Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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zinfamous

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fskimospy said:
Competitors say mean things about their competition - how is that any different than any other business? I'm saying no person I know has anything but positive things to say.

Like you didn't hear Coke whining about the Pepsi Challenge - business is for big boys. Also, thinking positively of SpaceX doesn't mean 'never say anything bad ever'. Musk and his fans really need to grow up and be able to handle criticism.
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Musk really seems to just be mad that all the critics and "stock manipulators" that have hurt Tesla so bad have actually made him the wealthiest man in the world.

Apparently, he wants to be the wealthierist person in the world.

Or something.
 
zinfamous

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Brovane said:
The criticism isn't the problem. It is the constant drumbeat of FUD, especially around Tesla.
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oh no! The FUD has made Tesla one of the top 3 wealthiest companies in the world, and Musk himself the wealthiest human. Oh no! All that very bad FUD! Tesla will surely fold now.
 
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MrSquished

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Brovane said:
When Twitter starts impacting Health Policy, then yes.

Twitter Isn't Real Life, but It Really Finds a Way To Affect Health Policy in the USA

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When Musk is starting to have as much power as he has with his wealth and the bully pulpit it has given him, then he should be reigned in as well then.

Musk cultists are never consistent
 
Brovane

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zinfamous said:
oh no! The FUD has made Tesla one of the top 3 wealthiest companies in the world, and Musk himself the wealthiest human. Oh no! All that very bad FUD! Tesla will surely fold now.
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If the FUD is delaying the transition to cleaner and greener energy, then it should be called out for what it is.

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Brovane

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MrSquished said:
When Musk is starting to have as much power as he has with his wealth and the bully pulpit it has given him, then he should be reigned in as well then.

Musk cultists are never consistent
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From the TED talk yesterday.

Elon Musk:

But just in general, like I said, it won't be perfect, but I think we want it to really have the perception and reality that speech is as free as reasonably possible. And a good sign as to whether there is free speech is is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like. And if that is the case, then we have free speech. And it's damn annoying when someone you don't like says something you don't like. That is a sign of a healthy, functioning free speech situation.
 
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fskimospy

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Brovane said:
When Twitter starts impacting Health Policy, then yes.

Twitter Isn't Real Life, but It Really Finds a Way To Affect Health Policy in the USA

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You want to overthrow the constitution and the bill of rights because someone said something dumb on Twitter?
 
cytg111

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woolfe9998 said:
If he thinks he needs to buy the company to restore twitter as a "marketplace of ideas" then he's an idiot for not seeing the decline in our society which has been caused by social media. Or he just doesn't care and is doing this solely to call attention to himself. Either way, I don't much care. If he turns twitter into a cesspool, worse than it already is, everyone legit will just go somewhere else.
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I 100% agree. If he succeeds at this its gonna blow up in his face… but more importantly it might blow up in ours…. I can just see it, Musk blowing up democracy 2024, Musk going to Mars 2026. Not my problem.
What the fuck dude.
I am a fucking Elon fan, this shit dont come easy to me.
 
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fskimospy

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Brovane said:
From the TED talk yesterday.

Elon Musk:

But just in general, like I said, it won't be perfect, but I think we want it to really have the perception and reality that speech is as free as reasonably possible. And a good sign as to whether there is free speech is is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like. And if that is the case, then we have free speech. And it's damn annoying when someone you don't like says something you don't like. That is a sign of a healthy, functioning free speech situation.
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Looks like Elon Musk should listen to his own Ted Talk, haha.

www.businessinsider.com

Despite calling himself a 'free speech absolutist,' Elon Musk has a history of retaliation against employees and critics

Tesla's chief executive, Elon Musk, calls himself a 'free speech absolutist' despite leveraging lawsuits and firings to silence employees and critics.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
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fskimospy

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Brovane said:
Let me know when you done with your strawman.
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You're explicitly advocating for Twitter to lose its first amendment rights.

To paraphrase someone I know you like, the real mark of someone who believes in civil liberties is when someone you don't like exercises them in a way you don't like.
 
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Exactly what is the point of twitter between the incessant narcissistic ramblings of self-important people and pornography?
 
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Brovane said:
The response was about "fairness". The entire vagueness of "broke community standards" with big-tech is getting a little old.
Your claim that there is unlimited "bars" is not valid when you are talking about Twitter.
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I don't remember saying any of what you quoted me, you must've quoted someone else and accidentally tagged me.
 
Brovane

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zinfamous said:
lololololol. If you think internet trolls saying mean things about Elon fucking Musk are what have been delaying this transition for the last 40+ years, then well...I mean. come on. You're not fucking serious.

lol.
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fskimospy said:
You're explicitly advocating for Twitter to lose its first amendment rights.

To paraphrase someone I know you like, the real mark of someone who believes in civil liberties is when someone you don't like exercises them in a way you don't like.
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I am advocating for some guide rails around big-tech because of the impact it has on society and it's reach.
 
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fskimospy said:
What guide rails do you propose that do not violate Twitter’s first amendment rights?
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Sounds reasonable to me.

So, yeah. Twitter has become kind of the de facto town square. So it's just really important that people have both the reality and the perception that they are able to speak freely within the bounds of the law. So one of the things that I believe Twitter should do is open source the algorithm and make any changes to people's tweets, if they're emphasized or de-emphasized, that action should be made apparent so anyone can see that action's been taken so there's no behind the scenes manipulation, either algorithmically or manually.
 
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fskimospy

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Brovane said:
Sounds reasonable to me.

So, yeah. Twitter has become kind of the de facto town square. So it's just really important that people have both the reality and the perception that they are able to speak freely within the bounds of the law. So one of the things that I believe Twitter should do is open source the algorithm and make any changes to people's tweets, if they're emphasized or de-emphasized, that action should be made apparent so anyone can see that action's been taken so there's no behind the scenes manipulation, either algorithmically or manually.
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You want the government to force twitter to expose its proprietary algorithms to the public?

Sorry, unconstitutional and potentially deadly to their business.
 
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fskimospy

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Brovane said:
We can agree to disagree then.
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So to be clear you think the government should be able to force Tesla and SpaceX to open source any and all of their software?

Or is this another case where the constitution doesn't apply to Twitter for some made up reason?
 
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