Elon Musk believes the AI nightmare scenarios could be a reality

[smackababy]

The cheetah robots look kind of like cheetahs. I guess the point of having a bipedal human-like robot is that they'd be able to use all the weapons we've designed for human use.

What? All our weapons require a mounting system and a mechanism to operate the trigger. Not something bipedal.

The crux of kill bots is they would require a system capable of not only identifying targets, but the ability to adjust aim while firing.


AI killing us off wouldn't do it in a "send in the kill bots" manner. They would have to manipulate economies and infrastructure to create sever food shortages and such. And even then, it is going to be hard.

Plus, they would need electromagnet shielding of some type. I'm sure as soon as Skynet was active and uncontrollable by simply pulling the plug, an air burst nuke would shut it down pretty quickly.

 

[moonbogg]

I think the only way to avoid obsolescence is to become the AI ourselves. We have to evolve into our own successors instead of creating them separate and setting a runaway train in motion that we can't stop. The flesh and blood will be left behind, but we won't be.

 

[alkemyst]

Plus, they would need electromagnet shielding of some type. I'm sure as soon as Skynet was active and uncontrollable by simply pulling the plug, an air burst nuke would shut it down pretty quickly.

I am sure since even simple hardened phones are shielded, a military robot soldier would be.

For police needs, they'd just send in cheapo, suicide bots. Take out houses at a time with no regard for life lost.

Militia vs Military scenarios break down when the soldier is totally mechanical and doesn't have to worry about cover, can systematically update it's assailant's location within inches to the next bot/drone, and communicate even while under heavy fire and not miss a beat.

You can have a device capable of picking up a heat signature inside a fortified building and able to carry enough ordinance to deliver a headshot per second through armor.

 

[moonbogg]

I am sure since even simple hardened phones are shielded, a military robot soldier would be.

For police needs, they'd just send in cheapo, suicide bots. Take out houses at a time with no regard for life lost.

Militia vs Military scenarios break down when the soldier is totally mechanical and doesn't have to worry about cover, can systematically update it's assailant's location within inches to the next bot/drone, and communicate even while under heavy fire and not miss a beat.

You can have a device capable of picking up a heat signature inside a fortified building and able to carry enough ordinance to deliver a headshot per second through armor.

Yep. If we find ourselves trying to go to war with something like that, it would be worse than a joke. By the time you can raise your weapon, they have already dropped your entire squad. Perfect aim, every time. Trying to go to war with AI is literally like trying to do math in your head faster than a CPU from 50 years in the future could do.
People really don't get it, I'm convinced of that. They laugh and dismiss it, but we can't go there. If we end up there we are done.

 

[StarTech15]

What? All our weapons require a mounting system and a mechanism to operate the trigger. Not something bipedal.

The crux of kill bots is they would require a system capable of not only identifying targets, but the ability to adjust aim while firing.


AI killing us off wouldn't do it in a "send in the kill bots" manner. They would have to manipulate economies and infrastructure to create sever food shortages and such. And even then, it is going to be hard.

Plus, they would need electromagnet shielding of some type. I'm sure as soon as Skynet was active and uncontrollable by simply pulling the plug, an air burst nuke would shut it down pretty quickly.

Well that just went from 0 to 1000 fast.

 

[StarTech15]

What? All our weapons require a mounting system and a mechanism to operate the trigger. Not something bipedal.

In the robot as soldier scenario: I think the military would look at the insect world for models for their ground troop robots. Something like a spider that can slip through holes, walk on walls, stay low, jump. Imagine a big spider with a laser gun. End of discussion.

 

[moonbogg]

I'm not satisfied that you guys get it. I want to see you type, "OMG WERE GONNA DIE" ok so go ahead.

 

[StarTech15]

I'm not satisfied that you guys get it. I want to see you type, "OMG WERE GONNA DIE" ok so go ahead.

OMG WE'RE GONNA DIE! Not.

 

[alkemyst]

In the robot as soldier scenario: I think the military would look at the insect world for models for their ground troop robots. Something like a spider that can slip through holes, walk on walls, stay low, jump. Imagine a big spider with a laser gun. End of discussion.

Exactly...it probably won't be bipedal, it may not even walk.

While I doubt this would ever happen, I don't think the jewish people ever saw the holocaust coming either until it was too late. That said, a lot of idiots claim it never really happened or was highly exaggerated.

 

[moonbogg]

OMG WE'RE GONNA DIE! Not.

I'll take it.

Exactly...it probably won't be bipedal, it may not even walk.

While I doubt this would ever happen, I don't think the jewish people ever saw the holocaust coming either until it was too late. That said, a lot of idiots claim it never really happened or was highly exaggerated.

Well, if they don't think that one happened just wait until the AI does it's version on all of us. They won't be denying the fact that they just got shot between the eyes by an AI propelled laser dart from 5 miles away.

 

[StarTech15]

While I doubt this would ever happen, I don't think the jewish people ever saw the holocaust coming either until it was too late. That said, a lot of idiots claim it never really happened or was highly exaggerated.

Anyone who denies a cyborg holocaust will have to be pro-cyborg and, as a corollary, anti-human. Believe it or not, they already exist.

 

[alkemyst]

Anyone who denies a cyborg holocaust will have to be pro-cyborg and, as a corollary, anti-human. Believe it or not, they already exist.

They wouldn't use humans in this capacity as soldiers, it makes no sense except in niche situations.

 

[videogames101]

it's possible maybe eventually, but we have bigger problems at the moment so to Musk I say, "fvck off and go build my gigafactory"

 

[StarTech15]

They wouldn't use humans in this capacity as soldiers, it makes no sense except in niche situations.

I know. I meant that if there were a cyborg holocaust against humans, there might actually be humans who will side with the AI.

 

[lxskllr]

 

[alkemyst]

I know. I meant that if there were a cyborg holocaust against humans, there might actually be humans who will side with the AI.

There'd be people non-cyborg even that would side, spy, and help them.

 

[StarTech15]

There'd be people non-cyborg even that would side, spy, and help them.

Who knows. Maybe there will be a cult that worships AI.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

I love how intelligent these artificial intelligence conversations are. Almost as good as the god conversations.

 

[OverVolt]

The geth are retarded always pick the Quarians. Dat jiggly bum bum.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

I know. I meant that if there were a cyborg holocaust against humans, there might actually be humans who will side with the AI.

Why does everyone think AI will end up being a bunch of Hitlers?

 

[crashtech]

The fear and desire to kill will start with humans, then AI will learn from this and possibly respond in kind.

 

[Ruptga]

Why does everyone think AI will end up being a bunch of Hitlers?

 

[alkemyst]

Why does everyone think AI will end up being a bunch of Hitlers?

Because most people figure if AI got smart enough it would realize that humans for the most part are dead weight.

AI would not think emotionally.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

Because most people figure if AI got smart enough it would realize that humans for the most part are dead weight.

AI would not think emotionally.

We're dead weight only if we get in the way of whatever their greater goals are. The only way I could possibly see us doing that is if we willingly try to interfere (like if we launch an attack out of them against fear, which I unfortunately could see happening because people really are stupid).

But otherwise I cannot see AI just spawning with the logic that humans need to be eliminated. It's not like we'd be some sort of threat, but more just a nuisance like a fly or mosquito that just won't stop bugging you.

And if AI does not have emotion, they cannot possibly take "they created us to serve them" in the worst way possible.

 

[alkemyst]

We're dead weight only if we get in the way of whatever their greater goals are. The only way I could possibly see us doing that is if we willingly try to interfere (like if we launch an attack out of them against fear, which I unfortunately could see happening because people really are stupid).

But otherwise I cannot see AI just spawning with the logic that humans need to be eliminated. It's not like we'd be some sort of threat, but more just a nuisance like a fly or mosquito that just won't stop bugging you.

And if AI does not have emotion, they cannot possibly take "they created us to serve them" in the worst way possible.

Humans are the most wasteful and destroying species on the planet. Think about that.