Electoral Count (Bush 254 Kerry 242) (Ohio to Bush?)

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CPA

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Originally posted by: Aegeon
Originally posted by: Mill
This is positively silly. Bush clearly has Florida locked up regardless of absentees. My brother lives in Osceola and has said that Orange and Osceola typically go Dem, but that Orange was close and Bush was leading in Osceola. I'm looking at county by county results and it is obvious Bush has it down there. Why can't the networks stop being scared? Ohio is a tad closer, but I'm pretty sure Bush has won there as well.
You're being very presumtive with regards to Ohio. The key is the exit polls don't resemble the current results with Ohio, and the discrepancy is substancial. This means the results for the remaining locations may change things substancially. Its also worth noting Democratic strength is focuessed on certain urban areas.

Edit: Where the voting is still going on in Ohio may really affect things. I suspect results from those locations don't start to get reported until after voting ends.

Fox News was just analyzing Ohio and said that many of the Hamilton County precints (heavily Republican) have not reported yet.
 

going5hole

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Originally posted by: Shuxclams
Originally posted by: Aegeon
Originally posted by: Mill
This is positively silly. Bush clearly has Florida locked up regardless of absentees. My brother lives in Osceola and has said that Orange and Osceola typically go Dem, but that Orange was close and Bush was leading in Osceola. I'm looking at county by county results and it is obvious Bush has it down there. Why can't the networks stop being scared? Ohio is a tad closer, but I'm pretty sure Bush has won there as well.
You're being very presumtive with regards to Ohio. The key is the exit polls don't resemble the current results with Ohio, and the discrepancy is substancial. This means the results for the remaining locations may change things substancially. Its also worth noting Democratic strength is focuessed on certain urban areas.

Edit: Where the voting is still going on in Ohio may really affect things. I suspect results from those locations don't start to get reported until after voting ends.



Exit polls showed that Kerry should have won FL by 2%.... He lost by 5% (7% swing) Makes no sense.









SHUX

That's where you get the difference between a poll and people actually going to vote.

 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Aegeon
Originally posted by: Mill
This is positively silly. Bush clearly has Florida locked up regardless of absentees. My brother lives in Osceola and has said that Orange and Osceola typically go Dem, but that Orange was close and Bush was leading in Osceola. I'm looking at county by county results and it is obvious Bush has it down there. Why can't the networks stop being scared? Ohio is a tad closer, but I'm pretty sure Bush has won there as well.
You're being very presumtive with regards to Ohio. The key is the exit polls don't resemble the current results with Ohio, and the discrepancy is substancial. This means the results for the remaining locations may change things substancially. Its also worth noting Democratic strength is focuessed on certain urban areas.

Edit: Where the voting is still going on in Ohio may really affect things. I suspect results from those locations don't start to get reported until after voting ends.

I couldn't disagree more. Exit polls have been proven time and time again to be worthless! Finally, if we were playing to TIE I could see your point, but we are playing to win. That means the margin coming from those counties would have to be very heavy Kerry. We are talking very high %'s just to TIE it.
 

seawolf21

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Originally posted by: CPA
So, if Bush takes Fl (likely), OH (likely), Colorado and NM, that will put him at 271, right?

Bush does not need NM. He just needs FL and OH. FL is a sure thing.
 

Zebo

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Topic: Bush rebounding in polls Posted: 06/18/2004 04:52 PM Subject: RE: Bush rebounding in polls

I told you guys to stop paying attention to these polls. Bush will win. Never has a war sitting president lost and senators always loose cause of all thier baggage. And kerry about a likable as in grown hair.

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Aegeon

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Originally posted by: Mill
I couldn't disagree more. Exit polls have been proven time and time again to be worthless!
You can wish what you want. At this point its unlikely to change the ultimate results. I feel still pretty confident about the situation.
 

Shuxclams

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NM - Bernalillo County 44% counted Kerry bringing in 53% in most populated area.... close?














SHUX
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
I'm only following this online but neither Yahoo nor CNN have called FL for Bush yet.

Yahoo is basing their predictions off the major networks, they aren't even running their own analysis.

They've been running a little behind all night long.

Viper GTS
 

NewSc2

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Originally posted by: going5hole
Originally posted by: Shuxclams
Originally posted by: Aegeon
Originally posted by: Mill
This is positively silly. Bush clearly has Florida locked up regardless of absentees. My brother lives in Osceola and has said that Orange and Osceola typically go Dem, but that Orange was close and Bush was leading in Osceola. I'm looking at county by county results and it is obvious Bush has it down there. Why can't the networks stop being scared? Ohio is a tad closer, but I'm pretty sure Bush has won there as well.
You're being very presumtive with regards to Ohio. The key is the exit polls don't resemble the current results with Ohio, and the discrepancy is substancial. This means the results for the remaining locations may change things substancially. Its also worth noting Democratic strength is focuessed on certain urban areas.

Edit: Where the voting is still going on in Ohio may really affect things. I suspect results from those locations don't start to get reported until after voting ends.



Exit polls showed that Kerry should have won FL by 2%.... He lost by 5% (7% swing) Makes no sense.









SHUX

That's where you get the difference between a poll and people actually going to vote.

Exit polls are taken from voters?
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
I'm only following this online but neither Yahoo nor CNN have called FL for Bush yet.

Yeah, 97% precincts in and Bush leads 52 to 47.
 

Tylanner

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The changes in the EC have given Bush 7 free EV's (271-278 same states(2000))

These changes could be quite important.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: seawolf21
Originally posted by: CPA
So, if Bush takes Fl (likely), OH (likely), Colorado and NM, that will put him at 271, right?

Bush does not need NM. He just needs FL and OH. FL is a sure thing.

If he doesn't get NM and everything stands he will be at 266 and lose.
 

Raincity

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Its too early in Nevada to tell. The four percent difference is based on vote early count that represents 40% of the registered voters in NV.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Aegeon
Originally posted by: Mill
I couldn't disagree more. Exit polls have been proven time and time again to be worthless!
You can wish what you want. At this point its unlikely to change the ultimate results. I feel still pretty confident about the situation.

Dude, let's not play partisan politics -- that's not me. I am TELLING you that it is a FACT that exit polls are historically INACCURATE. That's not what I'm wishing. This is not my opinion or based on some type of partisan belief. It is fact.