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Originally posted by: Platypus
I'll probably get flamed for this..
I think Gibson as a company has really gone down the sh!tter from what it used to be. Gibson moved out of Kalamazoo, MI and down to Tennessee some time ago.. a lot of the Gibson staff didn't think this was a wise choice and decided to break off from Gibson and form their own company called Heritage Guitars. They bought the entire factory and every tool in it.. Lately (for some time actually) the quality control on their non-custom shop guitars is spotty at best. The same could be said for Fender as well but that's not the subject here. I've played Heritage guitars before.. for the price it BLOWS away most of the current Gibson stuff.. they're worth checking out albeit a tad more pricey than the one in your link. Also check out Tokai(if you can find one), Edwards, Burns.. they make really nice LP copies.
I wouldn't purchase a guitar online personally... back to my discussion earlier with quality control on most big name brand guitarmakers.. you should play it in person. In every batch there are cherries and lemons.. you NEVER know until you play it so make sure it fits you. Go into any guitar store and play two common current production non-custom shop Fenders or Gibsons... they will probably feel different. One will be noticeably better.
DaShen, tell us your price range, the style of music you want to play (you can list bands if you want) and what sort of amplifier you're going to be playing this through. A guitar is very important for your overall tone but nowadays, amplifiers are instruments of their own too and it should be a significant part of your budget. The best amps are ones that don't color the tone of your guitar and basically just intensify it. More often with really good guitarists, you can tell what kind of guitar it is before the amp they're using. It really depends on what your needs are. If you're just wanting to learn, spend more for the guitar so if you end up liking how you sound (and you will, once you play a really nice tube amp though.. it turns into an addiction.) buy a better amp down the road.
On a sad side-note, an extremely rare really mint condition amp I won on Ebay recently got destroyed by FedEx.. AFTER getting destroyed by UPS and sent back to him. I swear I have the worst luck ever. Let's just say, I felt my stomach turn when I opened the box... such a waste, such a waste
.. guess it's hard to understand the feeling right now. I'm not upset because of the loss of it.. but just to see something like that treated so poorly made me sick to my stomach. The tubes that were still in the amp (why didn't he remove them :roll: ) were literally hanging because the tube sockets they were in had become unsoldered during it's 'trip.' When I removed them, the pins on the tubes broke off or stayed inside the socket.... :|
Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Platypus
I'll probably get flamed for this..
I think Gibson as a company has really gone down the sh!tter from what it used to be. Gibson moved out of Kalamazoo, MI and down to Tennessee some time ago.. a lot of the Gibson staff didn't think this was a wise choice and decided to break off from Gibson and form their own company called Heritage Guitars. They bought the entire factory and every tool in it.. Lately (for some time actually) the quality control on their non-custom shop guitars is spotty at best. The same could be said for Fender as well but that's not the subject here. I've played Heritage guitars before.. for the price it BLOWS away most of the current Gibson stuff.. they're worth checking out albeit a tad more pricey than the one in your link. Also check out Tokai(if you can find one), Edwards, Burns.. they make really nice LP copies.
I wouldn't purchase a guitar online personally... back to my discussion earlier with quality control on most big name brand guitarmakers.. you should play it in person. In every batch there are cherries and lemons.. you NEVER know until you play it so make sure it fits you. Go into any guitar store and play two common current production non-custom shop Fenders or Gibsons... they will probably feel different. One will be noticeably better.
DaShen, tell us your price range, the style of music you want to play (you can list bands if you want) and what sort of amplifier you're going to be playing this through. A guitar is very important for your overall tone but nowadays, amplifiers are instruments of their own too and it should be a significant part of your budget. The best amps are ones that don't color the tone of your guitar and basically just intensify it. More often with really good guitarists, you can tell what kind of guitar it is before the amp they're using. It really depends on what your needs are. If you're just wanting to learn, spend more for the guitar so if you end up liking how you sound (and you will, once you play a really nice tube amp though.. it turns into an addiction.) buy a better amp down the road.
On a sad side-note, an extremely rare really mint condition amp I won on Ebay recently got destroyed by FedEx.. AFTER getting destroyed by UPS and sent back to him. I swear I have the worst luck ever. Let's just say, I felt my stomach turn when I opened the box... such a waste, such a waste
THAT SUCKS!!!! Amps are things of beauties. I am actually looking for a reasonably priced amp just to play around the house. If I play the guitar outside, I will just use a preamp and hook it up to the stage systems. No big deal.
I have heard many great things about Heritage Guitars, too. But I want the standard Les Paul shape and feel because I already have a Gibson Les Paul case. And yes, I totally agree with you about Gibsons. I don't know much about new Fenders though.
Plus I have a $300-400 "Banger" Yamaha Dreadnaught. A cheap Rogue Mando w/ a pickup that I am teaching myself to play too (I should have just invested in a F style Mando <oh well live and learn> ).
Link? I can't seem to find too much about this amp on teh intarweb. Do you mean the GX-212? If so, I'd say it's not bad for all of the digital effects you get. I'm not the biggest fan of solid state amplifiers, however.
Ok. Yeah, that is probably a pretty good amp for your purposes. I would advise checking the user reviews at www.harmony-central.com though. It's probably cheaper than a Line6 equivalent style amplifier, and the digital effects are probably almost identical.
Originally posted by: Vegitto
He has exactly the same guitar (only Phantom Black, IIRC), and we both agree that it beats the Gibson LP hands down. Just sounds better. We took it to a shop that sold Gibsons and using the exact same amp etc etc, even the shopkeep (who had played guitar for some 30 odd years and owned a lot of Fenders, Gibsons etc.) agreed that it sounded better than the Gibson.
If I were you, try one. Compare it to a real Gibson. You'll see
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