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Eight ways Tokyo kicks any North American city's butt.

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Eight ways Tokyo tops T.O.

1. Lost In Space: Even in cities where we no longer have vast spaces, like Toronto, we still have more than in any Japanese city. Tokyo, at 12+ million, is densely crowded, but people there have learned and honed over generations the way in which civility (and the many layers thereof) can create personal space. So it's disheartening to see how little we have. The level of noise of people talking amongst themselves becomes a dull roar. I'll take Japan's hierarchical, extremely polite codified language and strict social mores any day.

The difference between the Tokyo and Vancouver airport is staggering, and my stereotype of us as the most polite citizens of the world was forever shattered by the succession of Canadians loudly yammering away on their mobiles the moment we landed.

2. The Silence Menace: I only heard a Japanese cellphone ring twice. For a nation where every one of the over 125 million inhabitants appears to own at least one mobile or PDA, you quickly notice that nobody is actually talking on them.

Instead, they text, read or play video games silently -- and small signs posted everywhere remind everybody to keep phones set to vibrate, and not talk on them. The signs themselves are not miraculous -- the miracle is the extent to which they are observed.

3. In Transit Gloria: The philosophies of just-in-time and continuous improvement, originally developed for Japanese manufacturing, are employed at every level ( just as there are health and safety committees here, there are continuous improvement committees there).

Public transit is well-integrated, inexpensive and ubiquitous. It's also quite literally on the dot -- dots on the platform show precisely where the doors will open.

4. White Noise: Japanese construction sites are self-contained and keep the surrounding area immaculate. I noticed a strange device at one construction site and realized it was a pair of automatic decibel meters. The ever-changing digits are writ large for the public to read, measuring the construction noise against the ambient traffic and street noise, showing that the former does not exceed the latter.

5. Economies of Scale: To deal with the sheer volume of stuff, everything is designed for efficiency, productivity and hygiene, from the individually wrapped cookies (which also goes hand in hand with the emphasis on presentation) to the near-compulsory, voluntary wearing of surgical-grade white masks in public when one has a cold, so as not to infect others. I wish the guy coughing and hacking on my flight home had worn one.

6. Portion control: The largest clothing size for women maxes out at about a six (though in most places, it's a four), which is tyrannical for an average-sized Western woman on a shopping expedition. But, if I had stayed long enough, I could easily have fit into them thanks to smaller portion sizes for food and drink (and I wasn't even hungry!)

As a souvenir, I brought back a so-called "supersized" Kirin Stout glass, a dwarf that resembles a thimble when compared to the rest of my beer mugs. This difference is clearly a factor in why our size large and theirs are so different.

7. Convenience Stores: The Japanese "just-in-time" manufacturing philosophy trickles down from the department store down to the corner convenience store. The 7-Elevens restock ready meals and fresh items like bread and delectable pain au chocolat just as they are about to run out of them.

I already miss the phalanx of vending machines that helpfully gobble up heavy pockets of loose change and dispense everything from chilled lattes to warm meals.

8. Ablutions: Once you have used the Japanese version of a Western toilet, it's hard to come home. In a pristine, quiet and privately enclosed space, complete with purse hook, bench and a gently warmed seat, they have built-in front and back bidets controlled at the touch of a button (like a car wash) and, for the toilet-timid, sound effects like faux-flushing, birdsong or chimes summoned with a wave of the hand.

Western public toilets and their grimy bathroom stalls now fill me with dread.

I'm not really all about putting one side down and propping up the other, but this is an amusing look at what city life is like on the other side of the pond. 🙂
 
i agree with most everything on the list.

however, in tokyo, the trains stop running at midnite or 1am, and the last train outta the city is a freaking sardine can.

the thing about the cell phone is totally true. EVERYONE texts over there...its only recently that the western world has caught on to texting i think.

oh and the vending machines...MY GOD I LOVE those vending machines
 
Those vending machines are a life saver. While we were exploring Kyoto, my friend and I drank so much water/juice/whatever because there was always a convenient vending machine around. If we hadn't, we'd probably have been severely dehydrated in the hot and muggy weather. I miss a lot of the conveniences of Japanese life, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate my spacious living accommodations here. Oh, and the fact that you have to get a second mortgage just to eat fresh fruit is kind of sad 😛. But the tsukiji fish market...omg...
 
Lame. It loves that the Japanese are obsessed about being on time and quiet. Hooray. FYI Asian people are smaller, so clothing sizes are smaller. Regardless of eating habits, westerners are simply larger on average.

The toilets and vending machines I can appreciate. Personally, I hate when things are always individually wrapped. Seems like a waste to me.
 
Originally posted by: HammerCurl
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I hear that you can also buy used panties from the vending machines if you're into that sort of thing.

But they max out at a size 6!? :thumbsdown:

Fat bottomed girls apparently do NOT make Tokyo's rockin' world go round 🙂
 
WTF

1) in Tokyo you can get lost in the crowd pretty easily....most hold on to their friends. There is no personal space on the commuter trains usually.

2) In any picture/video/in person display of Tokyo seeing people on cells whether texting, looking up the train schedule or talking is extremely frequent.

3) See #1...it's punctual but you are much like a sardine.

4) They are big on this...like their toilets and a/c units. Even their hairdryers and vacuums are much quieter than US counterparts, mostly because they aren't looking for the cheapest product though. The Japanese will pay for quality. Many Americans expect it for the same price or less than an inferior product.

5) This was sort of two issues...those that cover up with colds are common but it's not 100%. In Japan it's not a problem to call out someone who is rude, being inconsiderate and the like. In American you are likely to be sued over it.

6) The Japanese women have grown an inch on average to their bust/hips and waist over the last few years. Mostly due to american food becoming popular. Also it's a lot to do with their genetics. There are very fat Japanese women and men, they get clothing with no problem. Many go to Korea to shop anyway.

7) Same here in our big cities. People try to compare CowTown USA with Manhattan a lot of times miserably.

8) While those toilets exist it's also common to find what amounts to a urinal in ground to squat over. They usually do give you something to hold on to though...many times you don't get any wall around you though.

What happens is Westerners hit the western hot spots that cater to them...they don't venture off the beaten path. Many people think Jamaica is wonderful because of the Atlantis resort. Travel off the beaten path there and things get very scary for most people.

Tokyo is a great place, but most of that has to do with the Japanese are not so self-centered as americans.
 
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
i agree with most everything on the list.

however, in tokyo, the trains stop running at midnite or 1am, and the last train outta the city is a freaking sardine can.

the thing about the cell phone is totally true. EVERYONE texts over there...its only recently that the western world has caught on to texting i think.

oh and the vending machines...MY GOD I LOVE those vending machines

can someone please explain why you buy a TELEPHONE so you can text?
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
i agree with most everything on the list.

however, in tokyo, the trains stop running at midnite or 1am, and the last train outta the city is a freaking sardine can.

the thing about the cell phone is totally true. EVERYONE texts over there...its only recently that the western world has caught on to texting i think.

oh and the vending machines...MY GOD I LOVE those vending machines

can someone please explain why you buy a TELEPHONE so you can text?

OMG RU seriS? ur N/C unl u uz txt msgN
 
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: michaels
I wonder if people in Japan despise all the nerdy and weird Japanophiles.

would be ironic, but its prolly true.


i doubt it. the japanese people on average are quite immature by our standards. note the 30-40 something businessmen openly reading manga and porn on public transit, playing their video games..etc

EDIT: oh, and they're also Emo. Anyone aware of the mass anonymous suicide fetish over there? Bizarre and ridiculous....
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
i agree with most everything on the list.

however, in tokyo, the trains stop running at midnite or 1am, and the last train outta the city is a freaking sardine can.

the thing about the cell phone is totally true. EVERYONE texts over there...its only recently that the western world has caught on to texting i think.

oh and the vending machines...MY GOD I LOVE those vending machines

can someone please explain why you buy a TELEPHONE so you can text?

because we dont wanna hear about how you slept with some dude you met at the club last night and cant remember his name
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
i agree with most everything on the list.

however, in tokyo, the trains stop running at midnite or 1am, and the last train outta the city is a freaking sardine can.

the thing about the cell phone is totally true. EVERYONE texts over there...its only recently that the western world has caught on to texting i think.

oh and the vending machines...MY GOD I LOVE those vending machines

can someone please explain why you buy a TELEPHONE so you can text?

u sk at lf
 
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