Electrical Lines Going Across The Monitor

DasFox

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IF you look at my GameRig specs, you'll see I'm running a 19" NEC which happens to be a CRT. I still not have not been able to purchase a nice LCD since building this game rig, but soon will.

In the mean time I run the desktop at 1024x768, and have noticed I can game at 1600X1200. The other day, when playing Oblivion, with the latest drivers from XG, the XTreme-G 84.43.v2. I noticed some electrical lines running horizontal across the screen.

Here's screeshot actually of "My Computer" with the lines that display below the devices, and I put a circle around the right side where it is lighter in color to see. This is how I'd see this line, something light in color like this appearing.

http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen9xj.jpg

Just a very light color line like this is the best way I can show it and describe it. I know something like this tends to be with the monitor, or video cards, or even the power of the PSU.

With my PSU how can I check if it's putting out ok?

Well with the previous drivers I didn't notice this, so I just assumed the drivers and uninstalled them, but I still noticed this again with different drivers this time.

Then today trying to play America's Army, I noticed this happening a few times and then one big streak appearing across the screen. So I removed these drivers, then this time I installed the Nvidia Beta drivers 84.43, but I have not tried them out yet gaming.

What I wanted to know, running the desktop at 1024x768, then gaming at 1600x1200, might it strain the monitor and cause it to do this? And I should just game at 1024x768, same as the desktop settings?

THANKS
 

xtknight

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Are you sure they are not alignment lines on your CRT? These are used so that the aperture grille doesn't slip out of place. But there shouldn't be more than 2 of them or 3 at absolute maximum for that size of CRT.

Edit: never mind, I noticed you specified the exact model in your rig and it's a shadow mask monitor so it should not have these.

Hmm, what do you mean by 'one big streak'? Literally a blurred area going across your screen? Does it happen at 60 Hz refresh rate? I think the new drivers screwed with your refresh rate just a tad bit and aggravated something.
 

DasFox

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Actually I just played America's Army a little, I was getting a white flash across the bottom, but I noticed this seems to be the taskbar showing up very quickly in the game as it's playing.

I just bought this Saitek Eclipse keyboard:

http://www.saitekusa.com/USA/prod/eclipse.htm

I'm not sure if that's what's causing the flash. The keyboard has lighting on it is all, it needs no software to run, it's just USB.

But if it doesn't run on Software, the box must power the lights, so I'm wondering if this keyboard could be causing the issue, or like you said the refresh rate got mucked up.

If the refresh rate gets messed with like you said, doesn't uninstalling the drivers and putting something else put things back? I mean how would one fix this if, this is the issue?

I wonder if I should just reinstall Windows, then we know it's clean, that's for sure, but I'd hate to have to do this.

THANKS
 

TheRyuu

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As long as your are in monitor specs you can't possibly strain it. You overclockig at all? How are temps? I'm just thinking, it could be a hardware problem, like not enough cooling. The 7900GT Superclocks don't have cooling on the RAM, which might cause a problem, but I think thats rare.

Try the XG 84.22.v2 driver just for the hell of it (and it being the best driver out there right now and all ;))

And here's the proper way to uninstall and reinstall the drivers:
-Go into device manager and uninstall both video cards (since you have SLI)
-Reboot into safe mode and run Driver Cleaner Pro (and hit cancel to those annoying install driver things)
-Now, reboot again and get back to regular windows and install the XG 84.22.v2's (just use the regular driver install, none of that new tweakerizer stuff)
-Reboot, enable SLI and your done.
 

DasFox

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Ok wizboy11 I uninstalled the drivers in the device manager, booted into safe mode, ran the drive cleaner pro, then installed the 84.22.v2, so if I run a CRT on the desktop at 1024x768 and game at 1600x1200 this doesn't strain the monitor or have any negative effects on it?

THANKS

P.S. Off to test these drivers, brb. ;)
 

xtknight

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Anything higher bandwidth (resolution * refresh rate) will put more strain on any device, but 1600x1200 is within the spec of your monitor (MultiSync 97F) from 55~76 Hz according to the spec sheet. You should download the drivers (INF) for your monitor just to make sure the vertical/horizontal frequency ranges are known to Windows. Several sites for the driver here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=multisync+97f&btnG=Google+Search

MultiSync 97F spec sheet: http://www.necdisplay.com/products/ProductDetail.cfm?Product=199
 

DasFox

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I had the Default one with th NEC driver installed but it changed back after rebooting, so I'll try to install it again. Is it correct for two to appear with SLI?

By the way wizboy11 the 84.22.v2 drivers are working much better. You know I had them installed before, but at that time I swore the 84.25.v2 ones where working better, but still not to my likeing, so I dumped both of them for the 84.43 which turned out REAL crap, especially the XG ones with gave me a BSOD.

So at that point I was a bit dumbfounded as to what to try next. Glad you mentioned the 84.22.v2, I didn't think to give them a go again, but they are much better then the rest.

THANKS
 

TheRyuu

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Originally posted by: DasFox
I had the Default one with th NEC driver installed but it changed back after rebooting, so I'll try to install it again. Is it correct for two to appear with SLI?

By the way wizboy11 the 84.22.v2 drivers are working much better. You know I had them installed before, but at that time I swore the 84.25.v2 ones where working better, but still not to my likeing, so I dumped both of them for the 84.43 which turned out REAL crap, especially the XG ones with gave me a BSOD.

So at that point I was a bit dumbfounded as to what to try next. Glad you mentioned the 84.22.v2, I didn't think to give them a go again, but they are much better then the rest.

THANKS

I guess it's correct for two to appear with SLI. Never really looked.

BTW, I know a little about all the driver versions. XG 84.21.v2, and the XG 84.22.v2 are the 2 best drivers out right now in IQ and performance (with the 84.22.v2 being the elite of the elite ;))
 

DasFox

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Nice to know I'm using the elite of the elite, that SLI rig of mine deserves it, or so I'd like to think, LOL.

As far as those 84.43 they did, man those suck, gave me a BSOD.

ALOHA