EEP!!! The Feds are after me!!

[RemyCanad]

Originally posted by: Soybomb

Originally posted by: RemyCanad

Originally posted by: spidey07
Oh please...you whiney little beatches.

ISPs network. ISP chooses to cut off your account. end of story.

If you've got illegal stuff on your computer then face the consequences.

whiney little beatches.

Why the hell are you calling him a whiney little bitch? He has never said he was offering illegal stuff has he? (If he has never mind. )

If they cut off my account becuase someone told them I was offering up illegal stuff and I wasn't I would be pissed. But then I would go and check my contract to see if they can do that. I would bet they can...

The innocent don't "unshare the file" and begin reading about copyright law.

I'm just shocked he thinks there should be a warning on download sites. I thikn 99% of people that use such software know exactly what they're doing. Perhaps they're just downloading open source software and project guttenberg e-books, but I have doubts.

WARNING: This product may cause loss of control and rampant intellectual property theft.

Well then never mind my first statement. Looks like he was sharing some stuff.

If he was just downloading open source info then thats all he would be sharing out. I haven't used a programs such as that for at least 2 years. And even when I did I made sure the program was set to only share specific files... I agree there should be no warning. The acceptable use policy they accept when installing is enough.

 

[stash]

Many file sharing progs are available on cnet - direct connect, morpheus, kazaa, gnutella, etc. I didn't see any huge warnings about this kind of thing. Anyways, thanks for your input. Ill be more careful in the future.

They are called "file sharing programs" What kind of warning do you need? If you keep track of the news over the past few years, you would be aware of the many battles surrounding P2P programs such as Napster, Kazaa, et.al. If all that wasnt enough of a warning, then you could always go back and actually read your ISPs acceptable-use policy, which undoubtably contains a section on these programs and their use.

Here's the section from my ISPs (RR) policy:
The Road Runner service may not be used to upload, post, transmit or otherwise make available any materials or content that violate or infringe on the rights or dignity of others. These include, but are not limited to, materials infringing or compromising intellectual property rights or any party's ability to maintain trade secrets and other personal information as private; hate speech; threats of physical violence; harassing conduct; sexually oriented material that is offensive or inappropriate; and unsolicited bulk e-mail.

In addition to that, there is this warning:
Road Runner takes these issues very seriously and will enforce its rules to ensure enjoyment by all of its members. Road Runner therefore has reserved the right to remove any content posted to its system that it deems offensive, inappropriate or violative of its policies. It also reserves the right to suspend or cancel a subscriber's account for engaging in inappropriate conduct. (Subscribers, of course, also remain legally responsible for any such acts.)

 

[Jeff7]

Sort of a sidenote, it would be nice if the record companies would catch on that people want to get music NOW without leaving home. And they don't want to get ripped off in the process. I think it would be nice to be able to listen to a snip of a song, then if you like it, add it to an online shopping cart, then pay like 50 cents a song or something like that; not more than a dollar definitely; and then pay, then be given a "key" to download the song in a certian amount of time.

But seriously, some of these new copyright laws, and "anti-terrorism" laws are kind of scary in the power they give the government. If you want to be truly safe, go hang out with Dick Cheney.

 

[RemyCanad]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Sort of a sidenote, it would be nice if the record companies would catch on that people want to get music NOW without leaving home. And they don't want to get ripped off in the process. I think it would be nice to be able to listen to a snip of a song, then if you like it, add it to an online shopping cart, then pay like 50 cents a song or something like that; not more than a dollar definitely; and then pay, then be given a "key" to download the song in a certian amount of time.

But seriously, some of these new copyright laws, and "anti-terrorism" laws are kind of scary in the power they give the government. If you want to be truly safe, go hang out with Dick Cheney.

I bought about 50 times more CDs when I had napster. I have not bought a CD since... There are a few that I want but becuase I have not got to hear them and I don't wanna pay 16 dollars for them I am not going to buy them yet. I have bought a few CDs from some indi lables. And bought some cds through the internet.

I don't think I could stand to be in the same room with Dick Cheney for to long!

 

[stash]

There are a few that I want but becuase I have not got to hear them and I don't wanna pay 16 dollars for them I am not going to buy them yet

I'm not saying that $16.00 isnt too much for a CD of songs that you may only like a couple of, but thats why they have those listening stations at CD stores...."try before you buy"

 

[grrl]

I like Jeff7's idea. But the record companies and artists wouldn't be too keen on that idea because many would only get a dollar or two from customers who only want a few songs. It much better for the lables to sell an overpriced $16 CD with 6 songs on it you'll never listen to.

 

[everman]

So it sounds like you were sharing one specific file or file type that they didn't like...? Did a software company inform the ISP about this or what was it really?

 

[RemyCanad]

Originally posted by: grrl
I like Jeff7's idea. But the record companies and artists wouldn't be too keen on that idea because many would only get a dollar or two from customers who only want a few songs. It much better for the lables to sell an overpriced $16 CD with 6 songs on it you'll never listen to.

I don't buy a CD unless I like all of the songs on it. But thats not really a problem becuase the few bands I like, I like all their songs...

 

[rayster]

Originally posted by: grrl
I like Jeff7's idea. But the record companies and artists wouldn't be too keen on that idea because many would only get a dollar or two from customers who only want a few songs. It much better for the lables to sell an overpriced $16 CD with 6 songs on it you'll never listen to.

well, that's the problem isn't it? Once upon a time the record companies contributing something meaningful to the music industry by buying bulk vinyl, pressing records, and shipping them to stores. Now that an artist can deliver his or her music directly to the consumer record companies are an obsolete business that are abusing copyright laws to fleece both artists and the consumer. Internet music delivery and micropayments would be a perfectly viable business if you cut the record company out of the process all togather, and the average artist would make more money.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: rayster

Originally posted by: grrl
I like Jeff7's idea. But the record companies and artists wouldn't be too keen on that idea because many would only get a dollar or two from customers who only want a few songs. It much better for the lables to sell an overpriced $16 CD with 6 songs on it you'll never listen to.

well, that's the problem isn't it? Once upon a time the record companies contributing something meaningful to the music industry by buying bulk vinyl, pressing records, and shipping them to stores. Now that an artist can deliver his or her music directly to the consumer record companies are an obsolete business that are abusing copyright laws to fleece both artists and the consumer. Internet music delivery and micropayments would be a perfectly viable business if you cut the record company out of the process all togather, and the average artist would make more money.

Exactly. The record companies are scared, so they're blaming the [not as extensive as they make it out to be] piracy of their music for their lower profits (instead of their crappy music and the overall depressed economy). They're using that as an excuse to try to get Congress to pass laws to protect their profits. :disgust: