EIGHT Megapixel Digital Cameras Already!?

[Koing]

Originally posted by: kroq

Originally posted by: ndee
MPixel doesn't matter. It's all about the objective and the sensor itself. I'd rather have the Canon Rebel 300D with 6MPixel instead of the Sony F828 8MPixel. They have some nasty color thingies on some edges.

WELL SAID. I'd stay away from Sonys unless you are just taking everyday pictures.

wtf?

You obviously haven't heard of the Sony F717 then have you? Many rate it as the best pro sumer 5mp camera out there...

You got to remember the 300D you have to get a pricey lense to match the F828 or even the lense on the F717.

But the 300D is much faster then anything that isn't DSLR.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan


hahahah zimu = teh wetalld!

What the hell does that mean in non-733t speak?

say it outloud to yourself. it makes sense if you have a brain.

edit: never heard the joke where you get someone to read what you wrote on a piece of paper really fast? the paper reads "i am sofa king we tall did" so when they read it outloud it sounds like "im so fvcking retarded (wetalldid)."

 

[Arcturian]

Originally posted by: pulse8
http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article1.asp?datePublish=2004/03/15&pages=A8&seq=51

Your linking skills suck.

Your living skills suck

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Arcturian

Originally posted by: pulse8
http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article1.asp?datePublish=2004/03/15&pages=A8&seq=51

Your linking skills suck.

Your living skills suck

Your comeback skills suck.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: DeRusto
i think it means 'the retard' if you try to say it with your tongue sticking out

precisely

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: kroq


WELL SAID. I'd stay away from Sonys unless you are just taking everyday pictures.

Sony cameras tend to have some of the nicest image quality out there, and their hologram AF-assist technology is unparalleled. I still would tend to shy away from them because I resent the Memory Stick, but in general they make great cameras that are suitable for all uses, not just "everyday pictures."

The 828 and its CCD have generated some bad press, but that is not really Sony's fault per se IMO - it is just a function of cramming more and more pixels into a tiny CCD.

http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/sonydscf828_samples/originals/040106-0058-39.jpg

can you say that again please?

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: kroq

Originally posted by: ndee
MPixel doesn't matter. It's all about the objective and the sensor itself. I'd rather have the Canon Rebel 300D with 6MPixel instead of the Sony F828 8MPixel. They have some nasty color thingies on some edges.

WELL SAID. I'd stay away from Sonys unless you are just taking everyday pictures.

wtf?

You obviously haven't heard of the Sony F717 then have you? Many rate it as the best pro sumer 5mp camera out there...

You got to remember the 300D you have to get a pricey lense to match the F828 or even the lense on the F717.

But the 300D is much faster then anything that isn't DSLR.

I'm just saying. MPixel doesn't matter. Take a look at http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/sonydscf828_samples/originals/040106-0058-39.jpg and tell me if you can see those nasty color thingies on the left side or not. In German, we call it "color displacment".

 

[kyutip]

So far, all 8MP cams show higher noise, more prone to PF/CA than 5MP cam.
Cramming more MP to small CCD is not the way to get better quality picture.
I hope all of 8MP cam does not sell as much as they want so they will be force to improve image quality rather then MP race.

I'd sooner get a DLSR than those 8MP cam. Can't wait for Nikon D70.

 

[atom]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: kroq

Originally posted by: ndee
MPixel doesn't matter. It's all about the objective and the sensor itself. I'd rather have the Canon Rebel 300D with 6MPixel instead of the Sony F828 8MPixel. They have some nasty color thingies on some edges.

WELL SAID. I'd stay away from Sonys unless you are just taking everyday pictures.

wtf?

You obviously haven't heard of the Sony F717 then have you? Many rate it as the best pro sumer 5mp camera out there...

You got to remember the 300D you have to get a pricey lense to match the F828 or even the lense on the F717.

But the 300D is much faster then anything that isn't DSLR.

I'm just saying. MPixel doesn't matter. Take a look at http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/sonydscf828_samples/originals/040106-0058-39.jpg and tell me if you can see those nasty color thingies on the left side or not. In German, we call it "color displacment".

All those samples show is that the implementation is not that great. MPixels still matter. A higher MPixel sensor will be able to capture more raw data, period.

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: atom

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: kroq

Originally posted by: ndee
MPixel doesn't matter. It's all about the objective and the sensor itself. I'd rather have the Canon Rebel 300D with 6MPixel instead of the Sony F828 8MPixel. They have some nasty color thingies on some edges.

WELL SAID. I'd stay away from Sonys unless you are just taking everyday pictures.

wtf?

You obviously haven't heard of the Sony F717 then have you? Many rate it as the best pro sumer 5mp camera out there...

You got to remember the 300D you have to get a pricey lense to match the F828 or even the lense on the F717.

But the 300D is much faster then anything that isn't DSLR.

I'm just saying. MPixel doesn't matter. Take a look at http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/sonydscf828_samples/originals/040106-0058-39.jpg and tell me if you can see those nasty color thingies on the left side or not. In German, we call it "color displacment".

All those samples show is that the implementation is not that great. MPixels still matter. A higher MPixel sensor will be able to capture more raw data, period.

Yeah, if you have a perfect 8Mpixel sensor and a perfect 6Mpixel sensor, that's true but we don't life in a perfect world. If it captures more grainy-ness and less quality, why would you want that? I rather have a perfect picture(quality-wise) at 3MPixel then a so-so at 8MPixel but that's just me.

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: deejayshakur
11mp... not too surprised. after all, they got 12x sata dvd burners already.

lol

 

[phantom309]

Originally posted by: kyutip
So far, all 8MP cams show higher noise, more prone to PF/CA than 5MP cam.
Cramming more MP to small CCD is not the way to get better quality picture.
I hope all of 8MP cam does not sell as much as they want so they will be force to improve image quality rather then MP race.

I'd sooner get a DLSR than those 8MP cam. Can't wait for Nikon D70.

Yes. Above 6MP, noise is a much more important factor than resolution.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

say it outloud to yourself. it makes sense if you have a brain.

edit: never heard the joke where you get someone to read what you wrote on a piece of paper really fast? the paper reads "i am sofa king we tall did" so when they read it outloud it sounds like "im so fvcking retarded (wetalldid)."

Gee, how could I have missed that? It really is crystal-clear!

Why the hell people feel compelled to use "teh intarweb 51an6" is as much a mystery to me as the idols on Easter Island.

 

[thraxes]

The problem with a higher pixelcount on a CCD the same size of a chip with smaller pixel count is simple physics: Each sensor cell suddenly has less light to work with, that means output levels have to be raised a notch which in turn induces graininess. To avoid this either the lens or the CCD has to be larger to compensate for the less light. Enlarging the lens is cheaper and more effective, unfortunately that also means making the camera quite large. Pocket cameras have already reached their maximum reolution with 4-5 MPx. Sure you could throw better CCDs in them but low level physics are already at their limit, you will get a higher resolution but won't gain any detail due to the size of the lenses.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: zimu

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I can't wait for the Microtek "27 Megapixel (interpolated)!!!" camera with "52x zoom (2x optical, 50x digital)" for $99.99.

that zoom sucks. i would never use digital, and the optical SUCKS. for such a crazy camera?

plus, if its 2x optical and 50x digital, the total zoom would be 100x if i'm not mistaken.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you your idiot:

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: thraxes
The problem with a higher pixelcount on a CCD the same size of a chip with smaller pixel count is simple physics: Each sensor cell suddenly has less light to work with, that means output levels have to be raised a notch which in turn induces graininess. To avoid this either the lens or the CCD has to be larger to compensate for the less light. Enlarging the lens is cheaper and more effective, unfortunately that also means making the camera quite large. Pocket cameras have already reached their maximum reolution with 4-5 MPx. Sure you could throw better CCDs in them but low level physics are already at their limit, you will get a higher resolution but won't gain any detail due to the size of the lenses.

How right my Secret Santa is

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

say it outloud to yourself. it makes sense if you have a brain.

edit: never heard the joke where you get someone to read what you wrote on a piece of paper really fast? the paper reads "i am sofa king we tall did" so when they read it outloud it sounds like "im so fvcking retarded (wetalldid)."

Gee, how could I have missed that? It really is crystal-clear!

Why the hell people feel compelled to use "teh intarweb 51an6" is as much a mystery to me as the idols on Easter Island.

because not everyone is uptight and has a plunger up their ass? some people like to be out of the ordinary...you know, joke around and have fun sometimes. you should try it tightwad.

 

[Freejack2]

If I had $1000, the one camera I would pick without hesitation is the Canon Eos Digital Rebel. The pictures on Steves Digicams from that camera are simply beautiful.
Sounds like most of these 8mpixel cameras can't hold a candle to it.

 

[beatle]

Originally posted by: zimu

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I can't wait for the Microtek "27 Megapixel (interpolated)!!!" camera with "52x zoom (2x optical, 50x digital)" for $99.99.

that zoom sucks. i would never use digital, and the optical SUCKS. for such a crazy camera?

plus, if its 2x optical and 50x digital, the total zoom would be 100x if i'm not mistaken.

WOOSH!

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: kyutip
I'd sooner get a DLSR than those 8MP cam. Can't wait for Nikon D70.

I've already decided to get that camera. All of the previews say great things about it, and the extra $300 over the Digital Rebel seems very justified. Unless the fullblown reviews come out very poorly that camera is as good as bought.

I've even oredered a Muvo2 from Amazon for the 4GB microdrive.

 

[Sid59]

go D70 .. only a matter of time.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: beatle

Originally posted by: zimu

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
I can't wait for the Microtek "27 Megapixel (interpolated)!!!" camera with "52x zoom (2x optical, 50x digital)" for $99.99.

that zoom sucks. i would never use digital, and the optical SUCKS. for such a crazy camera?

plus, if its 2x optical and 50x digital, the total zoom would be 100x if i'm not mistaken.

WOOSH!

Got any hair left?