Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

[openwheel]

Snowden is a traitor of my country and I hope he is brought in front of a judge so our justice system can decide. He broke the law and he shouldnt be excluded from justice. There is nithing he released that any American with half a brain didnt know anyway. The dems were bitching about the same thing during Bush and now everyone is all butt hurt over NSA?

 

[rudeguy]

Snowden is a traitor of my country and I hope he is brought in front of a judge so our justice system can decide. He broke the law and he shouldnt be excluded from justice. There is nithing he released that any American with half a brain didnt know anyway. The dems were bitching about the same thing during Bush and now everyone is all butt hurt over NSA?

What kind of meds are you supposed to be taking?

And why aren't you taking them?

 

[Paul98]

This. I am generally considered "liberal" these days on ATPN, and while I do support the president, I considered what Snowden did to be admirable. Most of us (myself included) wouldn't have had the guts to do what he did. Personal liberty/privacy has taken a back seat to "national security" for far too long. I think he could very well receive the prize.

This

 

[Paul98]

? Why are Republicans rooting for this Snowden traitor?

Anything against Obama is good these days? Even if it goes against the Republican believes?

And the liberal's rooting for him also?

 

[rudeguy]

please for a moment try and understand that national security vs personal liberty is not strictly a republican vs democrat thing.

Right.

The one and only thing that separates us from the rest of the world is our constitution. Every one of our leaders swears to uphold and protect it. Yet so many of them are trying to bypass or cheat it.

I don't care what side of the aisle you sit on. If you don't protect my rights, you need to be fired and charged with treason.

 

[Zorba]

I will personally donate to any project to build a statue of Snowden on public land. I think he is the most significant whistle blower in the last decade.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Snowden is a traitor of my country and I hope he is brought in front of a judge so our justice system can decide. He broke the law and he shouldnt be excluded from justice. There is nithing he released that any American with half a brain didnt know anyway. The dems were bitching about the same thing during Bush and now everyone is all butt hurt over NSA?

It's the duty of any American to stand up to tyranny, and the NSA spies on its own citizens.

The man is a hero.

 

[Zorba]

Almost all Republicans and Democrats I've talked to are against the NSA spying, and most now days are okay with what Snowden did. But a republican and a democratic president pushed this through, with massive bi-partisan support in congress. How come the parties can only work together when it is against the wishes of the majority of Americans, if something would actually help American citizens they fight tooth and nail to prevent it.

 

[Moonbeam]

I hopes he gets it.

 

[MagickMan]

Snowden is a traitor of my country and I hope he is brought in front of a judge so our justice system can decide. He broke the law and he shouldnt be excluded from justice. There is nithing he released that any American with half a brain didnt know anyway. The dems were bitching about the same thing during Bush and now everyone is all butt hurt over NSA?

Horse shit. All we've heard are the generalities, he's given specifics to foreign governments regarding blatant violations to standing treaties (breaking a treaty is the same in penalty as violating a Constitutional law, FYI). Some so invasive they are tantamount to treason. There are people sitting in office right now, even in the highest positions, who could be charged with espionage and conspiracy if they were brought up before the world court. That's how bad this is.

Bush? You're comparing the "Great Obama", the "Liberator", to Bush? We were supposed to get change, not "business as usual", you remember that? You remember the "transparent Washington" he promised? No more "Great Secrets"? The douchebag doubled-down on every dirty thing Bush dreamed up, and then bypassed congress with executive orders to do some more. This has been the largest criminal clusterfuck of an administration since Grant.

Jesus H Christ... Bush? Shiiit, in dirty politics, ol' Barry Obama makes Bush look like an amateur.

 

[Jaskalas]

Snowden sacrificed himself to defend the 4th. Only reason he had to flee the country is because no one will stand with him. No one will stand for the Bill of Rights.

We need States, their Governors, and their legislatures to stand with him. To defy the centralized abuse of power that has corrupted our Democracy. Until that day comes we are the North Koreans and Russia the land of the free.

Thank you to one man for becoming the symbol of how this nation has fallen.

 

[MagickMan]

^ Amen.

 

[Anarchist420]

he has done americ and the rest of the world very, very well against tyranny so if he wants it then i want him to have it, although i dont know why any pro-peace, pro-liberty individual would want it given that obama has it.

 

[Sinsear]

I hope he gets shot. Preferably sooner than later.

 

[1prophet]

Snowden is a traitor of my country and I hope he is brought in front of a judge so our justice system can decide. He broke the law and he shouldnt be excluded from justice. There is nithing he released that any American with half a brain didnt know anyway. The dems were bitching about the same thing during Bush and now everyone is all butt hurt over NSA?

And back in the day people like yourself would label the civil rights movement as communism and those opposed to the Vietnam war/draft as traitors.

 

[sdifox]

Snowden is a traitor of my country and I hope he is brought in front of a judge so our justice system can decide. He broke the law and he shouldnt be excluded from justice. There is nithing he released that any American with half a brain didnt know anyway. The dems were bitching about the same thing during Bush and now everyone is all butt hurt over NSA?

So you are ready to put the NSA in jail too? They are the bigger traitors. They spied on you for crying out loud. No one would bat an eye if they just spied on foreigners.

 

[Double Trouble]

I'm not sure how Snowden has anything to do with peace, but I very much support what he's done and he'd be a far better candidate than some of the ones we've seen in the past.

 

[silverpig]

Since 1901, it has been awarded annually (with some exceptions) to those who have "done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

So, this obviously doesn't really apply anymore as Gore got it for making a movie about climate change, and Obama got it as encouragement to be peaceful.

That said, Snowden should get it.

 

[soulcougher73]

I'm not sure what exposing NSA has to do with peace. But I rarely understand their choices so long ago quit caring.

Fern

This. Actually i never cared.

 

[glenn1]

So you are ready to put the NSA in jail too? They are the bigger traitors. They spied on you for crying out loud. No one would bat an eye if they just spied on foreigners.

For some citizens of Oceania, they're content so long as Big Brother's face on the telescreen is of their party and directs the five minutes of hate against the correct target ("down with the 1% and income inequality!").

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So you are ready to put the NSA in jail too? They are the bigger traitors. They spied on you for crying out loud. No one would bat an eye if they just spied on foreigners.

The one you quoted is just a sycophant making things up, but I think you need to reconsider the NSA here.

Everyone needs to understand that blaming the NSA is like blaming the military for killing people. No, no, no. The military kills when directed. The NSA does what it does because that's what it was tasked with. The methods it used are approved. The apologists will deny, but that is how it is. I can hear "Oh, but My Dear Leaders didn't know!" Well that's nonsense. It's their job to provide oversight and direction. When in terms of legal accountability there is a phrase to the effect of "knew or should have known". If someone is sued for malpractice ignorance isn't a defense. Ignorance of the law removing remedial action or punishment? See how far that goes in front of a judge, yet that's what the Faithful insist in terms of accountability for Their Own.

It's isn't the NSA that is the problem it's the hacks and their demigods in DC which are the causes of many evils afflicting us.

 

[Fox5]

The one you quoted is just a sycophant making things up, but I think you need to reconsider the NSA here.

Everyone needs to understand that blaming the NSA is like blaming the military for killing people. No, no, no. The military kills when directed. The NSA does what it does because that's what it was tasked with. The methods it used are approved. The apologists will deny, but that is how it is. I can hear "Oh, but My Dear Leaders didn't know!" Well that's nonsense. It's their job to provide oversight and direction. When in terms of legal accountability there is a phrase to the effect of "knew or should have known". If someone is sued for malpractice ignorance isn't a defense. Ignorance of the law removing remedial action or punishment? See how far that goes in front of a judge, yet that's what the Faithful insist in terms of accountability for Their Own.

It's isn't the NSA that is the problem it's the hacks and their demigods in DC which are the causes of many evils afflicting us.

This. It's called the military-industrial complex, and the government is fully complicit in it.

 

[rudeguy]

The one you quoted is just a sycophant making things up, but I think you need to reconsider the NSA here.

Everyone needs to understand that blaming the NSA is like blaming the military for killing people. No, no, no. The military kills when directed. The NSA does what it does because that's what it was tasked with. The methods it used are approved. The apologists will deny, but that is how it is. I can hear "Oh, but My Dear Leaders didn't know!" Well that's nonsense. It's their job to provide oversight and direction. When in terms of legal accountability there is a phrase to the effect of "knew or should have known". If someone is sued for malpractice ignorance isn't a defense. Ignorance of the law removing remedial action or punishment? See how far that goes in front of a judge, yet that's what the Faithful insist in terms of accountability for Their Own.

It's isn't the NSA that is the problem it's the hacks and their demigods in DC which are the causes of many evils afflicting us.

And now we start getting into the real problem.

Obama and his staff deny knowledge every time a scandal pops up. He and his staff are either the most ignorant regime every or they are liars. Possibly both. The directive to do these things has to come from the top. Are we supposed to believe that some random agents created these massive domestic spying programs?

The truth is that the government sees this as another way to keep the average citizen in check. They hope they can hide behind secrecy to never have to defend it but are ready to stand on the graves of innocent people to justify it if need be. Its not a dem/repub thing. Its the way all government morons think.

And I think they should be prosecuted for it.

 

[sdifox]

The one you quoted is just a sycophant making things up, but I think you need to reconsider the NSA here.

Everyone needs to understand that blaming the NSA is like blaming the military for killing people. No, no, no. The military kills when directed. The NSA does what it does because that's what it was tasked with. The methods it used are approved. The apologists will deny, but that is how it is. I can hear "Oh, but My Dear Leaders didn't know!" Well that's nonsense. It's their job to provide oversight and direction. When in terms of legal accountability there is a phrase to the effect of "knew or should have known". If someone is sued for malpractice ignorance isn't a defense. Ignorance of the law removing remedial action or punishment? See how far that goes in front of a judge, yet that's what the Faithful insist in terms of accountability for Their Own.

It's isn't the NSA that is the problem it's the hacks and their demigods in DC which are the causes of many evils afflicting us.

Just answering that idiot. I am not letting congress and the president (current and former) off the hook either.

 

[fleshconsumed]

I think Snowden has done a great service to the people and the nation. Sadly it looks like his sacrifice was in vain.

That said, I fail to see how his actions deserve a Nobel Peace Prize. There are probably dozens if not hundreds of more deserving nominees. However, I do think it would be highly ironic if Snowden won this years prize considering the 2009 Nobel Prize Winner. So small part of me hopes he wins just for the irony alone.