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Edwards charges $55,000 to speak to UC Davis students about poverty

ProfJohn

Lifer
Can we bury his campaign already?

He charged a public University $55,000 to speak about poverty.
This guy is the biggest phony in the world with his two Americas speech and his huge mansion and speaking fees.

Can anyone explain why people still support him?
Link
Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, who as a Democratic presidential candidate recently proposed an educational policy that urged "every financial barrier" be removed for American kids who want to go to college, has been going to college himself -- as a high paid speaker, his financial records show.

The candidate charged a whopping $55,000 to speak at to a crowd of 1,787 the taxpayer-funded University of California at Davis on Jan. 9, 2006 last year, Joe Martin, the public relations officer for the campus' Mondavi Center confirmed Monday.

That amount -- which comes to about $31 a person in the audience -- included Edwards' travel and airfare, and was the highest speaking fee in the nine appearances he made before colleges and universities last year, according to his financial records.

The earnings -- though made before Edwards was a declared Democratic presidential candidate -- could hand ammunition to his competition for the Democratic presidential nomination. The candidate -- who was then the head of the Center on Poverty, Work and Opportunity at the University of North Carolina -- chose to speak on "Poverty, the great moral issue facing America," as his $55,000 topic at UC Davis.

That could cause both parents and students to note some irony here: UC Davis -- like the rest of the public University of California system -- will get hit this year by a 7 percent tuition increase that likely hits many of the kids his speeches are aimed at helping.

We wondered if this is Edwards' going speaking rate, and how come he didn't offer to do it gratis for a college, particularly a public institution.

But Martin of the Mondavi Center said that "as with any other performer, (the speaking fee) has to be negotiated, and there are a long list of considerations ... some of our speakers get more, and some get less."

He said UC Davis' Mondavi Center paid Edwards because at the time "he wasn't a (presidential) candidate and from our point of view, he was a speaker of interest that people in the community were clearly interested in ... we feel it's our mission to present those speakers."

Edwards spoke to at least two other California universities and colleges, both private.

He appeared at Stanford University, where he spoke on April 26, 2006; the Palo Alto institution paid him $40,000 to deliver his talks, according to financial records. And Edwards also headlined at the former University of Judaism -- today the American Jewish University -- in Los Angeles on Jan. 30, 2006, where he debated former Speaker Newt Gingrich before about 5,000 people. According to financial documents, the candidate received a fee of $40,000 at that appearance.

And the college and university gigs apparently added up on the bottom line for Edwards.

In 2006, records show Edwards made more than $285,000 speaking to nine colleges and universities, charging between $16,000 and Davis' $55,000 for his talks. They ranged from the $12,000 he got on Jan. 10, 2006 from Gonzaga University Law School in Seattle to the $40,000 he banked from the University of Texas Pan American Foundation on May 22, 2006. Other schools that have paid Edwards to speak before he was a declared presidential candidate: Hunter College in New York ($35,000), Mount Union College in Ohio ($16,00) and Vanderbilt University in Nashville ($40,000).
I wonder what the people complaining about Rudy?s speaking fees have to say about this.
 
AFAIC, Presidential candidates should be begging to have access to campuses in order to gain access to college-aged voters. The fact that any of them demand $$ to appear is just plain ridiculous.
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
AFAIC, Presidential candidates should be begging to have access to campuses in order to gain access to college-aged voters. The fact that any of them demand $$ to appear is just plain ridiculous.

But he did get paid.

I wish it were as you described it.

I don't think he has anything to say that is worth 55K. jebbus that is alot.
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
[ Typical swiftboating deleted ]
:cookie:

I wonder if you said the same thing to the OP of the Guiliani thread....

What I mean is, do you think that the Guiliani thread was "typical Dan Rathering"
 
Well Bowfinger you know what they say, "When you can't refute the message, attack the messenger".
 
Originally posted by: her209
So how much should Edwards have gotten paid?

Personally, if someone wants to pay him 4 million dollars to fart into a microphone I could care less. But the two Americas thing combined with this, lol.
 
Originally posted by: her209
So how much should Edwards have gotten paid?
Travel expenses and maybe a small fee.
A few thousand perhaps.

It is one thing if a private company wants to bring him to talk, but these are public schools spending TONS of cash on one event.

Did you notice the part where the CA state school system is raising tuition by 7% this year? Maybe if they weren?t throwing money at big time spenders they could save the tax payers and students some money.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Can we bury his campaign already?

He charged a public University $55,000 to speak about poverty.
This guy is the biggest phony in the world with his two Americas speech and his huge mansion and speaking fees.

Can anyone explain why people still support him?

I certainly don't support him, but what do you expect him to do precisely? Take a vow of poverty? Only then can he speak to or try and fight poverty in your mind? Look, he's a politician, not Jesus, lower your expectations a little bit.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: her209
So how much should Edwards have gotten paid?
Travel expenses and maybe a small fee.
A few thousand perhaps.

It is one thing if a private company wants to bring him to talk, but these are public schools spending TONS of cash on one event.

Did you notice the part where the CA state school system is raising tuition by 7% this year? Maybe if they weren?t throwing money at big time spenders they could save the tax payers and students some money.

Good point, I didn't even think about the whole public school thing. I don't think public schools should be paying money like this for anyone to speak.
 
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Can we bury his campaign already?

He charged a public University $55,000 to speak about poverty.
This guy is the biggest phony in the world with his two Americas speech and his huge mansion and speaking fees.

Can anyone explain why people still support him?
I certainly don't support him, but what do you expect him to do precisely? Take a vow of poverty? Only then can he speak to or try and fight poverty in your mind? Look, he's a politician, not Jesus, lower your expectations a little bit.
I expect him to not talk about how the country has become the rich and the poor while collecting $55,000 for a few hours of work.

$285,000 in one year just speaking to colleges, sad for someone whose whole campaign is about the ?two Americas.?

Edwards is the worst type of liberal, the kind who tell everyone else how they should live their life while doing whatever he wants in his.
 
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
[ Typical swiftboating deleted ]
:cookie:
I wonder if you said the same thing to the OP of the Guiliani thread....

What I mean is, do you think that the Guiliani thread was "typical Dan Rathering"
Why would I? He didn't attack Guiliani for collecting speaking fees, nor did anyone in the thread as far as I could see. There was a suggestion his supporters were "retarded" for paying so much, there were a couple of general anti-Guiliani comments unrelated to the OP, and there was a lame diversion by the grammar police. Yes, there were a few of the Bush faithful who lashed out assuming the OP was attacking Guiliani for his fees, but they simply didn't read the thread very well.

PJ, however, is attacking Edwards for collecting speaking fees, and with your help is continuing to distort the subject of the other thread. Such dishonest, swiftboat-style attacks are the basis for most of his trolls. I gave him the :cookie: he deserved.
 
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: her209
So how much should Edwards have gotten paid?
Travel expenses and maybe a small fee.
A few thousand perhaps.

It is one thing if a private company wants to bring him to talk, but these are public schools spending TONS of cash on one event.

Did you notice the part where the CA state school system is raising tuition by 7% this year? Maybe if they weren?t throwing money at big time spenders they could save the tax payers and students some money.
Good point, I didn't even think about the whole public school thing. I don't think public schools should be paying money like this for anyone to speak.
I think getting the chance to listen to well known and successful people is part of the college experience, I just don?t think they should be spending this much on it.

The cheapest speaking fee he charged was $12,000. It takes the average American 3+ months to make that much money. The hypocrisy is horrible.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I expect him to not talk about how the country has become the rich and the poor while collecting $55,000 for a few hours of work.

$285,000 in one year just speaking to colleges, sad for someone whose whole campaign is about the ?two Americas.?

Edwards is the worst type of liberal, the kind who tell everyone else how they should live their life while doing whatever he wants in his.
That is frankly stupid, even for you. That Edwards calls attention to a problem -- a very real problem -- in no way obligates him to stop being successful at his business. You certainly don't make similar demands for those on the right. The hypocrisy is yours, not Edwards'.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Can we bury his campaign already?

He charged a public University $55,000 to speak about poverty.
This guy is the biggest phony in the world with his two Americas speech and his huge mansion and speaking fees.

Can anyone explain why people still support him?
I certainly don't support him, but what do you expect him to do precisely? Take a vow of poverty? Only then can he speak to or try and fight poverty in your mind? Look, he's a politician, not Jesus, lower your expectations a little bit.
I expect him to not talk about how the country has become the rich and the poor while collecting $55,000 for a few hours of work.

$285,000 in one year just speaking to colleges, sad for someone whose whole campaign is about the ?two Americas.?

Edwards is the worst type of liberal, the kind who tell everyone else how they should live their life while doing whatever he wants in his.

So let me get this straight, you want to censor/limit what Edwards is allowed to talk about? Even if he's incredibly wealthy, how does that have any bearing on the fact that poverty exists and deserves to be challenged? Did I miss something, or did Edwards blame rich guys for the problem with poverty we have in this country?
 
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: her209
So how much should Edwards have gotten paid?
Personally, if someone wants to pay him 4 million dollars to fart into a microphone I could care less. But the two Americas thing combined with this, lol.
You didn't answer the question.
 
IMO, it's kind of hard to knock Edwards for this, when Ruu-Dee does the same thing...only more of it:
(yes, I know there was a thread on this already, just posting it as a reminder of PJ's apparent hypocracy...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070517/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_finances_23
"Giuliani's biggest single source of income between January 2006 and February 2007 came from speaking engagements around the world. He grossed $11.4 million in speeches, which includes fees retained by the Washington Speakers Bureau. He typically charged $100,000 per speaking engagement and as much as $200,000 on occasion."

 
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: her209
So how much should Edwards have gotten paid?
Personally, if someone wants to pay him 4 million dollars to fart into a microphone I could care less. But the two Americas thing combined with this, lol.
You didn't answer the question.

uummm....ok, he should be paid what someone is willing to pay him, thats why I said "if someone wants to pay him 4 million dollars to fart into a microphone I could care less.". But as PJ points out it is a little different case here because it is a public school that is paying him. But hey, as long as Californians don't mind paying for it then by all means, 55k seems great.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Can we bury his campaign already?

He charged a public University $55,000 to speak about poverty.
This guy is the biggest phony in the world with his two Americas speech and his huge mansion and speaking fees.

Can anyone explain why people still support him?
Link
Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, who as a Democratic presidential candidate recently proposed an educational policy that urged "every financial barrier" be removed for American kids who want to go to college, has been going to college himself -- as a high paid speaker, his financial records show.

The candidate charged a whopping $55,000 to speak at to a crowd of 1,787 the taxpayer-funded University of California at Davis on Jan. 9, 2006 last year, Joe Martin, the public relations officer for the campus' Mondavi Center confirmed Monday.

That amount -- which comes to about $31 a person in the audience -- included Edwards' travel and airfare, and was the highest speaking fee in the nine appearances he made before colleges and universities last year, according to his financial records.

The earnings -- though made before Edwards was a declared Democratic presidential candidate -- could hand ammunition to his competition for the Democratic presidential nomination. The candidate -- who was then the head of the Center on Poverty, Work and Opportunity at the University of North Carolina -- chose to speak on "Poverty, the great moral issue facing America," as his $55,000 topic at UC Davis.

That could cause both parents and students to note some irony here: UC Davis -- like the rest of the public University of California system -- will get hit this year by a 7 percent tuition increase that likely hits many of the kids his speeches are aimed at helping.

We wondered if this is Edwards' going speaking rate, and how come he didn't offer to do it gratis for a college, particularly a public institution.

But Martin of the Mondavi Center said that "as with any other performer, (the speaking fee) has to be negotiated, and there are a long list of considerations ... some of our speakers get more, and some get less."

He said UC Davis' Mondavi Center paid Edwards because at the time "he wasn't a (presidential) candidate and from our point of view, he was a speaker of interest that people in the community were clearly interested in ... we feel it's our mission to present those speakers."

Edwards spoke to at least two other California universities and colleges, both private.

He appeared at Stanford University, where he spoke on April 26, 2006; the Palo Alto institution paid him $40,000 to deliver his talks, according to financial records. And Edwards also headlined at the former University of Judaism -- today the American Jewish University -- in Los Angeles on Jan. 30, 2006, where he debated former Speaker Newt Gingrich before about 5,000 people. According to financial documents, the candidate received a fee of $40,000 at that appearance.

And the college and university gigs apparently added up on the bottom line for Edwards.

In 2006, records show Edwards made more than $285,000 speaking to nine colleges and universities, charging between $16,000 and Davis' $55,000 for his talks. They ranged from the $12,000 he got on Jan. 10, 2006 from Gonzaga University Law School in Seattle to the $40,000 he banked from the University of Texas Pan American Foundation on May 22, 2006. Other schools that have paid Edwards to speak before he was a declared presidential candidate: Hunter College in New York ($35,000), Mount Union College in Ohio ($16,00) and Vanderbilt University in Nashville ($40,000).
I wonder what the people complaining about Rudy?s speaking fees have to say about this.


Limo liberal
 
Sorry, but are you people insane?

First of all UC Davis can do what it wants with its money, it decided to spend $55k on a speaker. If Edwards can get $55k, then good for him... that's what his speaking is worth apparently. If you want to be mad about the fee, be mad at UC Davis, not Edwards. Also, just so you guys know the UC system only gets about 25% of its funding from the state.

Secondly, this has to be the stupidest charge of hypocrisy I've ever heard. Why the hell does John Edwards have to be poor to speak out against poverty? If Edwards wipes his @ss with $100 bills it doesn't change validity of the policies he has put forth and the factual basis for them. It is not anywhere within the same universe as hypocrisy to speak out against poverty while being wealthy yourself. If anything it is the height of selflessness as he is endorsing policies that will do him manifest economic harm.

This trend lately of attacking people trying to do good work is baffling to me. Al Gore has a big house, so I guess suddenly global warming isn't happening. John Edwards makes a lot of money so I guess suddenly his anti poverty policies aren't worth considering. Jimmy Carter was a bad president so suddenly his criticisms of Bush aren't valid.

Stop attacking the messenger you retards.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: her209
So how much should Edwards have gotten paid?
Travel expenses and maybe a small fee.
A few thousand perhaps.

It is one thing if a private company wants to bring him to talk, but these are public schools spending TONS of cash on one event.

Did you notice the part where the CA state school system is raising tuition by 7% this year? Maybe if they weren?t throwing money at big time spenders they could save the tax payers and students some money.

uc davis probably has a budget in the 10+ million range, in fact i bet its athletic programs costs that much. I don't hear you complaining about the $200+ in student fees that they likely pay for athletics along per semester.
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Sorry, but are you people insane?

First of all UC Davis can do what it wants with its money, it decided to spend $55k on a speaker. If Edwards can get $55k, then good for him... that's what his speaking is worth apparently. If you want to be mad about the fee, be mad at UC Davis, not Edwards. Also, just so you guys know the UC system only gets about 25% of its funding from the state.

Secondly, this has to be the stupidest charge of hypocrisy I've ever heard. Why the hell does John Edwards have to be poor to speak out against poverty? If Edwards wipes his @ss with $100 bills it doesn't change validity of the policies he has put forth and the factual basis for them. It is not anywhere within the same universe as hypocrisy to speak out against poverty while being wealthy yourself. If anything it is the height of selflessness as he is endorsing policies that will do him manifest economic harm.

This trend lately of attacking people trying to do good work is baffling to me. Al Gore has a big house, so I guess suddenly global warming isn't happening. John Edwards makes a lot of money so I guess suddenly his anti poverty policies aren't worth considering. Jimmy Carter was a bad president so suddenly his criticisms of Bush aren't valid.

Stop attacking the messenger you retards.

quick someone shoot the messenger!
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Topic Title: Edwards charges $55,000 to speak to UC Davis students about poverty
Topic Summary: There are two Americas, one who can afford to hear him speak and one who can't

$55,000 is cheap. If it was $550,000 that might be a story.

Speaking of cheap, how much is the OP being paid off???
 
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