Edward Snowend on JRE. Anyone watch it?

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The main thing that had me worried is how our Government and these large tec companies are bulk collecting our data? And how if you've looked up anything unsavory on Google how it could come back to destroy your life. That was some scary crap TBH. Thru our phones we are always being monitored. Always observed. And yet, most people don't care. Well until it becomes too late.

 
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Why do you think they need a cloud service? Data storage.

I watched this a week or so ago when it originally went up. Nothing surprised me.
 

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I didn't listen to it but I read that he dispelled the idea of the government hiding aliens. And the moon landing happened. Hopefully the conspiracy theorist do not hear this. I love them.
 
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I didn't listen to it but I read that he dispelled the idea of the government hiding aliens. And the moon landing happened. Hopefully the conspiracy theorist do not hear this. I love them.
He "dispelled" it by running queries of the databases he had access to. Something tells me he didn't have access to every database of every sector of every branch of our government....

Not that I'm acting as if I'm on the conspiracy theorist side, my main point is in the podcast he basically said ,"Yeah I queried the database for alien stuff and nothing came up"....

Okay of all things, that isn't proof of non existence...
 
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I tried to watch it but the way he talks is unbearable. I think he thinks everyone is as dumb as a rock and have been living under a rock. He speaks in a deliberate manner like how you would speak if you were explaining quantum computing to an octogenarian.
 
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I tried to watch it but the way he talks is unbearable. I think he thinks everyone is as dumb as a rock and have been living under a rock. He speaks in a deliberate manner like how you would speak if you were explaining quantum computing to an octogenarian.

In his defense, the average American(/person) is pretty freaking dumb.
 

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He was not in studio, so the time delay made for less interaction with Joe. Pretty long, but all in all worthwhile.
 

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He "dispelled" it by running queries of the databases he had access to. Something tells me he didn't have access to every database of every sector of every branch of our government....

Not that I'm acting as if I'm on the conspiracy theorist side, my main point is in the podcast he basically said ,"Yeah I queried the database for alien stuff and nothing came up"....

Okay of all things, that isn't proof of non existence...

Yeah, I read that initial claim and thought that it was weird...particularly that Snowden would have even found that information. It did say that he was curious about that topic specifically, so it makes sense that he would directly search for such evidence.

The thing I don't like about Snowden is that he never knew what was in some 90% of the data that he downloaded. He never curated what he found, and just blindly dumped it on a couple of people, Greenwald especially, because "he liked them;" not necessarily because he had any inclination as to their ethics when it comes to handling the extreme sensitivity of what would be found.

Snowden isn't really a whistleblower, as it is commonly understood. He never had particular expertise or direct knowledge of the subject of his revelations--he didn't ever even make direct complaints (all whistleblowers first try the channels of reporting available to them, but only when that fails, do they feel a sense of duty to force the issue outside of their chain of command). He never went into his contracting gig with a sense of duty to the task--that he respected his work and only became disturbed after discovering a fundamental breakdown in the system. ...that isn't Snowden. He took that job specifically because he was interested in digging up any dirt that he could possibly find, and so that is what he devoted his time to doing. This is a hugely significant distinction.

In the end, I think what Snowden did still ends up as a net positive for the US, and for transparency, but it's really important to understand that how we went about it should never be emulated. He never discovered wrong-doing. He purposely sought it out, which is the root of any kind of uninformed bias. That, and the extremely dangerous nature of his completely blind dissemination of all of these materials.
 

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The main thing that had me worried is how our Government and these large tec companies are bulk collecting our data? And how if you've looked up anything unsavory on Google how it could come back to destroy your life. That was some scary crap TBH. Thru our phones we are always being monitored. Always observed. And yet, most people don't care. Well until it becomes too late.

How it impacts your life is also really unknown. You may not get hired for a job for something that is in this secret data that you don't have access too. You may also get fired for an email you wrote 10 years ago and completely forgot about.
 

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I was trying to figure out what Snowden had to do with or say about Java Runtime Environment
 
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I listened to it, found it interesting. Not a lot of super shocking information. The time delay was a little awkward, but I didn't have any issue in how he spoke. He did seem to start on a topic say he would get to the meat but then just keep going on tangents.
 

z1ggy

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Watched it. I think I learned more about him than about the surrounding issues he exposed and the whole issue with tech these days.

I've known for a while that my Alexa is probably spying on me even when the little blue light isn't on when I start seeing ads on my phone for stuff that I never Googled, but simply just mentioned outloud near the Alexa.

I think the most interesting new thing I learned was that the CIA uses AWS. I can't imagine how much $$$ Amazon is making off hosting instances and god knows how many DB's for them.