Elephants are set to go

[bshole]

I find it funny that bshole is trying to invent a derogatory word "warmist" to describe the people who agree with one of the largest scientific consensuses in the history of science. Next thing you know he'll be calling those who adhere to the heliocentric model as "helios" or people who believe in gravity as "heaviers".

I really regret the way I named this thread. I apologize for mixing the issues.

 

[Subyman]

Unless I'm mistaken, that's what's done.

Maybe some places, but not many. While I can understand the emotions involved in this and I absolutely hate poachers, I'm not quite in the arena that values the animal over a human's life. I couldn't fathom a situation where our park rangers would shot to kill someone, say, hunting fox out of season.

 

[zinfamous]

I really regret the way I named this thread. I apologize for mixing the issues.

hmm, fair enough...but it doesn't really address that comment.

btw, one can always edit titles...

 

[dank69]

I really regret the way I named this thread. I apologize for mixing the issues.

The edit button is just a click away.

 

[Franz316]

This type of "argument" always comes up, especially on the internet. Because issue A gets some attention, issue B must not be as important. In this case it is Polar Bears and Elephants. Both are in a precarious state and both need attention. Elephants and other large mammals are in more immediate danger because of their proximity to humans and they will go extinct unless something changes soon. That to me is so sad

One of the tragic ironies of capitalism is that as something becomes more rare, it becomes worth more to sell (when in reality it should be preserved and restored). That means there will always be someone willing to kill the last elephant, lion, tiger, etc.

 

[bshole]

hmm, fair enough...but it doesn't really address that comment.

btw, one can always edit titles...

Everybody knows that I have a serious bias on that issue. I don't want to engage the issue here because it is a serious distraction from the plight of elephants.

 

[thraashman]

Everybody knows that I have a serious bias on that issue. I don't want to engage the issue here because it is a serious distraction from the plight of elephants.

Very well then, you edited your title, I'll edit my comment to avoid the distraction from the topic as well.

 

[Cozarkian]

Very well then, you edited your title, I'll edit my comment to avoid the distraction from the topic as well.

Well now there is nothing left to discuss, as everybody seems to sympathize with the elephant's and agree that poachers are scum.

 

[Brian Stirling]

But God gave man dominion over the animals!

This calls for the greatest of prayer circles.

Yeah, the whole 'dominion over the planet' thing is likely to result in our extinction. I put the odds way north of 50:50.


Brian

 

[Brian Stirling]

What we need is an America dentist that wants to save the elephants by shooting them.


Brian

 

[trenchfoot]

Put a bounty on those poachers that is more than what the poachers would make by selling the ivory they kill for.

$50K/per dead or alive plus generous per diem seems to be a pretty good incentive to have some ex-navy SEALs/Spec Ops folks have a go at it.

 

[Jeff7]

Put a bounty on those poachers that is more than what the poachers would make by selling the ivory they kill for.

$50K/per dead or alive plus generous per diem seems to be a pretty good incentive to have some ex-navy SEALs/Spec Ops folks have a go at it.

I wonder what that would do to the $/lb of ivory though. :hmm:

Some people can be very stubborn about remaining stupid.

 

[SP33Demon]

I think we evolved wrong. We are not gonna make it for the long haul. Hopefully some other animal on some other planet did it right.

Cockroaches.

 

[sm625]

You will rant and rave over these sad things, but then you will go out and vote for Hillary, who made $165 billion in arms deals in exchange for $1 billion into her foundation. What do you think those people do with that $165 billion in arms? In africa, they poach, so they can get more money to buy more arms to increase their control even more. And they mow down anyone who opposes them.

 

[bshole]

You will rant and rave over these sad things, but then you will go out and vote for Hillary, who made $165 billion in arms deals in exchange for $1 billion into her foundation. What do you think those people do with that $165 billion in arms? In africa, they poach, so they can get more money to buy more arms to increase their control even more. And they mow down anyone who opposes them.

I dunno but I sure wish the US Government would publish the names of Americans found in possession of ivory. I would love that a lot.

 

[Sonikku]

People who are albino can have an equally worse time of it in Africa sadly.

 

[werepossum]

People who are albino can have an equally worse time of it in Africa sadly.

Yeah, but we can easily make more of those.

 

[bshole]

We are gonna lose the elephant.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/africa/kenya-ivory-burn/

It's an overpowering display of the sheer size of Africa's poaching crisis.
For the past week, several dozen men have circled a site in Nairobi National Park, unloading elephant tusks from shipping containers -- many of them so big it takes two men to carry one tusk -- and building them into towers of ivory up to 10 feet tall and 20 feet across.

It forms something like a graveyard for some of the world's iconic endangered species.

 

[raildogg]

Humans are a disease. A disease that has been spreading especially fast since the so-called Industrial revolution and then the information age. Humans have always been a destructive force but now, it's at a whole different level.

I might be wrong but I saw that there were lions roaming from India to the Middle East and beyond just over a hundred years ago. Now, outside of Africa, lions can ONLY be found in nature in a small part of India. Just a small example of the amount of damage humans have inflicted upon nature. Shameful.