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Election truisms, things that are almost certain to happen today

ProfJohn

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Best thing about this list is Wednesday we can look at it and see how right or wrong I am.

1. The media will find at least one polling place in a poor minority community with overly long lines and this will be used to make the chase for ?voter disenfranchisement? meanwhile hundreds of polling places in white surbubran areas will suffer the same problems and it will be ignored.
2. Any expected Republican loss that turns into a Republican victory will be seen as an ?unexpected victory? but any Democrat who pulls an upset will be heralded as a ?great victory?
3. If the Democrats take the house the USA Today will run the headline ?America Votes for a Change? whereas in 1994 they ran the headline "ANGRY WHITE MEN: Their votes turn the tide for GOP."
4. We will not know the results of Tom Delay?s old district until Wednesday due to the large number of write in votes.
5. A Lincoln Chafee victory in Rhode Island will be downplayed despite the fact that he was down 10 points in the polls only a week ago.
6. The Missouri Senate race is the one most likely to spur recounts and other charges. This is the state where one judge ordered inner city polls kept open late while another judge ordered them closed. Of all the races this one could end up being the ugliest.
7. A Democrat victory will be cast as a vote against the war, despite the fact that the anti-war candidate himself, Lamont, will lose by 10+ points.
8. Some Democrat will claim a Democrat mandate no more how small their victory.
9. The cries of impeachment will start the second Democrats are projected to take control of the house.
10. Any glitch in computerized voting systems will be seen as proof of attempts to ?steal? the election.
11. Watch the east coast Senate races, Republican victories in VA, MD and RI will mean that Democrats will be lucky to win the house. However, Democrat victories in those 3 races would point to a 30 or so seat victory for Democrats.
12. The expectations game favors Republicans. Any thing less than a Democrat take over of congress would be HUGE victory for Republicans. While Democrats have to win 30+ seats just to meet ?historical? averages for 6 year elections. Despite this, a 1 seat majority for Democrats will be called a ?great victory? by someone.
13. Cultural issues, gay marriage in VA and stem cell in MO, could help Republicans to victory in both states.
14. Which ever party does not have control of the house will most likely turn to an outside of DC candidate in 08. Especially if the Democrats can not gain control.
15. I will be making a lot less posts after the election. Good news for you Democrats, no mater who wins.
16. The number of post election lawsuits and claims of irregularity will be inversely proportional to the number of Democratic victories.
17. A victory by a black Republican (Steele) will be ignored while a loss by a black Democrat (Ford) will be seen as proof that racisms is still a major problem in American.
18. A huge Democrat victory will result in Rumseld leaving, but a Republican victory will not.

Personally, I see the Democrats picking up 3 or 4 seats in the Senate. OH and PA are done deals, but the others are toss-ups, AND a victory by Steele could result in only a 1 seat pick up. Watch for Santorum to get a job in the administration if he losses.

The house is much tougher. 13 Republican seats are listed at ?lean Democrat? and another 14 are toss-ups. Only two Democrat seats are toss-ups. Democrats should win at least 10 of the leaners and half the toss-ups. Leaving them with a 20 seat pick up, with 25 being the most. Republicans could hold the house, but that would requite an amazing turnout effort.
If the turn out numbers in Republican districts looks high in early returns then it should be a good sign for them keeping the house. But if the numbers are low then Pelosi can start picking out her curtains.

Let?s hope we have a ?clean? election. And do not see a bunch of law suits and claims of election stealing etc.
 
Rolling out the sour grapes/justifications already, PJ? I should feign surprise, at least.

On a semi-related point, I find it hilarious that the Bushite/neocons are touting Lincoln Chafee. This is a guy who voted against the war in Iraq, publically stated-BEFORE the 2004 election and while serving office as a GOP senator-that he would vote AGAINST Bush in the 2004 presidential election, is personally well-beloved and comes from Rhode Island's dominant political family. Most people feel there is little difference on policy matters between Chafee and his opponent. The only reason he is in trouble at all is a backlash against the GOP party-if Chafee loses, the country has a better chance of a Democratic majority in the Senate, with the result the Democratic Party has control over the committee chairmanships and agenda.

It's extremely sad that quality office holders like Chafee are at risk solely because of the ill-advised and incompetent policies of our President, and says volumes about the extent of real discontent with the way the GOP has been running Congress.

In my state there are five Congressional districts, presently two held by the Dems and three held by the GOP. All three of the GOP races are tossups/leaning Dem, while it is univerisally concluded that the currently held Dem seats are inviolate. This is despite having a popular GOP governor who is expected to beat her rival by a 2:1 landslide, and the Lieberman factor (probably drawing 80%+ of the GOP vote and marching with GOP Congress members in local parades).
 
Funny how you speak of a clean election. Virginia voters are getting pre-recorded calls to their homes telling them that they will be arrested for various reasons if they show up to vote.
Surprise! All the people getting the calls are Democrats.
 
Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Funny how you speak of a clean election. Virginia voters are getting pre-recorded calls to their homes telling them that they will be arrested for various reasons if they show up to vote.
Surprise! All the people getting the calls are Democrats.

Your link is broken. Text
 
Actually, we should expect high numbers of votes for Republicans to start off, since I think there are more of them who vote early, or there are more of them who voted by absentee, or something. So expect a couple of tight races that look good for the GOP tonight to last into Wednesday.
 
Originally posted by: Aisengard
Actually, we should expect high numbers of votes for Republicans to start off, since I think there are more of them who vote early, or there are more of them who voted by absentee, or something. So expect a couple of tight races that look good for the GOP tonight to last into Wednesday.

This makes no sense unless there are places that report results before the polls are closed-which would be a big surprise to me. When a poll closes and reports, it reports all the votes it received all day long. Which polls report first depends on many factors, but a rough general rule is low count, rural polls are among the first and high population city polls are later. There shouldn't be any results (other than turnout estimations) until the first polls close-which I doubt is earlier anywhere than 6 PM Eastern Time (in my state they are open until 8 PM Eastern).

BTW, many of us non-GOP get up way before the sun. Early rising and work ethic are certainly not traits limited to the GOP. I voted at 6:10 AM today and the sign wavers from both parties were already out in full force (polls opened at 6 AM).
 
Originally posted by: Wapp
Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Funny how you speak of a clean election. Virginia voters are getting pre-recorded calls to their homes telling them that they will be <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbar...kos.com/story/2006/11/6/1717/68014</a>">arrested</a> for various reasons if they show up to vote.
Surprise! All the people getting the calls are Democrats.

Your link is broken. Text

It's funny how all you have to do is run a web site to be an authority. I'm sure the webmatser has absolute proof that these situations happened, and absolute proof that they weren't fabricated. Of course, the webmaster lists exactly who perpetrated these acts, as well.
 
19. Republicans will whine, endlessly, before, during and after ANYTHING happens...even if they have to imagine it in order to get a head start on the whining. Geez, can't you guys at least wait until the "vast left-wing conspiracy" kicks into gear before getting your panties in a bunch? And hey, at least after today (possibly) your whining will have a lot more credibility. When you control the Presidency and both houses of congress, it's a LITTLE hard to buy the argument that the evil lefties are keeping you down. Bitching about the courts and the media only gets you so far 😉
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
19. Both parties will whine, endlessly, before, during and after ANYTHING happens...even if they have to imagine it in order to get a head start on the whining.

Corrected
 
What blog did you lift these from PJ?

Also Steele is running in Maryland which is not a southern state like TN, so your Steele - Ford comparison is stupid.

and

"15. I will be making a lot less posts after the election. Good news for you Democrats, no mater who wins. "

Does that mean you are a viral political marketer whose job is finished?
 
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Rainsford
19. Both parties will whine, endlessly, before, during and after ANYTHING happens...even if they have to imagine it in order to get a head start on the whining.

Corrected

You are right, of course. I was simply reacting to the OP in particular, but I imagine the day won't be too much older before the same type of thing starts up from the left. Get ready to get sick of the words "vote stealing" before the end of the week...
 
Originally posted by: ayabe
Steele is running in Maryland which is not a southern state like TN, so your Steele - Ford comparison is stupid.

Isn't the Mason-Dixon line typically the delineator of the "South"? When did it move?
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Rainsford
19. Both parties will whine, endlessly, before, during and after ANYTHING happens...even if they have to imagine it in order to get a head start on the whining.

Corrected

You are right, of course. I was simply reacting to the OP in particular, but I imagine the day won't be too much older before the same type of thing starts up from the left. Get ready to get sick of the words "vote stealing" before the end of the week...

Already ill.
 
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: ayabe
Steele is running in Maryland which is not a southern state like TN, so your Steele - Ford comparison is stupid.

Isn't the Mason-Dixon line typically the delineator of the "South"? When did it move?

:roll:

Whatever, ever been to Baltimore? Maryland is not TN with respect to racial relations.
 
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: ayabe
Steele is running in Maryland which is not a southern state like TN, so your Steele - Ford comparison is stupid.

Isn't the Mason-Dixon line typically the delineator of the "South"? When did it move?

:roll:

Whatever, ever been to Baltimore? Maryland is not TN with respect to racial relations.

Technically FuzzyBee is right, Maryland is geographically considered a southern state...and in fact during the civil war attempted to join the confederacy (they were stopped because then DC would have been surrounded on all sides by the enemy). However, culturally it is a very different place than even southern Virginia, it feels very much like the more northerly eastern states. However, I'm still not sure race is the deciding factor anywhere. Obviously race issues are not dead and buried in a lot of the country, but I don't think they have as much pull as they used to by any stretch of the imagination, even in states infamous for issues back in the bad old days.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: ayabe
Steele is running in Maryland which is not a southern state like TN, so your Steele - Ford comparison is stupid.

Isn't the Mason-Dixon line typically the delineator of the "South"? When did it move?

:roll:

Whatever, ever been to Baltimore? Maryland is not TN with respect to racial relations.

Technically FuzzyBee is right, Maryland is geographically considered a southern state...and in fact during the civil war attempted to join the confederacy (they were stopped because then DC would have been surrounded on all sides by the enemy). However, culturally it is a very different place than even southern Virginia, it feels very much like the more northerly eastern states. However, I'm still not sure race is the deciding factor anywhere. Obviously race issues are not dead and buried in a lot of the country, but I don't think they have as much pull as they used to by any stretch of the imagination, even in states infamous for issues back in the bad old days.

Culture and demographics are what I am basing my opinion on, a black candidate, regardless of party has a better chance to win in Maryland than in Tennessee, that's a sad fact.

As for history, the demographics of Maryland and the DC area have changed so dramatically since the end of the Civil War, I think such comparisons are invalid to say the least.
 
Originally posted by: Wapp
Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Funny how you speak of a clean election. Virginia voters are getting pre-recorded calls to their homes telling them that they will be <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbar...kos.com/story/2006/11/6/1717/68014</a>">arrested</a> for various reasons if they show up to vote.
Surprise! All the people getting the calls are Democrats.

Your link is broken. Text

You would think they could at least spell the names of the cities in question correctly. 1 or 2 incidents does not make a conspiracy.
 
Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Funny how you speak of a clean election. Virginia voters are getting pre-recorded calls to their homes telling them that they will be arrested for various reasons if they show up to vote.
Surprise! All the people getting the calls are Democrats.

Daily KOS. Nice source. lol.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Best thing about this list is Wednesday we can look at it and see how right or wrong I am.

1. The media will find at least one polling place in a poor minority community with overly long lines and this will be used to make the chase for ?voter disenfranchisement? meanwhile hundreds of polling places in white surbubran areas will suffer the same problems and it will be ignored.
2. Any expected Republican loss that turns into a Republican victory will be seen as an ?unexpected victory? but any Democrat who pulls an upset will be heralded as a ?great victory?
3. If the Democrats take the house the USA Today will run the headline ?America Votes for a Change? whereas in 1994 they ran the headline "ANGRY WHITE MEN: Their votes turn the tide for GOP."
4. We will not know the results of Tom Delay?s old district until Wednesday due to the large number of write in votes.
5. A Lincoln Chafee victory in Rhode Island will be downplayed despite the fact that he was down 10 points in the polls only a week ago.
6. The Missouri Senate race is the one most likely to spur recounts and other charges. This is the state where one judge ordered inner city polls kept open late while another judge ordered them closed. Of all the races this one could end up being the ugliest.
7. A Democrat victory will be cast as a vote against the war, despite the fact that the anti-war candidate himself, Lamont, will lose by 10+ points.
8. Some Democrat will claim a Democrat mandate no more how small their victory.
9. The cries of impeachment will start the second Democrats are projected to take control of the house.
10. Any glitch in computerized voting systems will be seen as proof of attempts to ?steal? the election.
11. Watch the east coast Senate races, Republican victories in VA, MD and RI will mean that Democrats will be lucky to win the house. However, Democrat victories in those 3 races would point to a 30 or so seat victory for Democrats.
12. The expectations game favors Republicans. Any thing less than a Democrat take over of congress would be HUGE victory for Republicans. While Democrats have to win 30+ seats just to meet ?historical? averages for 6 year elections. Despite this, a 1 seat majority for Democrats will be called a ?great victory? by someone.
13. Cultural issues, gay marriage in VA and stem cell in MO, could help Republicans to victory in both states.
14. Which ever party does not have control of the house will most likely turn to an outside of DC candidate in 08. Especially if the Democrats can not gain control.
15. I will be making a lot less posts after the election. Good news for you Democrats, no mater who wins.
16. The number of post election lawsuits and claims of irregularity will be inversely proportional to the number of Democratic victories.
17. A victory by a black Republican (Steele) will be ignored while a loss by a black Democrat (Ford) will be seen as proof that racisms is still a major problem in American.
18. A huge Democrat victory will result in Rumseld leaving, but a Republican victory will not.

Wah! Thankfully, you've gotten your whining all out of the way in advance. :roll:
 
I can believe that some supporter, if they are behind can have a few busloads of people ready to vote and pull up 5 minutes before the polling place is suppose to close.
 
Originally posted by: ayabe
What blog did you lift these from PJ?

Also Steele is running in Maryland which is not a southern state like TN, so your Steele - Ford comparison is stupid.

and

"15. I will be making a lot less posts after the election. Good news for you Democrats, no mater who wins. "

Does that mean you are a viral political marketer whose job is finished?
Created them myself based on what I was seeing on Realclearpolitics and from memory.

I am already posting less. Half the recent threads do not interest me and I am spending way to much time on here talking to people who will never agree with me.
Also, I am tried of 'smear the conservative' It's a game where one of the few conservatives posts a nice thoughtful post and 5 people who disagree with them respond with attacks that totally ignore the post and just call you names. It get old after a bit 🙂
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: ayabe
What blog did you lift these from PJ?

Also Steele is running in Maryland which is not a southern state like TN, so your Steele - Ford comparison is stupid.

and

"15. I will be making a lot less posts after the election. Good news for you Democrats, no mater who wins. "

Does that mean you are a viral political marketer whose job is finished?
Created them myself based on what I was seeing on Realclearpolitics and from memory.

I am already posting less. Half the recent threads do not interest me and I am spending way to much time on here talking to people who will never agree with me.
Also, I am tried of 'smear the conservative' It's a game where one of the few conservatives posts a nice thoughtful post and 5 people who disagree with them respond with attacks that totally ignore the post and just call you names. It get old after a bit 🙂

Wether its New England or P and N,
You have to give the social progressives there lil corner so they can do the group hug with each other and pretend that they represent mainstreet USA.
Thanks for your posts John, visit often.
 
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: ayabe
What blog did you lift these from PJ?

Also Steele is running in Maryland which is not a southern state like TN, so your Steele - Ford comparison is stupid.

and

"15. I will be making a lot less posts after the election. Good news for you Democrats, no mater who wins. "

Does that mean you are a viral political marketer whose job is finished?
Created them myself based on what I was seeing on Realclearpolitics and from memory.

I am already posting less. Half the recent threads do not interest me and I am spending way to much time on here talking to people who will never agree with me.
Also, I am tried of 'smear the conservative' It's a game where one of the few conservatives posts a nice thoughtful post and 5 people who disagree with them respond with attacks that totally ignore the post and just call you names. It get old after a bit 🙂

Wether its New England or P and N,
You have to give the social progressives there lil corner so they can do the group hug with each other and pretend that they represent mainstreet USA.
Thanks for your posts John, visit often.

are you saying that we don't represent mainstreet america?
 
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