Einstein: God belief is childish

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Enig101

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I've seen hell firsthand, it's on earth and it was in Bagram.

This ridiculous religious bullshit is just that, and the worst is Christianity.

And i am saying that seeing what has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

If there is a god, IF there is a god, he is one twisted sick motherfucker that i'd like to torture for years before allowing him to live and then start over.

IF there is a god, i despise his very essence with the might that only an SAS Captain can.

I feel sorry for you, you must live a fucked-up life.

I would thank God for all the awesomeness that I have experienced.

Well isn't that nice for you. However, there are a lot of people on Earth. After you're done thanking God for being so generous, would you be inclined to ask why millions suffered famine, disease and war while you led a relatively blessed life?

Out of empathy for my fellow man, I too would be pretty annoyed at God.

Nope. I wouldn't even bother asking God why bad things happened to me.

I don't proclaim to speak for God ( ) but I would imagine that many bad things happen simply because of free will. Others may be categorized as what we refer to as "blessings in disguise." Certainly that leaves many other instances that lead us to ask "why, God, why?"
Perhaps if there are no answers to our questions, we are asking the wrong questions.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Enig101

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I've seen hell firsthand, it's on earth and it was in Bagram.

This ridiculous religious bullshit is just that, and the worst is Christianity.

And i am saying that seeing what has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

If there is a god, IF there is a god, he is one twisted sick motherfucker that i'd like to torture for years before allowing him to live and then start over.

IF there is a god, i despise his very essence with the might that only an SAS Captain can.

I feel sorry for you, you must live a fucked-up life.

I would thank God for all the awesomeness that I have experienced.

Well isn't that nice for you. However, there are a lot of people on Earth. After you're done thanking God for being so generous, would you be inclined to ask why millions suffered famine, disease and war while you led a relatively blessed life?

Out of empathy for my fellow man, I too would be pretty annoyed at God.

Nope. I wouldn't even bother asking God why bad things happened to me.

I don't proclaim to speak for God ( ) but I would imagine that many bad things happen simply because of free will. Others may be categorized as what we refer to as "blessings in disguise." Certainly that leaves many other instances that lead us to ask "why, God, why?"
Perhaps if there are no answers to our questions, we are asking the wrong questions.

And perhaps the only way God can act in the world is through people.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Enig101

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I've seen hell firsthand, it's on earth and it was in Bagram.

This ridiculous religious bullshit is just that, and the worst is Christianity.

And i am saying that seeing what has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

If there is a god, IF there is a god, he is one twisted sick motherfucker that i'd like to torture for years before allowing him to live and then start over.

IF there is a god, i despise his very essence with the might that only an SAS Captain can.

I feel sorry for you, you must live a fucked-up life.

I would thank God for all the awesomeness that I have experienced.

Well isn't that nice for you. However, there are a lot of people on Earth. After you're done thanking God for being so generous, would you be inclined to ask why millions suffered famine, disease and war while you led a relatively blessed life?

Out of empathy for my fellow man, I too would be pretty annoyed at God.

Nope. I wouldn't even bother asking God why bad things happened to me.

I don't proclaim to speak for God ( ) but I would imagine that many bad things happen simply because of free will. Others may be categorized as what we refer to as "blessings in disguise." Certainly that leaves many other instances that lead us to ask "why, God, why?"
Perhaps if there are no answers to our questions, we are asking the wrong questions.

And perhaps the only way God can act in the world is through people.

Or perhaps its not a lack of ability, but something preferred.

 

[Kerouactivist]

I'm pretty sure Einstein didn't just dislike organized religion...from what I've gathered he was pretty much something along the lines of a pantheist....and thought the notion of a personal god absurd...

Thats my interpretation from what I've read and heard about him.

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Enig101

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I've seen hell firsthand, it's on earth and it was in Bagram.

This ridiculous religious bullshit is just that, and the worst is Christianity.

And i am saying that seeing what has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

If there is a god, IF there is a god, he is one twisted sick motherfucker that i'd like to torture for years before allowing him to live and then start over.

IF there is a god, i despise his very essence with the might that only an SAS Captain can.

I feel sorry for you, you must live a fucked-up life.

I would thank God for all the awesomeness that I have experienced.

Well isn't that nice for you. However, there are a lot of people on Earth. After you're done thanking God for being so generous, would you be inclined to ask why millions suffered famine, disease and war while you led a relatively blessed life?

Out of empathy for my fellow man, I too would be pretty annoyed at God.

Nope. I wouldn't even bother asking God why bad things happened to me.

I don't proclaim to speak for God ( ) but I would imagine that many bad things happen simply because of free will. Others may be categorized as what we refer to as "blessings in disguise." Certainly that leaves many other instances that lead us to ask "why, God, why?"
Perhaps if there are no answers to our questions, we are asking the wrong questions.

And perhaps the only way God can act in the world is through people.

Perhaps the safest thing for humanity is for God to choose to act through people rather than get involved himself. The holy of Holies is no place for a man to be.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Enig101

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I've seen hell firsthand, it's on earth and it was in Bagram.

This ridiculous religious bullshit is just that, and the worst is Christianity.

And i am saying that seeing what has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

If there is a god, IF there is a god, he is one twisted sick motherfucker that i'd like to torture for years before allowing him to live and then start over.

IF there is a god, i despise his very essence with the might that only an SAS Captain can.

I feel sorry for you, you must live a fucked-up life.

I would thank God for all the awesomeness that I have experienced.

Well isn't that nice for you. However, there are a lot of people on Earth. After you're done thanking God for being so generous, would you be inclined to ask why millions suffered famine, disease and war while you led a relatively blessed life?

Out of empathy for my fellow man, I too would be pretty annoyed at God.

Nope. I wouldn't even bother asking God why bad things happened to me.

I don't proclaim to speak for God ( ) but I would imagine that many bad things happen simply because of free will. Others may be categorized as what we refer to as "blessings in disguise." Certainly that leaves many other instances that lead us to ask "why, God, why?"
Perhaps if there are no answers to our questions, we are asking the wrong questions.

Figures that God has the best job in the universe. Good things happen, he gets praised. Bad things happen, people blame themselves or some guy with horns who lives underground.


Wait, how do you know those blessings and blessings in disguise aren't from Zeus or Aries? I think it's unfair that Yahweh gets all the credit.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I've seen hell firsthand, it's on earth and it was in Bagram.

This ridiculous religious bullshit is just that, and the worst is Christianity.

And i am saying that seeing what has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

If there is a god, IF there is a god, he is one twisted sick motherfucker that i'd like to torture for years before allowing him to live and then start over.

IF there is a god, i despise his very essence with the might that only an SAS Captain can.

I feel sorry for you, you must live a fucked-up life.

I would thank God for all the awesomeness that I have experienced.

I am a soldier, i have been a soldier since i was 18, i've seen shit that you are sheltered from or cheer as "OMG that his soooo cool" on TV.

It's different on the ground, the bombs aren't pretty fireworks meant to liven up the day of the people, they kill indiscriminately.

I don't believe in a God, no supreme fucking being could screw shit up this bad, however, your lot allows him to do so and it's all still good.

You'd think people would at least understand that this world is SHIT, but they don't, they live in their bubble and think what is going on in Burma, China, Darfur, Tchad, Sudan, Amir, Bagram and so on is some kind of fucking video game without real casualties.

When you have held a child who's been shot in the vagina to maximise bleeding and make any form of rescue impossible and watched the life disappear from her eyes then you can talk about people being "blessed" until then, you really should shut up about Gods blessings.

Or are you supreme, worth more somehow? You can't answer any of it because this worlds terror does not rhyme well with your belief in a benevolent God, so you do what all religious people do, shut your eyes and cover your ears and think that God has favored you, there are plenty of Imams that do the same.

Religion is the first resort for the weak, i have no use for bullshit stories and living in some kind of fantasy world and pretending that evil isn't right here right now, i see reality every day.

I was going to Pakistan today, but this is not that day when it's good to go, maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow, until then, i'll sit here and argue with your dumb arse.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I've seen hell firsthand, it's on earth and it was in Bagram.

This ridiculous religious bullshit is just that, and the worst is Christianity.

And i am saying that seeing what has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

If there is a god, IF there is a god, he is one twisted sick motherfucker that i'd like to torture for years before allowing him to live and then start over.

IF there is a god, i despise his very essence with the might that only an SAS Captain can.

Wait, how is Christianity the worst? All I ever see you post on here is how fucked up the fundamentalist Muslims are.

Well, at least Muslims can acknowledge that they are violent, Christians love to portray themselves as benevolent loving people, but truth be told, no other religion has even come close to the amount of people killed in the name of "christ".

I guess my point is that hipocracy amongst "christians" is a requirement, it's stupid too because if you don't acknowledge your wrongdoings, you cannot be forgiven from them.

At least that is my understanding, denying sins is second only to denying the existance of a Holy Ghost and yet christians do that daily.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Nope. I wouldn't even bother asking God why bad things happened to me.

I don't proclaim to speak for God ( ) but I would imagine that many bad things happen simply because of free will. Others may be categorized as what we refer to as "blessings in disguise." Certainly that leaves many other instances that lead us to ask "why, God, why?"
Perhaps if there are no answers to our questions, we are asking the wrong questions.

So you had the free will to choose to be born in America to parents that were mentally stable and driven to succeed?

Please, do tell me how this works so that I can let the rest of the world know so that we can stop others from being born into poverty, drug addicted families and other even more horrific situations.

Or are those the "blessings in disguise" that you refer to? Please explain how any of the above are blessings from your god and how people that have never been exposed to your god are blessed by your god by being born into a world that is war torn, famine stricken or just third world without the opportunity to ever know the blessings of your god.

I like your closing as well. "It's god's plan and we aren't to ever question it or understand it." No wonder idiots have been led to do inhuman things for centuries. They are too ignorant to question and they are too stupid to realize that the answer they were given just doesn't add up.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I've seen hell firsthand, it's on earth and it was in Bagram.

This ridiculous religious bullshit is just that, and the worst is Christianity.

And i am saying that seeing what has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

If there is a god, IF there is a god, he is one twisted sick motherfucker that i'd like to torture for years before allowing him to live and then start over.

IF there is a god, i despise his very essence with the might that only an SAS Captain can.

Wait, how is Christianity the worst? All I ever see you post on here is how fucked up the fundamentalist Muslims are.

Well, at least Muslims can acknowledge that they are violent, Christians love to portray themselves as benevolent loving people, but truth be told, no other religion has even come close to the amount of people killed in the name of "christ".

I guess my point is that hipocracy amongst "christians" is a requirement, it's stupid too because if you don't acknowledge your wrongdoings, you cannot be forgiven from them.

At least that is my understanding, denying sins is second only to denying the existance of a Holy Ghost and yet christians do that daily.

Ever heard of a reformation? Something the Muslims need. The Christians discovered this hundreds of years ago. Thus, this is the reason Christians protray themselves as "loving people"

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I've seen hell firsthand, it's on earth and it was in Bagram.

This ridiculous religious bullshit is just that, and the worst is Christianity.

And i am saying that seeing what has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

If there is a god, IF there is a god, he is one twisted sick motherfucker that i'd like to torture for years before allowing him to live and then start over.

IF there is a god, i despise his very essence with the might that only an SAS Captain can.

That is how I feel. And I ask myself what I can do. Not one murdered innocent child can I bring back. With all my passion, with all mine pain, with all my prayers and longing, there's not one thing past I can change. There's nothing I see but endless misery and injustice. I looked for God everywhere but he does not exist, not as a power out there that can act. I want to kill every evil person in the world, tear them limb from limb, boil them in hell forever, but I can't, and if I could I would only add to the endless pain that already exists. The fact that life is totally a empty joke and endless pain killed me. I couldn't save my life. I saw that in this totally meaningless world where nothing matters at all, and in the blackest depths of despair, I realized that I still care. I love innocent children even if there's no meaning. God it seems had been hiding in me. God is not unless you love. Only in your own love does he come to be. His love, your love, what difference does it make?

But you are wrong, we CAN make a difference, there is a reason why people are fleeing INTO Afghanistan now, why women walk around dressed however they like and are free.

All it takes to change something is all you got and all you can possibly muster, you have to give it everything you possibly can.

There is the God, the last man standing up after 30 days of constant battle with 1-4 hours of sleep at night and hardly any food except canned crap from 30 years ago.

You don't think i have love? I have love, i have love for many people who i consider my friends, my brothers would be more apt, perhaps, i have love for my Son and my Daughter, i miss them every day, and while it took a while and i did get help from a good man on this forum at the time, we ended up enjoying our vacation together, PTS is the least of my worries, reality, when it hits you for the first time, is a fuckload harder to handle when you get back.

I see this for what it is, and i speak my mind on this issue only so that people will fucking know reality, doesn't really matter though, because no one will even try to read it except those who already know.

You impressed me with your reply though and i think i might have been a bit hasty to dismiss you or condemn you before, for that i apologise.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I've seen hell firsthand, it's on earth and it was in Bagram.

This ridiculous religious bullshit is just that, and the worst is Christianity.

And i am saying that seeing what has happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

If there is a god, IF there is a god, he is one twisted sick motherfucker that i'd like to torture for years before allowing him to live and then start over.

IF there is a god, i despise his very essence with the might that only an SAS Captain can.

Wait, how is Christianity the worst? All I ever see you post on here is how fucked up the fundamentalist Muslims are.

Well, at least Muslims can acknowledge that they are violent, Christians love to portray themselves as benevolent loving people, but truth be told, no other religion has even come close to the amount of people killed in the name of "christ".

I guess my point is that hipocracy amongst "christians" is a requirement, it's stupid too because if you don't acknowledge your wrongdoings, you cannot be forgiven from them.

At least that is my understanding, denying sins is second only to denying the existance of a Holy Ghost and yet christians do that daily.

Ever heard of a reformation? Something the Muslims need. The Christians discovered this hundreds of years ago. Thus, this is the reason Christians protray themselves as "loving people"

Son, you don't need to tell me that the fundamentalist Muslims are violent, they shoot at me daily, however, christians of TODAY are every bit as violent, they just don't admit to it.

I find religion useless and it only ever serves as a source of conflict, Kosovo, Darfur, Israel-Jordan-Egypt, Saudi-Iran-Syria-Palestine, you get it, right?

It might surprise you to know that Hinduism is just as violent too, it's just not mentioned, instead they blame it on the "poor indians culture" which is a crock of shit too.

If you fell that i am attacking your religion, i am not, i'm not saying that YOU are a violent person that uses Christ to defend your violent actions, i'm just saying that it's done. You are, of course, free to hold whatever beliefs you hold, i'd even fight for your ability to do so.

I guess my main point is that using religion to justify yourself is stupid and goes directly against what every religion i know of stands for.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Son, you don't need to tell me that the fundamentalist Muslims are violent, they shoot at me daily, however, christians of TODAY are every bit as violent, they just don't admit to it.

I'm not your son, thankfully. However, you couldnt be more wrong about Christians of TODAY being just as violent as Muslims. Let me know when you are in another country, fighting against Christians who are shooting at you in the name of their God, then we can talk. Then show me the thousands of Christian leaders who defend it, and we can talk some more. Then show me the millions of Christians who support it, and we can talk even more.

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I guess my main point is that using religion to justify yourself is stupid and goes directly against what every religion i know of stands for.

Except for Islam, I totally agree.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Son, you don't need to tell me that the fundamentalist Muslims are violent, they shoot at me daily, however, christians of TODAY are every bit as violent, they just don't admit to it.

I'm not your son, thankfully. However, you couldnt be more wrong about Christians of TODAY being just as violent as Muslims. Let me know when you are in another country, fighting against Christians who are shooting at you in the name of their God, then we can talk. Then show me the thousands of Christian leaders who defend it, and we can talk some more. Then show me the millions of Christians who support it, and we can talk even more.

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I guess my main point is that using religion to justify yourself is stupid and goes directly against what every religion i know of stands for.

Except for Islam, I totally agree.

He isn't being shot at by Muslims in the name of their god. He is being shot at by Muslims in the name of defense of their country by an occupying force.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Son, you don't need to tell me that the fundamentalist Muslims are violent, they shoot at me daily, however, christians of TODAY are every bit as violent, they just don't admit to it.

I'm not your son, thankfully. However, you couldnt be more wrong about Christians of TODAY being just as violent as Muslims. Let me know when you are in another country, fighting against Christians who are shooting at you in the name of their God, then we can talk. Then show me the thousands of Christian leaders who defend it, and we can talk some more. Then show me the millions of Christians who support it, and we can talk even more.

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I guess my main point is that using religion to justify yourself is stupid and goes directly against what every religion i know of stands for.

Except for Islam, I totally agree.

He isn't being shot at by Muslims in the name of their god. He is being shot at by Muslims in the name of defense of their country by an occupying force.

Wrong.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Son, you don't need to tell me that the fundamentalist Muslims are violent, they shoot at me daily, however, christians of TODAY are every bit as violent, they just don't admit to it.

I'm not your son, thankfully. However, you couldnt be more wrong about Christians of TODAY being just as violent as Muslims. Let me know when you are in another country, fighting against Christians who are shooting at you in the name of their God, then we can talk. Then show me the thousands of Christian leaders who defend it, and we can talk some more. Then show me the millions of Christians who support it, and we can talk even more.

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I guess my main point is that using religion to justify yourself is stupid and goes directly against what every religion i know of stands for.

Except for Islam, I totally agree.

Of course you are not my son, i'm not into inbreeding amongst hicks, i just call everyone below half of my age son, it's quite common in Sheffield. I'd ask you to visit it but i don't want to confuse you with sheit like geography and other advanced stuff.

I couldn't be more wrong? Field priests tell me that i couldn't be more right, who have greater knowledge, you or them?

Making shit up doesn't help son, in essence, Islam has the same rules about killing as Judaism and Christianity, ALL THREE adhere to the ten commandments.

I hope i didn't screw you up too bad with that tidbit of information.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Son, you don't need to tell me that the fundamentalist Muslims are violent, they shoot at me daily, however, christians of TODAY are every bit as violent, they just don't admit to it.

I'm not your son, thankfully. However, you couldnt be more wrong about Christians of TODAY being just as violent as Muslims. Let me know when you are in another country, fighting against Christians who are shooting at you in the name of their God, then we can talk. Then show me the thousands of Christian leaders who defend it, and we can talk some more. Then show me the millions of Christians who support it, and we can talk even more.

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I guess my main point is that using religion to justify yourself is stupid and goes directly against what every religion i know of stands for.

Except for Islam, I totally agree.

He isn't being shot at by Muslims in the name of their god. He is being shot at by Muslims in the name of defense of their country by an occupying force.

No, i'm being shot at by terrorists that call themselves Talibans, these people are not sane, they wouldn't spare your childrens life, in fact, most likely they would torture them for days while making you watch them.

That shit isn't about religion, it's about psychopats who happen to be Muslims, kinda like Josef happens to be Catholic or the Mormon sect that rape underaged girls happen to be Mormons, there is nothing in the religion about this it's all about torture that they love, the more pain they can inflict on the victim the harder their cocks get.

And no, there is no occupation going on in Afghanistan, we are there to eradicate the enemy, the Talibans, and we have support both by Afghani and Pakistani people, don't mix Afghanistan with the occupation based on bullshit in Iraq, it's not the same war and it's not the same reason, at least not for SAS.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Making shit up doesn't help son, in essence, Islam has the same rules about killing as Judaism and Christianity, ALL THREE adhere to the ten commandments.

I hope i didn't screw you up too bad with that tidbit of information.

Wrong again.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Making shit up doesn't help son, in essence, Islam has the same rules about killing as Judaism and Christianity, ALL THREE adhere to the ten commandments.

I hope i didn't screw you up too bad with that tidbit of information.

Wrong again.

Present something and not out of context as usual, i think i have some knowledge about Islam, and one thing that i can DEFINENTLY say is that they are not allowed to kill except in self defense, according to their religion, same goes for Christianity, but both religions ignore that completely along with "love thy neighber as yourself", no one gives a fuck about the love commandments, PUNISHMENT is what Christianity is all about these days, and Islam follows.

If you really want to argue your case you stupid fuck, then please give me something besides "you're wrong" that bullshit should have ended in grade school, if you are out of it now, that is.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Making shit up doesn't help son, in essence, Islam has the same rules about killing as Judaism and Christianity, ALL THREE adhere to the ten commandments.

I hope i didn't screw you up too bad with that tidbit of information.

Wrong again.

Present something and not out of context as usual, i think i have some knowledge about Islam, and one thing that i can DEFINENTLY say is that they are not allowed to kill except in self defense, according to their religion, same goes for Christianity, but both religions ignore that completely along with "love thy neighber as yourself", no one gives a fuck about the love commandments, PUNISHMENT is what Christianity is all about these days, and Islam follows.

Wrong again. But feel free to post proof.

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
If you really want to argue your case you stupid fuck, then please give me something besides "you're wrong" that bullshit should have ended in grade school, if you are out of it now, that is.

What ended in gradeschool was namecalling. Especially names like that.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Making shit up doesn't help son, in essence, Islam has the same rules about killing as Judaism and Christianity, ALL THREE adhere to the ten commandments.

I hope i didn't screw you up too bad with that tidbit of information.

Wrong again.

Present something and not out of context as usual, i think i have some knowledge about Islam, and one thing that i can DEFINENTLY say is that they are not allowed to kill except in self defense, according to their religion, same goes for Christianity, but both religions ignore that completely along with "love thy neighber as yourself", no one gives a fuck about the love commandments, PUNISHMENT is what Christianity is all about these days, and Islam follows.

Wrong again. But feel free to post proof.

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
If you really want to argue your case you stupid fuck, then please give me something besides "you're wrong" that bullshit should have ended in grade school, if you are out of it now, that is.

What ended in gradeschool was namecalling. Especially names like that.

No, twat, i'm tired of repeating myself, i asked you to provide more than "you're wrong neener nee nee nee neee" and you simply can't.

Is omission of fact or speaking out against what you know to be true and calling it wrong a lie?

Did you know that there is no hiearchy of sins, all are of equal worth in Christianity, so commiting murder, raping a two year old is not worse than what you just did.

If there is a heaven and a hell, well, you know where you are going.

We have a remedy for those who get tired of repeating themselves and resort to personal attacks. Watch it or take a vacation. Your only warning.

PC Surgeon
AnandTech P&N Moderator

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Son, you don't need to tell me that the fundamentalist Muslims are violent, they shoot at me daily, however, christians of TODAY are every bit as violent, they just don't admit to it.

I find religion useless and it only ever serves as a source of conflict, Kosovo, Darfur, Israel-Jordan-Egypt, Saudi-Iran-Syria-Palestine, you get it, right?

It might surprise you to know that Hinduism is just as violent too, it's just not mentioned, instead they blame it on the "poor indians culture" which is a crock of shit too.

If you fell that i am attacking your religion, i am not, i'm not saying that YOU are a violent person that uses Christ to defend your violent actions, i'm just saying that it's done. You are, of course, free to hold whatever beliefs you hold, i'd even fight for your ability to do so.

I guess my main point is that using religion to justify yourself is stupid and goes directly against what every religion i know of stands for.

:thumbsup:

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: bamacre

Nope. I wouldn't even bother asking God why bad things happened to me.

I don't proclaim to speak for God ( ) but I would imagine that many bad things happen simply because of free will. Others may be categorized as what we refer to as "blessings in disguise." Certainly that leaves many other instances that lead us to ask "why, God, why?"
Perhaps if there are no answers to our questions, we are asking the wrong questions.

So you had the free will to choose to be born in America to parents that were mentally stable and driven to succeed?

Please, do tell me how this works so that I can let the rest of the world know so that we can stop others from being born into poverty, drug addicted families and other even more horrific situations.

Or are those the "blessings in disguise" that you refer to? Please explain how any of the above are blessings from your god and how people that have never been exposed to your god are blessed by your god by being born into a world that is war torn, famine stricken or just third world without the opportunity to ever know the blessings of your god.

I like your closing as well. "It's god's plan and we aren't to ever question it or understand it." No wonder idiots have been led to do inhuman things for centuries. They are too ignorant to question and they are too stupid to realize that the answer they were given just doesn't add up.

You should read my entire post. You missed one sentence, obviously. And you twisted, or just completely misunderstood my last comment.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
No, twat, i'm tired of repeating myself, i asked you to provide more than "you're wrong neener nee nee nee neee" and you simply can't.

I quoted what you said that was wrong. no need in getting into why. You will just continue the name calling and avoid the subject.

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Did you know that there is no hiearchy of sins, all are of equal worth in Christianity, so commiting murder, raping a two year old is not worse than what you just did.

If there is a heaven and a hell, well, you know where you are going.

No, I didnt know that. And to think, I went through Seminary for nothing. If you knew the first thing about Christianity, its that our sins are covered by the blood of Jesus.

Now, back on subject. Feel free to post proof that "PUNISHMENT is what Christianity is all about these days".

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: Deleted member 4644
http://www.breitbart.com/artic...3ds3b6j&show_article=1

New letter from him. This will be sure to stoke some debate, although I think fewer people really appreciate his genius today than say, 25 years ago.

Albert Einstein described belief in God as "childish superstition" and said Jews were not the chosen people, in a letter to be sold in London this week, an auctioneer said Tuesday.

The father of relativity, whose previously known views on religion have been more ambivalent and fuelled much discussion, made the comments in response to a philosopher in 1954.

As a Jew himself, Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people".

"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.

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Who is going to change their current belief system because of this raise your hand.