Egypt Air plane goes missing over Mediterranean

[runzwithsizorz]

I'm not hear to be a judgmental prick or anything. But you do know they use HF radio for communication on long haul flights ?

Ah, I was wondering if someone would spot that, and bring it up, kudos to you sir, you are correct. Seems you're doing a bit of research before just spouting off. In aviation, HF communication systems are required for all trans-oceanic flights. These systems incorporate frequencies down to 2 MHz to include the 2182 kHz, these frequencies are usually used for international distress *signals* and not a calling channel, (though they could be). You may think otherwise, but ATC's world wide just do not have the staff to monitor 4 radios, and their frequencies.

 

[maddogchen]

Uh, they know where it went. There are chunks of it floating all over the Mediterranean.

they are searching a region, and it took them over a day to find floating debris. Now they have to try to backtrack currents to maybe an approximate location. If there was tracking, they would have had a narrower search area and not have lost so much time.

 

[John Connor]

Ah, I was wondering if someone would spot that, and bring it up, kudos to you sir, you are correct. Seems you're doing a bit of research before just spouting off. In aviation, HF communication systems are required for all trans-oceanic flights. These systems incorporate frequencies down to 2 MHz to include the 2182 kHz, these frequencies are usually used for international distress *signals* and not a calling channel, (though they could be). You may think otherwise, but ATC's world wide just do not have the staff to monitor 4 radios, and their frequencies.

Would you belive I can program a FMC in a 737NG? Learned from the PMDG 737 for FS. PMDG teamed up with Boeing to make this aircraft for the sim so it's pretty damn accurate. I think I have a YT clip of me programing in waypoints.

Ah! Here's the old video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AUTOYW-jH4

 

[Elixer]

there should be video cameras and microphones in the cabin and cockpit always recording and sending back to ATC. #screwprivacy

They will eventually end up doing this for all flights.

 

[LTC8K6]

A terrorist or suicidal pilot could simply disable the cameras and mics in any of several ways.

Data streaming costs money.

Even ACARS is not free to the airlines.

 

[BUTCH1]

A terrorist or suicidal pilot could simply disable the cameras and mics in any of several ways.

Data streaming costs money.

Even ACARS is not free to the airlines.

Yea, agree, if it's electrical than it has to be routed through a circuit breaker somewhere.

 

[John Connor]

Yea, agree, if it's electrical than it has to be routed through a circuit breaker somewhere.

Would you know what fuse to pull from the panel?

 

[LTC8K6]

Would you know what fuse to pull from the panel?

Pretty much everything a terrorist would need to know about any airliner is published online.

http://www.smartcockpit.com/plane/airbus/a320.html

 

[rh71]

Pretty much everything a terrorist would need to know about any airliner is published online.

http://www.smartcockpit.com/plane/airbus/a320.html

Don't do it, the feds will come knocking on your door if you click that guys.

 

[John Connor]

Pretty much everything a terrorist would need to know about any airliner is published online.

http://www.smartcockpit.com/plane/airbus/a320.html

I used that website to study every nook and cranny of the 737.

 

[John Connor]

Just looked at electrical and maintenance system and don't see the fuse panel layout.

 

[LTC8K6]

Just looked at electrical and maintenance system and don't see the fuse panel layout.

http://www.amevoice.com/document/182/airbus-a320-cb-list/

There is a list with locations.

Of course, if you are in the plane, the c/b panels are right there and labeled.

After all, the crew has to be able to quickly locate a particular one.

 

[lsd]

I used that website to study every nook and cranny of the 737.

There's a ton of information you do not have access to. Most circuit breakers on the 737 are located in the cockpit but there are plenty more the pilots have no access to in the EE bay.
The only a/c that had a cabin surveillance system I worked on everyone knew where the c/b was for the cameras and it was easily accessible by the pilots.

 

[LTC8K6]

some tape, or spray paint, or nail polish will eliminate any camera footage, too.

 

[Elixer]

some tape, or spray paint, or nail polish will eliminate any camera footage, too.

That is assuming they know where the lens is...and they aren't hidden.

 

[John Connor]

That's assuming they can get into the cockpit now that it's locked with a code. But there are issues I won't discuss here.

 

[Elixer]

All codes have overrides though, such as in the case where they took over the plane, and killed the pilots.

Now, they are saying they hear the blackbox ping, so, maybe they will have good luck.

A French naval vessel was en route to the eastern Mediterranean on Thursday to join the hunt for black boxes from a crashed EgyptAir jet, equipped with three specialist probes from a French company recruited to accelerate the search.

 

[K1052]

CVR indicates crew tried to put out fire, cause still unknown.

Audio from the flight deck voice recorder of EgyptAir MS804 indicates an attempt to put out a fire on board the jet before it crashed into the Mediterranean, sources on the investigation committee said on Tuesday.

The Airbus A320 plunged into the eastern Mediterranean en route from Paris to Cairo on May 19. All 66 people on board were killed. The cause of the crash remains unknown.

Earlier analysis of the plane's flight data recorder showed there had been smoke in the lavatory and avionics bay while recovered wreckage from the jet's front section showed signs of high temperature damage and soot.

The flight deck recorder, taken to Cairo this week after being repaired at laboratories belonging to France's BEA aircraft accident agency, further indicate that a fire took hold of the plane in its final moments, the sources said.

The recordings usually capture pilot conversations and any cockpit alarms, as well as clues such as engine noise.

Investigators are to conduct further analysis on the voices contained in the recordings and have not yet ruled out any possibilities as to what caused the crash, the sources said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-egyptair-airplane-idUSKCN0ZL1RT