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Egypt and the United States

Aimster

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SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Thursday, December 22, 2004
Egypt has become the largest military client of the United States.

The Congressional Research Service said in a report that Egypt has ordered more defense equipment and platforms from the United States than any other country. CRS, in a report issued on Dec. 8, said Egypt led in nearly every category of military purchases from 1996 until 2003.

In all, the report said, Egypt ordered $13.7 billion in weaponry from 1996 to 2003, far more than any other country during that period. The report said Egypt has replaced Saudi Arabia as the leading military client of Washington.

Egypt has financed the purchase of military platforms, upgrades and weaponry through its $1.3 billion in annual U.S. military aid, Middle East Newsline reported. Egypt receives the second largest military aid package from the United States. The leading recipient is Israel, which obtains more than $2.2 billion in annual U.S. defense assistance.

The report, entitled "U.S.Arms Sales: Agreements with and Deliveries to Major Clients,1996-2003," asserted that Egypt has replaced Saudi Arabia as the leading importer of U.S. weapons. The United Arab Emirates was also cited as a leading military client of Washington. Neither Saudi Arabia nor the UAE receives U.S. military financial aid.

Authored by defense specialist Richard Grimmett, the report identified the leading purchasers of U.S. weaponry from 1996 to 2003. Under U.S. law, American companies with commercial licenses issued by the State Department are not required to report arms sales agreements with foreign purchasers.

From 1996 to 1999, Egypt led in military orders from the United States with $5.8 billion, the report said. Saudi Arabia followed Egypt, with $4.6 billion and Israel was said to have ordered $4.3 billion.

In 2000, the United Arab Emirates replaced Egypt as the leading purchaser of U.S. weapons. Abu Dhabi ordered $7.1 billion in weapons from 2000 until 2003. The purchase figure for the UAE was based on the $6.4 billion contract for 80 F-16 E/F Block 60 fighters in 2000.

From 2000 to 2003, Egypt recorded $6.2 billion in military orders, followed by Israel with $5.1 billion and Saudi Arabia with $2.7 billion. The report said Kuwait ordered $1.7 billion in military equipment during that period.

In 2003, Egypt returned as the leading military client of the United States. The report said Egypt ordered $1.7 billion in weaponry, with Saudi Arabia in second place with $700 million. Israel and Jordan followed with $580 million and $330 million respectively.

The report did not identify the equipment ordered by Egypt or any other foreign client of the United States. But a review of Egyptian arms deals approved by Congress over the last five years include the sale of F-16 multi-role fighters, M1A1 main battle tanks, armored personnel carrier, anti-aircraft systems, AH-64D Apache Longbow attack helicopters, Black Hawk utility helicopters and upgrades for airborne early-warning aircraft and cargo helicopters.

Saudi Arabia, however, remained the leader in the amount of U.S. weaponry delivered from 1996 to 2003. Riyad received $16.6 billion in weapons from 1996 to 1999, followed by Israel with $3.6 billion and Egypt with $3.1 billion.

From 2000 until 2003, Saudi Arabia received $6.3 billion in weapons, the report said. Egypt followed with $4.7 billion and Israel with $2.9 billion. Kuwait and Bahrain received deliveries of $1.1 billion and $590 million, respectively.

In 2003, Egypt and Saudi Arabia received $1.2 billion in weapons each, reflecting the acceleration of Egyptian military orders and the slowdown in new purchases by Riyad. Israel and Kuwait followed with $920 million and $160 million in U.S. arms deliveries.

The report also reported the emergence of Greece as a leading military client of the United States. From 1996 until 1999, Greece ordered $1.4 billion in weapons, while its neighbor and rival, Turkey, ordered $1.2 billion of military equipment.

From 2000 until 2003, Greece ordered $3.3 billion in U.S. weaponry while Turkey ordered $1.3 billion.
 
This should also be an interesting point about the amount of aid the U.S gives to Israel and the Arab nations.

I don't understand why people say Israel is really close to the U.S when the U.S gives way more aid to Arab countries (combined) and more military equipment.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
I don't understand why people say Israel is really close to the U.S when the U.S gives way more aid to Arab countries (combined) and more military equipment.

I'll tell you why: it's easy to blame/throw it on the Jews! *Edit: just to make it clear, I am refering mainly to so many threads here bitching about US aid to Israel while ignoring the greater aid given to Arab nations, hostile to Israel.*

Also, have you asked yourself why would Egypt need a massive army?

I mean, it is the most powerful in Africa and has no "hostile" nation sharing border with it except... Israel. the so-called peace between Israel and Egypt is, unfortunately, nothing but a paper document. the reasons for its creation are mainly economical and political. In fact - and much to Israel's surprise - it is the educated circles in Egypt that are spreading anti-jewish propoganda across their country. the Egyptian army is trained to face the IDF and those American weapons will be used against Israel if a war was to take place between Israel and Egypt right now.
 
Originally posted by: Trente
Originally posted by: Aimster
I don't understand why people say Israel is really close to the U.S when the U.S gives way more aid to Arab countries (combined) and more military equipment.

I'll tell you why: it's easy to blame/throw it on the Jews! *Edit: just to make it clear, I am refering mainly to so many threads here bitching about US aid to Israel while ignoring the greater aid given to Arab nations, hostile to Israel.*

Also, have you asked yourself why would Egypt need a massive army?

I mean, it is the most powerful in Africa and has no "hostile" nation sharing border with it except... Israel. the so-called peace between Israel and Egypt is, unfortunately, nothing but a paper document. the reasons for its creation are mainly economical and political. In fact - and much to Israel's surprise - it is the educated circles in Egypt that are spreading anti-jewish propoganda across their country. the Egyptian army is trained to face the IDF and those American weapons will be used against Israel if a war was to take place between Israel and Egypt right now.

It has nothing to do with "Jews". Does Saudi Arabia or Egypt control Territories of others that they are trying to Settle and take from the Occupants? That's why Israel's "Aid" is an issue.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Trente
Originally posted by: Aimster
I don't understand why people say Israel is really close to the U.S when the U.S gives way more aid to Arab countries (combined) and more military equipment.

I'll tell you why: it's easy to blame/throw it on the Jews! *Edit: just to make it clear, I am refering mainly to so many threads here bitching about US aid to Israel while ignoring the greater aid given to Arab nations, hostile to Israel.*

Also, have you asked yourself why would Egypt need a massive army?

I mean, it is the most powerful in Africa and has no "hostile" nation sharing border with it except... Israel. the so-called peace between Israel and Egypt is, unfortunately, nothing but a paper document. the reasons for its creation are mainly economical and political. In fact - and much to Israel's surprise - it is the educated circles in Egypt that are spreading anti-jewish propoganda across their country. the Egyptian army is trained to face the IDF and those American weapons will be used against Israel if a war was to take place between Israel and Egypt right now.

It has nothing to do with "Jews". Does Saudi Arabia or Egypt control Territories of others that they are trying to Settle and take from the Occupants? That's why Israel's "Aid" is an issue.

More than a few of the Arab nations who are recieving aid from America also harbor terrorism. Egypst and Saudi Arabia are 150 times bigger than Israel. Israel has taken actions over the years, that pale next to what Arab nations have done. I know, two wrongs don't make a right one, but you do have to realize that many Israelis including myself are against settlements! I wonder what would have happen if Israel did go back to 1967 borders; I wonder if you'd still be mentioning the aid given to the only true democracy in the ME, while ignoring the far greater aid given to the very nations who more than once wanted to wipe Israel off the map and find the thought of a world without Israel pleasing to say the least.
 
find my a country that doesn't harbor "terrorists" and i'll give you nice shiny imaginary nickel.

edit: on the OP i thought that columbia was #1 in the late 90's, but that might have been military aid, and not weapons sales.
 
Egypt needs a larger army because they are neighbors with Israel who has a large army. These nations don't spend that much of their GDP on military. They spend what every nation spends percent wise. The only reason they get more military equipment is because the U.S is giving them aid for military gear. Is this not correct?

Also if anyone attacks anyone in that region they will lose. As long as their weapons are U.S made then the U.S can control the situation in that area. Egypt and Saudi Arabia will not attack Israel in the near future. Their people might be against Israel, but the governments are not doing anything to stir up a war with Israel.

Arab nations don't get along. When Saddam invaded Kuwait I think Saudi Arabia invested more on their military because that opened up their eyes.

Country Green is next to country Blue. Country Green has a superior military. Country Blue will match that military.

Look back to Russia/U.S during the cold war. Look at China's military. Turkey and Greece both have outstanding airforces (I think Greece is better?). France is upgrading it's navy and is building new weapons, but they are not at war.

 
in a recent report, it said South Korea was US top arms buyer. Egypt was top arms buyer from 96-99.

Also, Turkey and Greece have average or better than average air forces, definately not outstanding.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
in a recent report, it said South Korea was US top arms buyer. Egypt was top arms buyer from 96-99.

Also, Turkey and Greece have average or better than average air forces, definately not outstanding.

Greece/Turkey rank on the top 10 list of world airforces. I would say Greece > Turkey.

Turkey's airforce is one of the best in the world.
http://www.airliners.net/searc...mp;distinct_entry=true

Turkey is very well equipped with the latest arms. They have 240 F-16C/D aircraft

Greece's air force
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article5.html
http://www.hellas.org/military/air_force/
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
I wonder why all these countries are stocking up...

Use it or lose it. Don't bite the hand that feeds you etc. This "military aid" is clearly good for the US military/industrial complex.
 
Originally posted by: Trente
More than a few of the Arab nations who are recieving aid from America also harbor terrorism. Egypst and Saudi Arabia are 150 times bigger than Israel. Israel has taken actions over the years, that pale next to what Arab nations have done. I know, two wrongs don't make a right one, but you do have to realize that many Israelis including myself are against settlements! I wonder what would have happen if Israel did go back to 1967 borders; I wonder if you'd still be mentioning the aid given to the only true democracy in the ME, while ignoring the far greater aid given to the very nations who more than once wanted to wipe Israel off the map and find the thought of a world without Israel pleasing to say the least.

There's a big contradiction to U.S. policy on terrorism. So we can denounce terrorism but we can still sell arms/weapons to it/them.:shocked:😕
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
I wonder why all these countries are stocking up...

you want some high quality gear to attack them american soldiers when the time comes, right...?
that old commi crap doesn't really work when you are up against the best....
 
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