Edwards admits to extramarital affair

[moshquerade]

It won't stop his political aspirations. I'd bet that unfaithful politicians outnumber the faithful.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: TehMac
That happened like....40 years ago. No one is thrilled about it, but then again, no one seems to care anymore.

How exactly is how long ago it happened relevant? Is there a time period after an affair during which you can't run for president?

Look honey, I'm not denying it, nor am I in approval, I think it was a dick of him, but he never denied it to the public, it's public knowledge, whereas Edwards lied about it, his wife lied about it, and he tried to cover it up, and then got pissed ABC broadcast it on Friday instead of during the hype for the Olympics.

 

[sixone]

His actions prove the lie. He says the affair was over two years ago, he says the kid isn't his, but he's still prowling around this woman's hotel room in the middle of the night.

Doesn't do any good to learn from your mistakes and take responsibility for them, when you fully intend to continue repeating those mistakes.

 

[soonerproud]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: waggy
Asi said above him cheating is between him, his wife and whatever god he worships. But i don't have any sympathy for him getting bashed in the news and it ruining his chance of ever being presiadant.

It didn't stop McCain....?

That happened like....40 years ago. No one is thrilled about it, but then again, no one seems to care anymore.

The difference is that McCain did not use his marriage as the center piece of his campaign and has never publicly judged someone for having a extramarital affair. John Edwards had some pretty harsh words to say about Bill Clinton in the 90's and has stated that people who have affairs are not qualified for office.

The American people are willing to forgive errors in judgment from most people. The exceptions are politicians and religious leaders who run around spouting off some moral crusade. This is exactly what John Edwards has been doing and now his hypocrisy has seen the light of day.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
It won't stop his political aspirations. I'd bet that unfaithful politicians outnumber the faithful.

Since the DC Madam "committed suicide", we'll never know.

 

[GiggleGirl]

first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

My problem with it comes when you LIE. What you do on your personal time should be personal but that's not the way the World works today. If you get caught, own up. But I have a big problem with people lying to me.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: soonerproud

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: waggy
Asi said above him cheating is between him, his wife and whatever god he worships. But i don't have any sympathy for him getting bashed in the news and it ruining his chance of ever being presiadant.

It didn't stop McCain....?

That happened like....40 years ago. No one is thrilled about it, but then again, no one seems to care anymore.

The difference is that McCain did not use his marriage as the center piece of his campaign and has never publicly judged someone for having a extramarital affair. John Edwards had some pretty harsh words to say about Bill Clinton in the 90's and has stated that people who have affairs are not qualified for office.

The American people are willing to forgive errors in judgment from most people. The exceptions are politicians and religious leaders who run around spouting off some moral crusade. This is exactly what John Edwards has been doing and now his hypocrisy has seen the light of day.

No, the difference is that the Democrats did NOT nominate that POS Edwards, while the Republicans nominated that POS McCain.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

So you don't mind if your president passes a law, and then acts as though it doesn't apply to him. You don't mind if your president lies in a court of law that he's sworn to uphold.

I hope you won't be voting, come November.

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

My problem with it comes when you LIE. What you do on your personal time should be personal but that's not the way the World works today. If you get caught, own up. But I have a big problem with people lying to me.

which makes perfect sense. cheating on your wife doesnt affect me... lying about it shows the kind of man you are. i absolutely believe people should take responsibility for their actions and not doing so is cowardly

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

So you don't mind if your president passes a law, and then acts as though it doesn't apply to him. You don't mind if your president lies in a court of law that he's sworn to uphold.

I hope you won't be voting, come November.

no, see, youre an idiot. its not my place to decide who does and doesnt follow laws. which is exactly why i said that if what youre doing is illegal, the law will take care of you. i dont see anywhere where it states that GO's are sworn to uphold their marriages while in office (or not in office in Edwards case).

i wouldnt elect someone into office with past indiscretions and moral misbehavior that i feel are damaging or would prohibit someone from running the country well.

oh and i will CERTAINLY be voting in november.... i was going to just do it because its my obligation and right as a citizen of this country, but now im going to enjoy it more because you are hoping i wont be voting.

That is what i call: Sweet Success

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

Can you list the "wonders" Clinton did for our country?

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

Can you list the "wonders" Clinton did for our country?

is this just your attempt to fault me? his success with this country was mainly economical which, in my opinion, is extremely important to basically everyone.

here this might help you, Text

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

Can you list the "wonders" Clinton did for our country?

is this just your attempt to fault me? his success with this country was mainly economical which, in my opinion, is extremely important to basically everyone.

here this might help you, Text

I would argue if it was a Republican president the result would have been the same.

Silly people like you think the president has that much power in making your life better. The only direct way a President can make your life better/worse is through increase/decrease in taxes and increase/decrease in regulation (and even that needs the involvement of Congress to get anything done). Even then, a low earner like you would probably not be affected in any economic policy change.

So funny to see people like you wanting to suck Clintons hardon just because his speeches make you feel good.

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

Can you list the "wonders" Clinton did for our country?

is this just your attempt to fault me? his success with this country was mainly economical which, in my opinion, is extremely important to basically everyone.

here this might help you, Text

I would argue if it was a Republican president the result would have been the same.

Silly people like you think the president has that much power in making your life better. The only direct way a President can make your life better/worse is through increase/decrease in taxes and increase/decrease in regulation (and even that needs the involvement of Congress to get anything done). Even then, a low earner like you would probably not be affected in any economic policy change.

So funny to see people like you wanting to suck Clintons hardon just because his speeches make you feel good.

you are ridiculous. you dont even know me yet you make such lofty generalizations as to who i am. GET A LIFE. GROW UP

the basis of your response is a sad and ineffective defense to the proof i provided that Clinton's impact on the country was unarguably a great one.

in reality, i really dont care about your opinion or point of view. /discussion

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

So you don't mind if your president passes a law, and then acts as though it doesn't apply to him. You don't mind if your president lies in a court of law that he's sworn to uphold.

I hope you won't be voting, come November.

no, see, youre an idiot. its not my place to decide who does and doesnt follow laws. which is exactly why i said that if what youre doing is illegal, the law will take care of you. i dont see anywhere where it states that GO's are sworn to uphold their marriages while in office (or not in office in Edwards case).

i wouldnt elect someone into office with past indiscretions and moral misbehavior that i feel are damaging or would prohibit someone from running the country well.

oh and i will CERTAINLY be voting in november.... i was going to just do it because its my obligation and right as a citizen of this country, but now im going to enjoy it more because you are hoping i wont be voting.

That is what i call: Sweet Success

Your obligation to vote includes educating yourself on all the facts before casting your vote. Clearly, you're not living up to this obligation, since you don't appear to have the foggiest clue about the events I was referring to.

You have two months - please make the most of it. See, success is only as valuable as the effort you put into it.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

Your first name isn't Monica by any chance is it? :Q

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

Your first name isn't Monica by any chance is it? :Q

Safe bet she's not a Juanita.

 

[db]

In America this stuff seems to play. In reality, what--40-50% of all married couples fool around? Not excusable, but fodder for those who love to hate when it's political.
(Those pointing the finger, half of them are no better, but hypocrites. And since you brought up morality in politics, why is it ok to bring impeachment charges for getting a blow job but not for lying to start a war on another country, resulting in the death of thousands of your own and hundreds of thousands of others?).

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: db
In America this stuff seems to play. In reality, what--40-50% of all married couples fool around? Not excusable, but fodder for those who love to hate when it's political.
(Those pointing the finger, half of them are no better, but hypocrites. And since you brought up morality in politics, why is it ok to bring impeachment charges for getting a blow job but not for lying to start a war on another country, resulting in the death of thousands of your own and hundreds of thousands of others?).

Because said blowjob demonstrated a pattern of sexual harrassment and of perjury. And because too many Democrats don't want to remind potential voters that they supported the war as it started. Very few elected officials are willing to commit political suicide in order to do the right thing - how's that for hypocrisy for you?

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

My problem with it comes when you LIE. What you do on your personal time should be personal but that's not the way the World works today. If you get caught, own up. But I have a big problem with people lying to me.

which makes perfect sense. cheating on your wife doesnt affect me... lying about it shows the kind of man you are. i absolutely believe people should take responsibility for their actions and not doing so is cowardly

So do you not believe Clinton lied under oath? Or do you subscribe to the definition argument (that oral sex is not sexual relations)?

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

My problem with it comes when you LIE. What you do on your personal time should be personal but that's not the way the World works today. If you get caught, own up. But I have a big problem with people lying to me.

which makes perfect sense. cheating on your wife doesnt affect me... lying about it shows the kind of man you are. i absolutely believe people should take responsibility for their actions and not doing so is cowardly

So do you not believe Clinton lied under oath? Or do you subscribe to the definition argument (that oral sex is not sexual relations)?

oh i never said he didnt. i said that affairs have no bearing on ones ability to do good things for the country. yea, he cheated and he lied about it, his fuck up. but it doesnt cancel out the great things he did as president.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

My problem with it comes when you LIE. What you do on your personal time should be personal but that's not the way the World works today. If you get caught, own up. But I have a big problem with people lying to me.

which makes perfect sense. cheating on your wife doesnt affect me... lying about it shows the kind of man you are. i absolutely believe people should take responsibility for their actions and not doing so is cowardly

So do you not believe Clinton lied under oath? Or do you subscribe to the definition argument (that oral sex is not sexual relations)?

oh i never said he didnt. i said that affairs have no bearing on ones ability to do good things for the country. yea, he cheated and he lied about it, his fuck up. but it doesnt cancel out the great things he did as president.

what great things did he do as president?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

My problem with it comes when you LIE. What you do on your personal time should be personal but that's not the way the World works today. If you get caught, own up. But I have a big problem with people lying to me.

which makes perfect sense. cheating on your wife doesnt affect me... lying about it shows the kind of man you are. i absolutely believe people should take responsibility for their actions and not doing so is cowardly

So do you not believe Clinton lied under oath? Or do you subscribe to the definition argument (that oral sex is not sexual relations)?

oh i never said he didnt. i said that affairs have no bearing on ones ability to do good things for the country. yea, he cheated and he lied about it, his fuck up. but it doesnt cancel out the great things he did as president.

what great things did he do as president?

According to her he did "wonders"

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
first of all, affair or no affair has no relevance to ones ability to be an outstanding political figure or president. when clinton fucked up his marriage, i could have cared less... he was a great president and he did wonders for our country.
MOST of our past presidents were adulterers and some of the greatest ones were cheating on their wives. frankly, thats not my business and i dont give a shit if youre a shitty husband. if you have great ability to handle and run the country, i dont really care what you do. so long as whatever consequences to your discretion are befitting of the "crime"... its not for the public to decide how its taken care of. if what youre doing is immoral, its you who has to sleep at night. if its illegal, then by all means let the law handle it

My problem with it comes when you LIE. What you do on your personal time should be personal but that's not the way the World works today. If you get caught, own up. But I have a big problem with people lying to me.

which makes perfect sense. cheating on your wife doesnt affect me... lying about it shows the kind of man you are. i absolutely believe people should take responsibility for their actions and not doing so is cowardly

So do you not believe Clinton lied under oath? Or do you subscribe to the definition argument (that oral sex is not sexual relations)?

oh i never said he didnt. i said that affairs have no bearing on ones ability to do good things for the country. yea, he cheated and he lied about it, his fuck up. but it doesnt cancel out the great things he did as president.

what great things did he do as president?

According to her he did "wonders"

Compared to the current dolt, I would say anything he did could be classified as a wonder.