Eep... Just did a little research on a friends new job...

Savarak

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I heard a friend got a nice new job that would put them in position to being VP in 2 years, almost guarenteed... first as a representitive, then as a district manager, then regional manager, then regional vp... that perked my spidy-sense, so I went and did a little research on this company who gives such good oppurtunities to recent college grads with no concentration/experience at all in business, management, and financial matters. So I found this:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff10157.htm

Gist of the link: Primerica scours all these resume/job sites and gives job offers to just about anyone who passes an background check...

The "to-be employee" must pay $199 for some sort of fee(I think they say its a background checking fee and new employee processing fee), AND take a multitude of training classes, all of which MUST be paid for out of the "to-be employee"s pocket.

I did once earlier ask if it was the company paying for the training required for the job(and its with the same company doing the teaching)... she said no, out of her pocket... but at that time I didn't pursue it further cuz I didn't really catch onto it as a MLM scam until now.

I feel so sorry for her.......
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: Mike
Can I assume correctly that you let her know before running off to ATOT to tell us?

That, and it used to be A L Williams, a coach who turned insurance agent. That company was / is scum, with their undermining tactics, which have hurt legitimate companies, as well as misguiding people, who had good policies in place.

 

DainBramaged

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Primerica is old news. People assume that because it's a citigroup company, it's cool. It's just MLM, though the guy who I knew that did it didn't have to pay for anything but his state licensing.
 

SWScorch

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my mother is working for Primerica... I call it her cult. She won't believe me that it won't make her any money and she has sunk thousands of dollars in the training and setting up a website that does nothing.
 

fbrdphreak

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Reading those "rebuttals" just piss me off. What a group of convoluted sheep who can't do anything better with their lives :roll:
 

waggy

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Anytime a place wants you to pay for training its time to run. no company is going to force you to pay for the training (outside of college etc) or background fee. how people fall for this just amazes me.
 

I Saw OJ

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Originally posted by: waggy
Anytime a place wants you to pay for training its time to run. no company is going to force you to pay for the training (outside of college etc) or background fee. how people fall for this just amazes me.

I had to pay for background check and my name badge. They didnt require a check up front but slowly took a little out of my check each week until it was all paid off. Its a legit company where I have worked and earned a pay check for over a year now (although they are smaller than my liking)
 

Stuxnet

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Those rebuttals are beyond STUPID. Just wow. I knew the general population was somewhat retarded... but CLINICALLY retarded?
 

Savarak

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still no word from her... i think that after i clue'd her into what a scam Primerica is, she's been avoiding me :(
 

Cdubneeddeal

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My parents did this for years even when they were A.L. Williams and they made a decent living from it. How it really pays off is having a vast network of people you know, as my parents did. They probably had over a hundred people underneath them from all over the country. They're not in it anymore, however. Maybe this is why.
 

sniperruff

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as soon as you mentioned that name, i knew what this thread's about.

the saddest part is, after attending one of these sessions, the victim seems to be very convinced and will not listen to your reasoning at all, just like my friend... i was pointing out how if they really need people to work, it wouldn't have to ask you to pay for the course. nope. not convinced. it's like they had some sort of a spell...

just tell your friend that money doesn't come easy.
 

jfall

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MY friend fell for the same scam despite me telling him it was a scam multiple times
 

everman

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People want to believe that they've finally found a way to make easy money. It's kinda like a filter for stupid/gullible people, signs are everywhere that say danger keep out, but they go on ahead like sheep.
 

doze

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Some poeple have to learn the hard way. When your friend is out of a few hundred $$$ with no regular income hopefully they will learn their lesson.
 

IHAVEAQUESTION

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Yeah I have friends fell for the MLM scam as well. It's almost impossible to talk them out of it, I actually lost a friendship because of this. Once people see the opportunity to make easy money all their reasoning skills disappeared and won't recover until after the fact or never.
 

Atomicus

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Even worse is the fact that Primerica often holds regional "conferences" where they hand out "promotions" and have "successful" Primerica agents give the crowd a pep talk. And you know what? Promotions require a certain number of recruits! WTF is that?!

"It feels good to help other people and make money at the same time"
"Recruit and build a team" (yea, a slave network)
And the speakers always conclude with "See you at the top"

When my bro invited me to one of these conferences, I knew it was a b*llsh*t event just to raise morale and blind the sheep even further. Keith Otto seems to be the mastermind behind all of it. Once a pround plumber and Tae-Kwon-Do fighter, now a wealthy Primerican. Heck, if my bro gets rich from his method then more power to him. But its like making money off of sweatshop workers and encouraging the workers to find more people to work. Coporate slavery at its finest.