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I'm all for it, and if they do go mainstream with it, people will buy it, even at 60K... that price is probably wishful thinking, but either way. It's a good start to cleaning up the planet and if it takes off, other companies will follow with better innovations, how this sounds pretty sweet. It's expensive enough to get 600 HP out of the ole gass guzzeler.
Corporate Thug
Lifer
still ugly
Doctorweir
Golden Member
As soon as they build an electric Elise, I'm in the game... 😉
bunnyfubbles
Lifer
You have GOT to be kidding. Coal supply >>>>> Oil supply. The primary problem with coal is that it is by far the leading producer of CO2. Of course new technologies can help reduce that emission to next to nothing, however you are correct in the fact that it is not a renewable resource. However with some predicting we could be completely out of oil within our lifetime that is a much bigger concern than coal which we can happily burn and let our kids/grandkids worry about - of course I fully believe we'll have solved the renewable energy supply problem as well as the greenhouse gas emissions problem within our lifetime so keep your pants on.
Whoozyerdaddy
Lifer
I kind of figured that went without saying... 644HP in the OP and all... 😉
As for the price tag... It's a Lotus for crying out loud. Once Toyota and Honda co-opt the technology it'll cost the same as any other car.
And Sluggo... We have coal reserves for hundreds of years... Not to mention that we can make electricity from other sources. Wind, hydro, nuke, solar, etc... When Huyndai starts building one of these for $17,995 watch out.
neutralizer
Lifer
Wow not bad for just a 10 minute charge. If the average battery lasts 500 discharge cycles and you drain it fully, that's 175000 miles traveled in its lifetime. Not bad at all.
smack Down
Diamond Member
Alaskans, and anyone else outside of southern CA. Batteries lose alot of performance when cold.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
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america is the saudi arabia of coal you know. if we didn't care about carbon emissions we could really pig out on that kind of cheap energy.
as for ev's being around for over a hundred years yes but so what. they were total cr@p until recently. and compared to other tech batterys have improved at a very slow rate. 100-150 miles on a charge? many had even less than that, and with the older ones with lead acid batteries you had to replace those in just a few years. hell even new ones like the tesla have 20 thousand dollars worth of batteries just to push around something that light and small and specially built out of carbon fiber and aluminum. imagine how much batteries you would have to use to push around a real car or truck!
and range, look at a prius, almost 600 miles on a tank, until batteries improve big time thats the way to go, serial or parralel hybrids.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
CO2 isn't a "by-product" or something that you're going to be able to simply remove...
Coal is carbon. When you burn it, you're reacting it with oxygen. The product is CO2. That'd be like claiming you can use technology to eliminate water emissions when ice melts.
PlatinumGold
Lifer
that might be true but that's not what i read in the article.
plus in the other article with the mini, it gets like 200 miles on battery alone and 1000 miles when the gas engine is used to power the generator.
interchange
Diamond Member
We don't have coal reserves for hundreds of years. But you are right about other sources. Most promising is offshore wind which has the potential to completely cheaply and cleanly displace all other forms of electricity generation. The biggest obstacle is carbon fibre production for the extremely massive blades. Doubt we'd ever build any more nuclear plants, and enough solar panels to make an impact would be hugely expensive at current costs. Other fuels, e.g. hydrogen, natural gas, are horrible bets because they are low density gasses and would need to be heavily compressed to be portable, and this aint exactly easy...plus you'd have to burn lots of electricity to produce the hydrogen in the first place. The mid-term future probably sees electric plug-in cars with some sort of fuel backup system. Goods transport vehicles will probably be deisel hybrids. This sector is the most critical step in transitioning away from oil, and they will probably continue to run on it for a good long time.
Regarding the SUV...It's a lightweight aluminum construction. This is why the car is so relatively efficient. However, it would not be anywhere near as cheap and probably not as safe as your typical vehicle out there. It definitely wouldn't house all the amenities of a lexus, for example. Maybe this is a step forward, but I see no new technologies being boasted here that would be appliccable to a major car manufacturer.
MercenaryForHire
Lifer
HERETIC
Re: Electric vs Ferrari vs Porsche - I'll take the Ariel Atom 2 S/C personally, as it probably costs about half of the X1's price and doesn't need any fancy charging station. Furthermore, the Ferrari and the Porsche have the distinct advantages of 1. not being ugly, and 2. can be driven in weather other than "warm, dry, and bug-free" 😛
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kevinthenerd
Platinum Member
That's an Ariel Atom chassis.
kevinthenerd
Platinum Member
You might be thinking of the Ariel Atom, developed by Ariel in the UK and produced by Brammo motorsports in the US. It's powered by an ECOTEC 4-banger in the states and by a Civic Type R motor elsewhere.
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