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Electoral vote site updated.

umbrella39

umbrella39

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Like this site matters or not in the big scheme of things but the right uses it to show when Bush is doing well so I guess the left can use it to show: the polls don't mean shite. It will be very close regardess of the fanbois on both sides that say their guy has this wrapped up.

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Edit: Reading the page further down it will be updated again tomorrow with Mason-Dixon and Gallop numbers. Expect Bush to be above 300 again when they are posted. A lot of Zogby battleground state updates today, hench the closing of the gap.
 
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Like this site matters or not in the big scheme of things but the right uses it to show when Bush is doing well so I guess the left can use it to show: the polls don't mean shite. It will be very close regardess of the fanbois on both sides that say their guy has this wrapped up.

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Ofcourse they used Zogby's numbers instead of Gallup's - atleast in Iowa. Gallup's poll out today shows Bush with a 6 point lead in Iowa. Look at which states changed from yesterday and you'll see what I mean - so it's all about which polls they use for which states.

CsG
 
That's why I added the disclaimer to the first post. Zogby seems to favor Kerry number and Gallop Bush. So it stands to reason why the gap closed today. I predict after the Gallop number Bush to be close to 3 bills again.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
zogby...i dunno about them. Internet polling just isn't there yet IMO.
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Wow, once again pure ignorance from ntdz. Zogby was the only pollster to get the 2000 election right, and he's the one pollster EVERYONE is paying attention to. Of course you'd know this, if you had any sort of idea what you were talking about.
 
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: ntdz
zogby...i dunno about them. Internet polling just isn't there yet IMO.
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Wow, once again pure ignorance from ntdz. Zogby was the only pollster to get the 2000 election right, and he's the one pollster EVERYONE is paying attention to. Of course you'd know this, if you had any sort of idea what you were talking about.
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then can u tell me why zogby differs from EVERY OTHER POLL RELEASED IN THE LAST 3 WEEKS? Are you saying zogby is right and all the others are wrong? Zogby just got lucky on the last poll of the election and got the right margins.
 
Sheesh, let' make an effort to be kind to one another. Let's just rag on the polls being unreliable at best and leave the personal flames to the "meat and potato" threads 😉
 
I'm gonna wait until after the debates before I jump to any conclusions. If anything, these polls are showing that there are a large number of swing voters that still have yet to settle on either candidate.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: ntdz
zogby...i dunno about them. Internet polling just isn't there yet IMO.
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Wow, once again pure ignorance from ntdz. Zogby was the only pollster to get the 2000 election right, and he's the one pollster EVERYONE is paying attention to. Of course you'd know this, if you had any sort of idea what you were talking about.
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then can u tell me why zogby differs from EVERY OTHER POLL RELEASED IN THE LAST 3 WEEKS? Are you saying zogby is right and all the others are wrong? Zogby just got lucky on the last poll of the election and got the right margins.
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did you read the comment you yourself quoted?

He said that Zogby was the only one to predict 2000 correctly. So how is it inconcievable that they could be right again...
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Cool, now it has neither one winning getting to 270.
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That might be our best hope: maybe Congress will set it straight and pick someone else.

Also, the Nader factor has to be accounted for. In 2000, Nader polled 5% just before the election but got 2.7% of the vote.
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I think this illustrates a good point about polls - the biggest problem is that the people who are willing to take polls are likely the most die-hard supporters of their candidate. The average Joe doesn't waste the time.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Ferocious
projected final map
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lets see how democrats try to spin this...
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Well I'm not a Dem but here goes . . . Last time I checked the word "barely" was not synonymous with "likely", "certainly", or "hell yeah."

Accordingly, "strong" and arguably "weak" states could be considered very reasonable guesses but "barely" is not something I would hang my hat on. Bush loses 99EV on barely. Kerry loses 4EV. If you count the 54 "tied" then 157EV could be going to the candidate that's the best closer. Considering much of the Bush surplus comes from NJ. FL, WI, and PA . . . only a fool would count those for either candidate. Then again it is just a guess . . .

 
Anything can happen between now and election time to influence voters. Should Kerry succeed in portraying this adminsitration as one that has made wrong choices in Iraq, the economy, elsewhere he could easily win. Should Bush continue to succeed in showing Kerry as indecisive and not strong on terror, he will win. This election right now is pretty much entirely dependent upon outside events beyond the control of either candidate.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Ferocious
projected final map
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lets see how democrats try to spin this...
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Oh come on ntdz, what spin needs to be put on a projection from a poll site. The reason I brought it up was to show how silly they are. Now we are supposed to give creedence to a projection from a poll site?

One that has NY as a toss up to boot? For the love of God.
 
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