I wasa just advised that if one wants to obtain visible abs that they should eliminate all dairy products from their diet in addition to the obligatory exercise healthier eating.Does this include even fat free cottage cheese?
Eliminating all dairy products
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that was quite a helpful response.
At any rate,I was told that the lactose bloats a person even if the rest of the diet is sound and low in calories. I can probably give up cheeses and pudding but coffee without any sort of milk? no more cottage cheege?
she says it cuts fat and that calcium can be obtained from other sources.She eats strictly green veggies,,chicken,turkey and fish,brown rice,water,she eats fruits but grapes and banana are no,no's
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Why are grapes and bananas no-nos? I bet her diet gets very boring (even if she pretends that it doesn't). Even if there is some link to lactose and bloating I will bet my life on the fact that it pales in comparison to more significant determinants of how fat one looks at. Cut calories & excercise more (Atkins aside). The rest is of lesser importance!
she exercises plenty and is preparing for the the New England's competition,trust me Brooks she's smoking buff.
grapes and bananas contain a lot of sugar which according to her trainers fuel the desire for more.
I dunno about you, but for me I not having a six pack is a fair price to pay for eating dairy.
<-- Dairy Fiend.
<-- Dairy Fiend.
She is right. Dairy products are generally high in fat and cholesterol and also cause bloating. Dairy is not the only source of calcium and in fact dairy based calcium intake has been shown to have no effect on fracture risk ie. it doesn't help prevent osteoporosis. It can also contribute to ovarian cancer and other diseases. There is absolutely no reason to include dairy in your diet.
GT1999
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I've been eating 1-2 bananas every day for the past month and went from 210 lbs to 205 along with gaining muscle mass... so I've really lost probably 10-15 lbs. Bananas aren't the best for ya because they do have sugar, but it's better than regular sugar. For someone like me who has little to no sugar intake other than fruits, it isn't bad for you. You do need SOME sugar (glucose), just not much at all.
My diet is:
Lots of water
No pop, period.
No caffeine
No milk, and only a very small amount of cheese. I drink enrinched soymilk instead
No red meat except for the occasional steak or sliced beef, but this is rare
Little to no greasy/fried food
Little to no bread/carbs
No desserts or candy
Lots of:
Turkey
Veggies
Soy
Whey protein drinks after working out, and sometimes in the morning
Multivitamin daily taken with orange juice so it is absorbed into your system
My diet is:
Lots of water
No pop, period.
No caffeine
No milk, and only a very small amount of cheese. I drink enrinched soymilk instead
No red meat except for the occasional steak or sliced beef, but this is rare
Little to no greasy/fried food
Little to no bread/carbs
No desserts or candy
Lots of:
Turkey
Veggies
Soy
Whey protein drinks after working out, and sometimes in the morning
Multivitamin daily taken with orange juice so it is absorbed into your system
I don't know anything about bodybuilding but I've tried to educate myself on diet.
Fat is necessary as the body can't produce some essential fatty acids.
The benefits of saturated fat:
The much-maligned saturated fats-which Americans are trying to avoid-are not the cause of our modern diseases. In fact, they play many important roles in the body chemistry:
Saturated fatty acids constitute at least 50% of the cell membranes. They are what gives our cells necessary stiffness and integrity.
They play a vital role in the health of our bones. For calcium to be effectively incorporated into the skeletal structure, at least 50% of the dietary fats should be saturated.
They lower Lp(a), a substance in the blood that indicates proneness to heart disease.39 They protect the liver from alcohol and other toxins, such as Tylenol.40
They enhance the immune system.
They are needed for the proper utilization of essential fatty acids. Elongated omega-3 fatty acids are better retained in the tissues when the diet is rich in saturated fats.
Saturated 18-carbon stearic acid and 16-carbon palmitic acid are the preferred foods for the heart, which is why the fat around the heart muscle is highly saturated. The heart draws on this reserve of fat in times of stress.
Short- and medium-chain saturated fatty acids have important antimicrobial properties. They protect us against harmful microorganisms in the digestive tract.
The scientific evidence, honestly evaluated, does not support the assertion that "artery-clogging" saturated fats cause heart disease. Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The rest is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated.
From
The Truth about Saturated Fat
I eat full fat products everyday including yogurt and cheese and I'm in the 95 percentile for body fat for my age. My HDL and trigycerides are excellent.
I don't see any reason to cut fat.
Fat is necessary as the body can't produce some essential fatty acids.
The benefits of saturated fat:
The much-maligned saturated fats-which Americans are trying to avoid-are not the cause of our modern diseases. In fact, they play many important roles in the body chemistry:
Saturated fatty acids constitute at least 50% of the cell membranes. They are what gives our cells necessary stiffness and integrity.
They play a vital role in the health of our bones. For calcium to be effectively incorporated into the skeletal structure, at least 50% of the dietary fats should be saturated.
They lower Lp(a), a substance in the blood that indicates proneness to heart disease.39 They protect the liver from alcohol and other toxins, such as Tylenol.40
They enhance the immune system.
They are needed for the proper utilization of essential fatty acids. Elongated omega-3 fatty acids are better retained in the tissues when the diet is rich in saturated fats.
Saturated 18-carbon stearic acid and 16-carbon palmitic acid are the preferred foods for the heart, which is why the fat around the heart muscle is highly saturated. The heart draws on this reserve of fat in times of stress.
Short- and medium-chain saturated fatty acids have important antimicrobial properties. They protect us against harmful microorganisms in the digestive tract.
The scientific evidence, honestly evaluated, does not support the assertion that "artery-clogging" saturated fats cause heart disease. Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The rest is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated.
From
The Truth about Saturated Fat
I eat full fat products everyday including yogurt and cheese and I'm in the 95 percentile for body fat for my age. My HDL and trigycerides are excellent.
I don't see any reason to cut fat.
vailr
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Nobody here is talking about the harmful hormones found in cow milk and dairy products.
http://www.notmilk.com
Also note: rice protein would seem to be a safer substitute than soy products.
http://www.notmilk.com
Also note: rice protein would seem to be a safer substitute than soy products.
I was under the assumption that the body doesn't really absorb fat. It's the sugars and excess carbohydrates that get stored as fat. That's why drinking a 6-pack of Coke and downing some Twinkies and Doritoes is bad.
Eat nothing but carrots heated to 350 degrees, frozen for 25.5 minutes, and then soaked in vinegar for 3 days.
Then, go into the forest, and take fresh axacedimolous leaves and chew on them for 4.3 minutes daily.
Don't take any vitamin B12, or Riboflavin from a source that is not aged at least 6.3 months. Eat only breast meat of chickens from one of the Mid Western states (Illinois preferred), and then drink a juice concoction of Papaya, West Indies coconut, and Mexican mangoes.
Hang upside down from a tree (eucalpytus preferred) for 8 minutes daily, swinging your body forward and to the side.
You should have abs of steel in 4.325 days. I think I should write a book.
Then, go into the forest, and take fresh axacedimolous leaves and chew on them for 4.3 minutes daily.
Don't take any vitamin B12, or Riboflavin from a source that is not aged at least 6.3 months. Eat only breast meat of chickens from one of the Mid Western states (Illinois preferred), and then drink a juice concoction of Papaya, West Indies coconut, and Mexican mangoes.
Hang upside down from a tree (eucalpytus preferred) for 8 minutes daily, swinging your body forward and to the side.
You should have abs of steel in 4.325 days. I think I should write a book.
vailr
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http://www.roex.com/healthyreads.htm
SOY! The Dangers of Soy! (links to various articles)
SOY! The Natural Dangers of Soy
SOY! Dangers of Isoflavins in Soy and Soy Based Foods
SOY! Attack of the Killer Bean: The Case Against Soy
SOY! Newest Research on Why You Should Avoid Soy: Cinderella's Dark Side
SOY! The Dangers of Soy! (links to various articles)
SOY! The Natural Dangers of Soy
SOY! Dangers of Isoflavins in Soy and Soy Based Foods
SOY! Attack of the Killer Bean: The Case Against Soy
SOY! Newest Research on Why You Should Avoid Soy: Cinderella's Dark Side
The notion that fat should be avoided at all costs appears to be based on junk science.
For those of you who don't eat fat, is it because you researched it yourself, or are you just taking others' word for it?
For those of you who don't eat fat, is it because you researched it yourself, or are you just taking others' word for it?
I'm fairly certain I've read that the calcium obtained from animal sources is treated differently by the body than any other type of calcium, and that dairy calcium is the best way to go. But yes, milk does tend to have sugar, and so that might be why your friend stays away from it...especially if she's getting ready for a show. At that point, she's most likely looking to take in somewhere around 700 calories a day, while still expending 2000-3000.
I personally drink two to three glasses of skim milk per day, and am at around 8% body fat with a visible six-pack. Milk has been a part of my diet for years, and I have yet to see any detrimental effects. Well, unless you're lactose intolerant, of course.
A diet for professional body-building is one thing. A diet for everyday living by the average person is something else entirely.
I personally drink two to three glasses of skim milk per day, and am at around 8% body fat with a visible six-pack. Milk has been a part of my diet for years, and I have yet to see any detrimental effects. Well, unless you're lactose intolerant, of course.
A diet for professional body-building is one thing. A diet for everyday living by the average person is something else entirely.
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