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EE Students...I have some questions

pgebhard

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I hope this fits the category and the mods dont lock this.

I KNOW there are a lot of EE students that frequent these forums, and I want their opinions and advice. I am currently a junior in high school, and I really aspire to become an EE student. I enjoy math and am taking AP Calc AB (next year BC), so I know where I want to go. My brother goes to Stanford and he is a Chem Engin. major. I know all this engineering is hard, but I REALLY want to succeed. Any advice at all would be appreciated. I just want to talk about my future. 🙂
 
I would recomend going into school as a general engineering major, then decide on a field after you have some experience. . . . and come to Virginia Tech!
 
I would recommend applying as an EE and then taking some non-EE courses in case you're not entirely sure about EE
... and come to CMU! 😉

(at CMU, you can either be accepted into the CIT - all engineering, or a specific major department. if you dont get into a specific major department, you have to "apply" for it at the end of freshman year, but if you do get into a major and then change your mind, you just transfer)

edit: at CMU, they constantly throw out "old" hardware. last week, my friends and I got 10 PPro 200s along with motherboards and PSUs. We also found some NICs and a bunch of AGP Matrox cards. Here is the box 😀. In the past we've found dozens of CD-ROM drives, socket5/7 systems, fans, etc.
 
Virginia Tech? CMU?
who's ever heard of them or their reputation?
Come up to Canada and apply for University of Toronto's Engineering SKULE(tm) or better yet.. University of Waterloo!
We've got the cost advantage AND the rep. for holding the most technologically innovative (Waterloo) University programs in all of Canada, rivalling the likes of your MIT.

You'll have to sacrifice a lot.. you'll be basically throwing your life away for 4 years and putting your nose in the books upwards to 7 hours per night! No joke! All of this to get that Bachelor's of Applied Sceince in whatever discipline in Engineering you're gunning for... EE or not... ask yourself that first before you really get yourself in some deep.. you get the drift?

Nuff said.. =)
 
I am an ee student and all I can say is you have to LOVE the subjects you are studying otherwise it will be like trying to haul a car uphill. If your interested in EE then it makes it all easier because you will be into it. Also, subscribe to EE magazines such as Poptronics and visit websites - they help you see how theory is applied in applications. Lastly, make sure you do well in math and physics. If you can really understand the concepts in calculus and physics (and not just memorize, plug and chug), then you will do fine in engineering because in engineering, you cannot memorize, you have to UNDERSTAND.
 
what blahblah said is definitely true. I find this stuff really cool so I can spend the time on it, but those who aren't interested find the ECE intro course difficult (and it only covered V=IR, diodes, and BJTs with a tiny bit about caps and digital logic)
 
ok

If you dont know in what field you want to specialize (comm, analog, dsp, controls, AI,...) then go get your undergrad anywhere and figure out what you want to do, then find a good grad school for whatever you chose to specialize in.

If you know in what field you want to specialize, find a school that gets tons of money for research in that area and go there.

its all about specializing, research, and making connections.

good luck (EE is actual easy, you wont need luck, just dedication for a couple of years).
 
'nuf said


You know the guy who invented Lasik Eye Surgery went here😉

....They definitely don't raise doofuses here


.Can you believe tons of students come all the way from INDIA to hear one of our profs.....

....if you ever hear someone refer to quantities in equations and such as "animals," they probably had him....

or if you hear this" Look AT the donught my friend. DO NOT look through the hole because then you have gone past the dougnut."

....or at least something along those lines😉
 


<< I would recomend going into school as a general engineering major, then decide on a field after you have some experience. . . . and come to Virginia Tech! >>



I agree whole heartedly. I'm civil engineering (masters) and love it, but I started out in EE. Just lost interest in EE after a couple of years of circuits and stuff. Important thing is to do what you enjoy and what you do well. The rest will come to you with time....

PS - Don't get caught up in the name game when looking at colleges. There's more to a school than its name, unless you want to teach EE someday. For general practice, you gotta pick the school thats right for you. Look at quality of education, teaching practices (a lot of schools promise tenured faculty and you get their grad students), how the school fits you, quality of life, etc. etc.

Good luck.
 
Ok, whoever posted about 7 hours of studying a night... haha you're nuts. I'm an EE, and I don't do anything like that. But I guess I just get by with high intelligence and the ability to absorb subject matter easily. Seriously, if you require 7 hours a night to understand this material, there is seriously something wrong with you. I'd suggest saving yourself and choosing another major.

There are many different roads. Yes, EE isn't a walk in the park. It takes a lot of dedication. I'd suggest looking into it more so you don't get half way down the road and then decide that it's not what you thought it was and want to do something else.

One thing I heard from an MIT professor myself...
"Get your Bachelor's Degree from any decently recognized EE school, where you'll learn the material well. Then choose a great Grad school"

EE is a very broad field. You'll figure out what areas you enjoy and those you don't. Then you can go on to a graduate school where you can specialize in the fields you'd like to work in.

That's my 2¢
 
I recently graduated from Georgia Tech with a BSEE. I would not recommend it, or any school like it(small hardcore technical schools). maybe its just me. I went into college thinking 'hey, i'm here to learn, what do i need all this other stuff for' If i could do it over i would have definitely selected illinois, texas@austin, berkeley, stanford etc. A few of my friends went to CMU and hated it as much as I hated GT for the same reasons. I can't recall anybody at GT being "happy" for more than an hour at a time. MIT is maybe the only school I would sacrifice for, but I would be more inclined to choose Stanford simply for the weather.

Maybe I'm just bitter because I dont have a job yet... But really, your general quality of life just seems to evaporate at these kinds of schools due to the atmosphere. The weekend trips to UGA saved my sanity. I will say that moving far away campus during my last year made a hell of a difference and maybe I would have liked it a lot more if I did this during the previous years.

jt
 
I chose Duke University because I wasn't certain that I wanted to be an engineer... and at MIT there wasn't much to fall back on. But I ended up graduating with a double major in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in May 2000.

In my opinion, you should evaluate the level of knowledge that you want to study about computers. When I decided to be an EE my freshman year in college, I decided that I would pick a curriculum where with any luck by the end I would have studied how computers work at every level from electron and hole mobility in doped silicon crystals to operating system services and computer networks.

But LOTS of my friends (who had similar aspirations) became very discouraged along the way. You see, as an Electrical Engineer, you will be forced to learn some things that you might not care about.

Some of my friends objected to having to learn about the device physics of semiconductors, which is an extremely detailed-level subject that requires a great deal of physics to understand (Fermi levels and bandgap energies are not immediately intuitive when one's only physics background has been classical mechanics and electromagnetics). At Duke, a course in semiconductor device physics is required to graduate with an EE degree.

Others did not like being forced to take a introductory signal processing class in EE. There is a huge jump in the level of math used in signal processing and that taught in typical math classes. I never learned about convolution integrals, Laplace transforms, Fourier transforms, Z-transforms, Autocorrelation functions, Bessel functions, Hankel functions, etc in ANY calculus math class. All of these are taught in an entry-level EE signal processing course. This also is a required course at Duke to graduate with an EE degree.

There are other classes that people gripe about. Some hate electromagnetics. Others don't like the cut-throat competition in the intro-level circuits class, which is generally set up to weed out those who just don't have what it takes to be engineers. But ALMOST EVERYONE likes the design classes that you get to take as a junior and senior. My personal favorite was a VLSI design class where as a final project my parner and I designed and laid out using Mentor Graphics CAD tools a 8,500 transistor finite impulse response filter chip. The tremendous sense of accomplishment you get when you've designed something from the ground up and see it working is tremendous and cannot be overstated. It's what I love about engineering.

So the attrition rate in EE was fairly high. Several of my friends became straight computer science majors; they didn't care about finding the oxide layer thickness in a p-channel mosfet at the onset of inversion, or the power spectral density of some random signal.

If I were you, take a look at the EE courses available at the school you're thinking of attending to see if you LIKE the course descriptions. Realize that some of the classes will be required, and some of them will NOT be available to you either because of a lack of time or simply because they won't be offerred when you can take them.

But if you like what you see, if you are one of the elite few who care, and perhaps even YEARN, to know about the most intricate details of electrical systems, then perhaps an exciting career as an Electrical Engineer is for YOU![/b]
 
This very quickly turned into a "my school's the best" thread, didn't it? 😛 Ah, pissing contests are fun! While I won't gloat concerning where I'm about to graduate from (The Cooper Union, for the curious - I believe it speaks for itself), I will echo what others have said about getting a feel first. I started out as a MechE, but transferred after my first year into the EE program. If you have a college nearby with a decent engineering program that you can visit, when they have open houses or what-not, go around and see what projects the upper classmen are working on. See what appeals to you. If you plan on taking it all the way (going for your master's later and then possibly PhD), then an undergrad school that's got a decent engineering program is fairly important - you can apply to Joe Schmoe Community College, but don't expect the school's reputation alone to carry you through to grad school. I've heard it said, whether or not it's true, that's it better to do very well at a decent school than moderately well at a top-rated school (at least, for when you're applying to grad school). While I haven't experienced it first-hand, it doesn't seem totally off-base. If you get into a great school, make sure you can handle the workload - engineering, especially EE, is notorious for requiring dedication (in other words - dis ain't no BS major!).

P.S. Yes, ICE is fun kylef. In junior year my partner and I constructed a flash ADC - we used Cadence though, for the design tool. The best part was sending the design off to MOSIS for fabrication and getting it back the next semester to pop it into a breadboard and actually test it. W00t! Looking at it under a microscope and knowing you designed what's there - from scratch, even those annoying W/L ratios - is very neat.
 
I took a dbl major in CS and Physics. If you think that is nothing then you can try EE. Remember, there is EE in sleep, but no Sleep in EE. 😀
 


I will soon be graduating from Penn State in EE and I can tell you that EE is no walk in the park, it is also not impossible. EE takes time and dedication, and as long as you are interested in the course material you will do well. I know here at PSU they start you off as a freshman with a very broad study of math and physics when you enter the engineering department. They make you take classes that will help you decided if EE is for you and if you are best suited for another discipline of engineering. With the majority of my friends being engineer students in a variety of disciplines, I'm sure that you will find a field of interest for you.

I know here at Penn State they will not punish you for taken classes that are not directly required for graduation of your major. So if you start in CSE and don't like it, other engineering department will do what they can to help you graduate on time. Just remember the EE discipline has many different fields of study within it, so I'm sure you will be able to find a field of study that you will like. I know I have gone through 3 different choices through the years, but am finally happy with my final choice.

You should contact your nearest school and schedule a meeting and tour within the EE department. Many schools offer private tours with students so you can obtain first hand knowledge about the school from a students perspective.

 
pterG, sounds to me like you're doing everything you need to do right now.

If you're pretty much set on some science/engineering major (as I was), then I think getting into the best technical school you can makes sense. If your brother's already at Stanford, then that sounds good to me! 🙂 Get your SATs, send out lots of college applications, and weigh the financial aid offers before locking in on one.

One thing to consider: most graduates are recruited for jobs in their state/region. And it's also where most of your college freinds will be. So, you might want to pick a good school in the geographical area you want to eventually live and work in. Don't go to my alma mater (Rensselear Polytechnic Institute) or any other school east of the Mississippi if you want to work on the west coast. It took me several years to find my way out to the Pacific Northwest.

Good luck!
 
As a BSEE graduate, (Memphis State University, 1989) the only advice I can give you is attend a school WHERE YOU FEEL comfortable. As far as credentials, if they are ABET accredited, that will get you in the door. I worked at a multinational A & E firm just out of college and I was on par with engineers from better known engineering schools. Goodluck, its a hard major but the rewards in knowledge that grows endlessly is a very satisfiying.
 
I used to go to CMU, but then I dropped out because the school is crap. If you aren't studying Computer Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Computer Science, or Drama, the school is useless. How they can charge $40k/year and not give students the liberty to choose their major is beyond me.
 
hmm taking Calc AB then BC... weird. i just took Calc BC in my junior year, got a 5 =)

I will say this, the school you go to does not help that much in getting you a job, as long as the school is well known (ie, not some unknown school). What will help you succeed is an environment which will stimulate your interests and mind. From there you can acquire the proper experiences and social growth which will help you succeed.

what gets you an engineering job is experience, (internships and coops). I suppose an obvious school to apply to is Stanford.
 
Hey, thanks for so many replies. I have Spring Break right now, and I just went on Tuesday and Wednesday to check out Duke. It was pretty nice. I think I would go to Notre Dame before Duke, but its a nice alternative. The students were very happy that they chose Duke.
 
ok, 2 things.

1. I am an EE major
2. I didnt read anything before this. [pm for details]
You have to work hard. I go to Penn State University[main campus] and I do so much work it isn't funny. You have to put work first.

Just trust me.

xyion.
 
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