Eh what the hell...UPDATED WITH CARD IN COMPUTER

[johnannie]

"Whether or not you tell the truth is something you'll have to live with. "
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I'm sorry, but Rollo, you really need to get off of your Holier Than Thou High horse and find a new forum. This forum is about helping other people, not annoying them. I'm sure that you can find another forum based on basic judaeo/christian morals and values that might suit you better. On the other hand, if you have something useful to say that is not so damn condescending I'm sure everyone would appreciate reading it.

 

[aerasal]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: aerasal
but the temperature dropped at those speeds. that was honestly the only reason i had it at those speeds. i only knew this from reading from this forum. i thought the card running at lower temps would be healthier.

I'm not disagreeing with you, or saying I wouldn't have done the same, but it seems odd the temperature dropped at a higher speed?

Temperature rises with frequency on chips, so what your saying violates the laws of physics?

eVGA may buy it, but they may say you voided your warranty by running your card out of spec. The people on these forums do lots of things that void their warranties, myself included.

The key point here is that some of us either don't RMA at all when we void our warranties, or at worst tell the company what we did when trying to RMA.

The thieves are the ones who void their warranties and lie to RMA. In your case that would be omitting the fact that you ran the core almost 10% above spec.

Your only decision is whether $325 is worth stealing from eVGA to you; whether your honor can be bought for $325.

Good luck with it. If $325 is a lot of money to you, it's a hard decision not to steal it from a big company you perceive as having plenty.

haven't you read this thread? i have no idea why the temp would drop at 350/1100 and i even asked in this thread (i think, but i didn't get a response). i just saw everyone saying they had temp drops at 350/1100, so i did this, and the temp did actually drop! so i left it like this. (why would i want a speed that increases temperature?) i remember hearing things like "this card isn't meant is be run at 325/1100" and "the card is bugged at 325" and things like that.

i also really doubt, unless the card is bad, that a 25 mhz increase in core speed would cause a perfectly good card to go bad within 3 weeks. look at the bfg cards. plus, i always kept an eye on the temperatures. i even googled "normal temps" for gts and ultras, and my card was always running at lower temps. now if the bios is bad and giving me incorrect temperatures, i would think that is evga's fault, and not mine.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: johnannie


"Whether or not you tell the truth is something you'll have to live with. "
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I'm sorry, but Rollo, you really need to get off of your Holier Than Thou High horse and find a new forum. This forum is about helping other people, not annoying them. I'm sure that you can find another forum based on basic judaeo/christian morals and values that might suit you better. On the other hand, if you have something useful to say that is not so damn condescending I'm sure everyone would appreciate reading it.

I think you'll find LOTS of people in this forum agree with me on this topic, Mr. 40 posts.

I've had many of them PM me and thank me for sending the names of people trying to fraudulently RMA merchandise to vendors.

The people here realize that this sort of thing costs us all, and is theft.

You'd never find me in a church, so don't bring that into it. My parents taught me right from wrong, I believe in noblesse oblige', and if you believe in theft and fraud perhaps you should find another forum where people lie and cheat for petty gains.

 

[johnannie]

There you go again Mr. "I've got nothing better to do" 3792 posts. You are a jackass.

 

[Killrose]

How do we know for sure this is a core problem? This could be a ram problem or a problem with something else on the board. There are a hell of a lot of components on these cards, probably a hundred that could fail and cause this sort of problem. And not a single one which would be affected by running the Core at 350MHz.

 

[johnannie]

I think that I remember someone having a problem with a capacitor breaking off or shorting out. If you are constantly moving things around in your case, it's highly likly that you could damage any number of things ...not just the vid card.

Also, if his core is fried, it will be the first one that has been posted in this forum. (I think) All other recent complaints have been about cards not able to run properly at stock speeds.

I don't know how many of these LE's were made but I am guessing that there were at least 600. I bet most of the buyers are enjoying them in HL2 right now. I do think that these are geat cards, but there are a few that were bad from the start.

 

[Zahriya]

I think it is a ram problem. Whenever I used to get artifiacts, id lower my ram speeds and the card would start working again. Could the ram chips just be getting to hot for some reason? Ever since I reinstalled my silencer everything seems to be fine.

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

Originally posted by: Rollo

I think you'll find LOTS of people in this forum agree with me on this topic, Mr. 40 posts.

I've had many of them PM me and thank me for sending the names of people trying to fraudulently RMA merchandise to vendors.

The people here realize that this sort of thing costs us all, and is theft.

You'd never find me in a church, so don't bring that into it. My parents taught me right from wrong, I believe in noblesse oblige', and if you believe in theft and fraud perhaps you should find another forum where people lie and cheat for petty gains.

User Rating: -13,329.49
No of votes: 75

clearly LOTS of people in this forum agree...

your killing this thread, please take your self justified vigilante justice elsewhere. try appling it to something useful like a soup kitchen or shelter.

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

the core is pretty straight forward, either it works or it doesn't. however, the supporting components that MAKE the core work might have gotten fried. but that wouldn't be attributed to the extra 25mhz.

its probably a PCB problem. try the card in another PC, it might be something silly like its not getting enough power or something. if not get eVGA on the phone to help you troubleshoot it.

 

[aerasal]

thanks for the help guys. i just wanted to add that i don't appreciate rollo telling me i'm stealing from evga right off the bat.

 

[aerasal]

Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
the core is pretty straight forward, either it works or it doesn't. however, the supporting components that MAKE the core work might have gotten fried. but that wouldn't be attributed to the extra 25mhz.

its probably a PCB problem. try the card in another PC, it might be something silly like its not getting enough power or something. if not get eVGA on the phone to help you troubleshoot it.

does the same thing in other pcs

 

[aerasal]

one more thing. my screen goes completely nuts at random, though it seems to have gotten worse over the day. after the first time it happened, i turned the comp off for a few mins, turned it back on, and played half life 2 for like 2 hours before it started doing it again. after that, i went ahead and turned my comp off all night. when i started it up this morning, it ran fine for about 5 mins before i started having problems again.

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

sounds a lot like its heat, how cramped is your computer,good airflow? try opening your case.

 

[aerasal]

Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
sounds a lot like its heat, how cramped is your computer,good airflow? try opening your case.

i thought that might be it at first, but this morning, after having my comp off all night, the card started having issues almost immediately, before any coponent had a chance to get hot. my room was also really cold

 

[Killrose]

"thought that might be it at first, but this morning, after having my comp off all night, the card started having issues almost immediately, before any coponent had a chance to get hot. my room was also really cold"

If you re-boot, does it go away? for awhile at least?

 

[Solarflare]

I don't know if this will help you, but it seemed to work wonders for me... Contrary to popular opinion, by setting my 2D speeds in parallel, all my games have ceased to crash and/or freeze for seconds at a time.

~Just my two cents~

 

[aerasal]

i just now tried to put the card back into my comp to see what would happen, and right after i turned the computer on the screen was all blurred and screwed up.

 

[Zahriya]

Originally posted by: Solarflare
I don't know if this will help you, but it seemed to work wonders for me... Contrary to popular opinion, by setting my 2D speeds in parallel, all my games have ceased to crash and/or freeze for seconds at a time.

~Just my two cents~

I read that somewhere on another forum, but with another card. That setting the 2d settings as the same with 3d will eliminate problems such as artifacts. I'll give it a try to see if it fixes my issues WHEN they reappear. Thanks for input.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: aerasal
thanks for the help guys. i just wanted to add that i don't appreciate rollo telling me i'm stealing from evga right off the bat.

Of course, I never did tell you that you're stealing, only that you would be if you don't tell eVGA you were running the part out of spec, but why confuse the issue with facts when you can whine?
:roll:

I told you the truth: You can tell eVGA you were OCing the card when you attempt to RMA, or you can commit fraud/theft.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: johnannie
There you go again Mr. "I've got nothing better to do" 3792 posts. You are a jackass.

I'd rather be a jackass and right, than a dumbass who's wrong?

He's OCing his video card, which voids his warranty. If he doesn't tell eVGA when he RMAs, he's a thief.

Too hard for you to grasp?

As far as "helping" goes, what are you "helping" him to do? Feel better about selling his honor for 325 piddly dollars? I wonder how much I could buy yours for? A hundred? two?

Pathetic.

 

[JasonandBecky]

I told you the truth: You can tell eVGA you were OCing the card when you attempt to RMA, or you can commit fraud/theft.

Or you could do some research and find out EVGA made mistakes with the BIOS and has a corrected version out now for people.

The original BIOS was fubar. Temps WOULD drop when you raised it to 350.

EVGA also sent out many cards with a BIOS clock setting for the WRONG CARD.

Many of these cards were shipped having problems right away due to mistakes in the BIOS from EVGA. EVGA knows this and thats why they have a correct BIOS for people now. Accusing people of theft because they are trying to get a DEFECTIVE card to run properly is idiotic.

 

[Lantano]

Originally posted by: aerasal
i just now tried to put the card back into my comp to see what would happen, and right after i turned the computer on the screen was all blurred and screwed up.

Get ready for a dead vid card dude.....

Same thing happened to my eVGA 6800 LE, I had it flashed to the Thugsrook 6800 U 1.4V Bios and it ran fine for 2 weeks at 400/1100 3D and 350/1100 2D. The card started losing monitor settings on every boot resetting to 60 Hz. Next was random lock ups in games and then it froze on a OpenGL screensaver with the temp at 54C. After that I was getting a lot of artifacts in 2d on boot up and then finally no video out at all. I sent mine back to NewEgg and should find out this week what they will do.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: JasonandBecky

I told you the truth: You can tell eVGA you were OCing the card when you attempt to RMA, or you can commit fraud/theft.

Or you could do some research and find out EVGA made mistakes with the BIOS and has a corrected version out now for people.

The original BIOS was fubar. Temps WOULD drop when you raised it to 350.

EVGA also sent out many cards with a BIOS clock setting for the WRONG CARD.

Many of these cards were shipped having problems right away due to mistakes in the BIOS from EVGA. EVGA knows this and thats why they have a correct BIOS for people now. Accusing people of theft because they are trying to get a DEFECTIVE card to run properly is idiotic.

I guess he has nothing to worry about being honest with eVGA about running it at 350/1100, then does he?

And again, as you are apparently slow as well, can you quote where I accused him of theft? Didn't think so, because I didn't do it?

There's a difference between telling someone they will be a thief if they do something that would make them a thief, and accusing them of being a thief?

Am I giving you too much to take in here?

 

[aerasal]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: JasonandBecky

I told you the truth: You can tell eVGA you were OCing the card when you attempt to RMA, or you can commit fraud/theft.

Or you could do some research and find out EVGA made mistakes with the BIOS and has a corrected version out now for people.

The original BIOS was fubar. Temps WOULD drop when you raised it to 350.

EVGA also sent out many cards with a BIOS clock setting for the WRONG CARD.

Many of these cards were shipped having problems right away due to mistakes in the BIOS from EVGA. EVGA knows this and thats why they have a correct BIOS for people now. Accusing people of theft because they are trying to get a DEFECTIVE card to run properly is idiotic.

I guess he has nothing to worry about being honest with eVGA about running it at 350/1100, then does he?

And again, as you are apparently slow as well, can you quote where I accused him of theft? Didn't think so, because I didn't do it?

There's a difference between telling someone they will be a thief if they do something that would make them a thief, and accusing them of being a thief?

Am I giving you too much to take in here?

no, this is not true. being a thief isn't as black and white as you make it out to be. i have no experience with evga's techinical support right now, but i know that a lot of other companies have people in India that you can't understand that have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. i don't want to get on the phone with someone like this, tell them i oced the card and have them immediately tell me there's nothing they will do before knowing the full situation. i do not feel i did anything to this card to cause it to stop working. the temperatures did infact drop when i changed the core settings and i always watched the temperatures to make sure they stayed cool. despite this, the card still died. if i fail to mention i was ocing it a little bit, i think it's just.

no, you didn't flat out accuse me of theft, but before knowing anything about the situation, you're telling me how i'm going to be a thief the rest of my life if i try to rma this card in anyway. which i think is pretty ignorant.

 

[Zendeath]

Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy

Originally posted by: Rollo

I think you'll find LOTS of people in this forum agree with me on this topic, Mr. 40 posts.

I've had many of them PM me and thank me for sending the names of people trying to fraudulently RMA merchandise to vendors.

The people here realize that this sort of thing costs us all, and is theft.

You'd never find me in a church, so don't bring that into it. My parents taught me right from wrong, I believe in noblesse oblige', and if you believe in theft and fraud perhaps you should find another forum where people lie and cheat for petty gains.

User Rating: -13,329.49
No of votes: 75

clearly LOTS of people in this forum agree...

your killing this thread, please take your self justified vigilante justice elsewhere. try appling it to something useful like a soup kitchen or shelter.

LOL
:beer: