Electoral Count (Bush 254 Kerry 242) (Ohio to Bush?)

[Kelemvor]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Kanalua
Democratic Underground is going nuts!

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Whahahahaha....look at this idiot:

ONE MORE TIME: STOLEN AGAIN -- HERE ARE FACTS -- USE THEM!


I tried earlier, and no one wanted to believe it. Maybe now you do? *THE FIX IS IN.*

If we're afraid to call it as is, there's no chance we'll ever see democracy or a Democrat elected in this country every again. PLEASE WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES.

Here are some facts:

(1) All exit polls had Kerry ahead in in FL and OH.

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Ideas? Drop me a line.

He forgot about them injecting alien DNA at night so the Republicans can mind control us into voting for them

:roll:

When I voted, they had a recording playing over and over that said "Vote for Bush" in really soft words. I could hardly make it out as my hand seemed to move on its own as I voted for Bush.

Was really weird.

 

[apunahus]

"He forgot about them injecting alien DNA at night so the Republicans can mind control us into voting for them "

his point is that no one he knows would ever be so naive to vote for bush. where did all the votes come from? -- the cathlolic farmers who actually believe bush is an honest man... what i don't get is why they would vote for a man who has done nothing for them and has no plan to help them at all! if you are poor or a minority, why would you vote for bush? why wouldnt you rush out and make sure to secure your children's future? and that andrew card... what a turd

 

[oaaltone]

Kerry just called Bush to concede, according to the AP.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Kanalua
Democratic Underground is going nuts!

PResidential Discussion page

Whahahahaha....look at this idiot:

ONE MORE TIME: STOLEN AGAIN -- HERE ARE FACTS -- USE THEM!


I tried earlier, and no one wanted to believe it. Maybe now you do? *THE FIX IS IN.*

If we're afraid to call it as is, there's no chance we'll ever see democracy or a Democrat elected in this country every again. PLEASE WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES.

Here are some facts:

(1) All exit polls had Kerry ahead in in FL and OH.

(2) All Democrats were completely confident, based (I'm sure) on internal polls. Kennedy said Kerry won. He was sure. So was the DNC chair, who referred to Kerry as president-elect.

(3) Canadian TV (CTV) said it will be an early landslide (their word) for Kerry. They had inside information.

(4) Exit polls have always been correct -- until they pulled FLorida away from Gore, and Bush took power by force. Since then no exit poll has ever been any good. Coincidence?

(5) In the midterm elections, the VERY SAME thing happened as tonight. Polls nationwide favored Democrats, and then the GOP won every state -- and the exit polls vanished!!! Pollsters had never been so wrong. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME MACHINES WERE USED.

(6) We all know who owns the Diabold (Diabolical) voting machines. And it ain't the Democrats.

(5) Every historical predictor pointed to a Kerry victory: the large turnout, Bush's approval ratings, the economy, and the fact that he consistently polled under 50 or even 48%. No president had ever won with such low numbers.

And then magically everything reversed itself and Bush wins. Do you guys believe this is for real?

I don't know what we can do. But at the very least I suggest:

-- Write letters to every paper and every person you know, outlining the facts above (plus everything you can add about the electronic voting machines -- lots of info out there).

-- Write Kennedy and others who KNOW Kerry had the real vote. We need them to come forward and speak out.

-- We need strategy. We can't just go and protest and be angry. It will look like we can't accept defeat. We need to get our facts and target our message. Or else forget about this country.

Ideas? Drop me a line.

He forgot about them injecting alien DNA at night so the Republicans can mind control us into voting for them

:roll:

Why does the real world never reflect the media? Hmm the communists, I'm sorry the liberals have the media eating from their hands, so it will of course be biased.

Or it could be as simple as the democrats always get hyped and push so hard out of desperation that you here of nothing else, while republicans keep their mouth shut and let the numbers do the talking.

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: apunahus
this isn't over. bush did the same damn thing 4 years ago... jumped the gun and then forced gore to concede on the grounds of it being "fair".. F-that. fair is counting every vote. whats the damned rush? why does everyone wanna get this over with? bush is still president til jan1, why not take the proper time to make sure everything is confirmed? i'm overseas. i'm just happy i'm here rather than serving in iraq. i'm ashamed that so many people voted for bush. i'm ashamed to be an american right now and i'm serving for america! take the time and count the votes that people made.

First off...there are 135000 votes kerry would have to make up and these votes would have to be verifed. Provisional ballots are not the same as regular ballots and leave open room for fraud since the voter wasn't registered and didn't have any id or proof of eligibility....

remember the democrats worked hard in ohio to create voter fraud

Most of the provisional ballots in Ohio were cast as a remedy to the 7 hour lines, or when they had equipment failures & crap. And these long lines of course build up in the major cities which are heavily democratic. (Look at cuyahoga where cleveland is, 67% voted for Kerry).

And if anyone has worked hard to create voter fraud, it's the GOP.

 

[seawolf21]

Originally posted by: apunahus
this isn't over. bush did the same damn thing 4 years ago... jumped the gun and then forced gore to concede on the grounds of it being "fair".. F-that. fair is counting every vote. whats the damned rush? why does everyone wanna get this over with? bush is still president til jan1, why not take the proper time to make sure everything is confirmed? i'm overseas. i'm just happy i'm here rather than serving in iraq. i'm ashamed that so many people voted for bush. i'm ashamed to be an american right now and i'm serving for america! take the time and count the votes that people made.

Whether Kerry should conceded depends on where those ballots are. But even if they are from democratic areas, the chances for victory are slim at best.

2,794,346 BUSH
2,658,125 KERRY

Difference is 136,221

if there are only 175,000 provisional ballots, Kerry needs 88.9% to tie.

If there are 250,000 ballots, he needs 77.2% to tie.

 

[exdeath]

Four more years of capitolism, realistic economic policies, and beating the unholy crap out of those who wish to kill us.

Now Bush, take off the gloves and finish up bussiness or face humiliation.

Iraq would have been on the bottom of my long list.


Edit: economic policies, well, except for the stupid steel tariff... still a far cry from all out socialism.
Take what you can get I guess.

 

[Finalnight]

I was a big Kerry supporter, but I am not mad at all that Bush got reelected. I hope now that everyone comes together to get things done in this country. Good Luck President!

PS, Some people here (on both sides of the aisle) live in a different reality than most Americans do and need to take a hard look at their extremist ways.

 

[edmundoab]

well lets just say , many people didn't vote and they have complained about the outcome of the election.
Looks like I'm all set to leave the country next year. sigh..

Only DC did justice to the voting.

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: edmundoab
well lets just say , many people didn't vote and they have complained about the outcome of the election.
Looks like I'm all set to leave the country next year. sigh..

Only DC did justice to the voting.

You call voting a crack-head back in office justice?

 

[Carazariah]

Originally posted by: Finalnight
I was a big Kerry supporter, but I am not mad at all that Bush got reelected. I hope now that everyone comes together to get things done in this country. Good Luck President!

PS, Some people here (on both sides of the aisle) live in a different reality than most Americans do and need to take a hard look at their extremist ways.

Agreed, you can't govern from the extreme left or campaign from there. Take you cues from Clinton on Campaigning and Governing and Democrats will rule again some day. . .

Currently you can campaing from a Center Right in America, this may not always be the case but it has been for 2000 - 2004.

I predict in four years all Democrats will be estatic Kerry lost as Dem's nominate a NY Senator and pundents and the networks go crazy predicting a blow out victory. . .

C

 

[SilentZero]

Originally posted by: SilentZero
Hopefully there is still hope for Kerry, cause the way it looks now this countrys future is going in the toilet. So unfortunate.

Well no offense to the majority, but they all have their head up their asses.

 

[edmundoab]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420

Originally posted by: edmundoab
well lets just say , many people didn't vote and they have complained about the outcome of the election.
Looks like I'm all set to leave the country next year. sigh..

Only DC did justice to the voting.

You call voting a crack-head back in office justice?

LOL, it was an extreme result, so I thought I mentioned that in sarcasm

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: SilentZero
Hopefully there is still hope for Kerry, cause the way it looks now this countrys future is going in the toilet. So unfortunate.

Well no offense to the majority, but they all have their head up their asses.

I carry on the best converstaions with myself also.

 

[bigj3347]

Originally posted by: CrowBarr
So now it's "classy" to concede?

That's not the America I grew up in...stick to your guns...stand up for what you believe in. Fight for it if necessary. If concession is classy, then all cowards are classy, in my book.

"Gee, Your Honor...I know that I didn't commit this crime, but when I look at the overwhelming preponderance of circumstancial evidence you have against me, I guess I should just plead guilty."

As if.

The chances of Kerry ever coming back in ohio were basically none, creating a legal battle and more split in the American public is in no one's best interest. I think if was a classy move to concede when it became apparent he had not chance.

 

[bigj3347]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: RobCur
electronic voting = rigged election... too easily, almost like child's play.
searching for bush sucks turns up 1.6million results on yahoo while kerry is only 663k
The obvious is that most aren't for bush 2nd term, something is very fishy here.
It's not a fair game here, never has, never been just like in 2k. Things are hopeless, while we're at it, I may as well dig my self a hole and fall in it. we're in for 4 more years of painful event... The end of the world.

I've read this three times and I'm still not sure what it said.

He's assuming, falsely I might add, that the internet is a reflection of the real world and the opinion of people on the internet should mirror that of the real world. Delusions like this are what lost Kerry the election.

Edit: Actually, delusions like the above is what prompted the early glee and a prediction of a Kerry blowout of Bush.

agreed, plus kerry's been hiding in his massachusetts liberal stronghold, until the last year. The amount scrutiny the presidency is under is way more than that of a senator.

 

[tooltime]

bush won the popular vote, he won