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Edmunds: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe First Drive

Hyundai has come out with some very nice cars of of late; Its a shame people cringe if you tell them you drive one. It seems the initial thought when hearing the name Hyundai is "cheap" both the price and the car quality and most Americans don't consider them when buying.
 
32V V6. Seems a little weird. That means an odd number of intake/exhaust valves for each cylinder? I had a friend who had a 12V Honda 2.0 I4 in a mid-80's Prelude back in the day.

What would be the purpose of adding more valves instead of making the existing ones more efficient? How would they lay it out?

Other than that, I've been looking forward to this thing hitting the streets for some time, it's good to know it's not a disappointment.
 
Also notice : "if the turbocharged, intercooled, 212-hp 2.9-liter inline-4 is doing business under the hood, the car weighs 3,439 pounds."

Wow. Seems like the 4-banger will be a modder's dream. 2.9L is BIG for a 4-banger. And an intercooler right off the bat? That thing has to be doing almost no boost. 212HP from a turbo 2.9L? Once the ECU software is cracked, I'd bet we see tuning options for this like you wouldn't believe. ~300hp should be attainable I would think, though it might require a larger turbo if the stock one is really tiny. Replacing the turbo with something serious would probably net ~350hp+, which would be only marginally more than ~100hp/L, which is pretty easy with a turbo setup.
 
Originally posted by: Arkaign
32V V6. Seems a little weird. That means an odd number of intake/exhaust valves for each cylinder? I had a friend who had a 12V Honda 2.0 I4 in a mid-80's Prelude back in the day.

What would be the purpose of adding more valves instead of making the existing ones more efficient? How would they lay it out?

Other than that, I've been looking forward to this thing hitting the streets for some time, it's good to know it's not a disappointment.
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That has to be a misprint because 32 is not divisible by 6. A 30-valve V6 would have 5 valves/cylinder. They probably meant a 24-valve V6 but were thinking about a V8 (a V8 with 4 valves/cylinder has 32 valves) by accident.

It's easier to optimize smaller valves (because there are fewer strength/heat dissipation concerns) but optimization is more critical on the intake side. This means that you get a lot of benefit from having two intake valves and just one large exhaust valve. Not as much as 4 valves, but far more than just half the benefit. It's a good compromise.

As for the turbo 2.9, yes, that should be a hell of an engine. It's easy to get 300+hp out of the old 2.5 litre I4 in the 944 series. A modern engine should be able to do better, especially with a 400cc advantage.

ZV
 
Genesis Coupe has been available in Korea quite while, and I've only heard about good things; good engine, good tranny, good driving dynamic, good safety, and well-built. I really hope it does some good jobs in US, so I can get a good deal on G37 in few years. (lol) I just don't want to drive another Hyundai (my first car was Hyundai) as a Korean who grew up in Korea watching Hyundai cars 24/7/365 for 19 years.
 
212 seems a little underpowered for that 4. that's about what i'd expect from a 2 L turbo 4.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
212 seems a little underpowered for that 4. that's about what i'd expect from a 2 L turbo 4.
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Well, Hyundai's engine has had quiet low HP/L ratio compare to the competitor's. I am guessing because of their lack of how-to on VVT, but maybe they just want to detune engine to improve reliability, not sure. I mean, even 3.8L V6 Lambda only makes 299 HP/266 ft-lb, and yet, it's the highest output for that engine so far (One in Genesis sedan makes 290 HP, One in Azera makes 265 HP)
 
Originally posted by: everydae
Originally posted by: ElFenix
212 seems a little underpowered for that 4. that's about what i'd expect from a 2 L turbo 4.
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Well, Hyundai's engine has had quiet low HP/L ratio compare to the competitor's. I am guessing because of their lack of how-to on VVT, but maybe they just want to detune engine to improve reliability, not sure. I mean, even 3.8L V6 Lambda only makes 299 HP/266 ft-lb, and yet, it's the highest output for that engine so far (One in Genesis sedan makes 290 HP, One in Azera makes 265 HP)
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Either for reliability or easy future power gains by cranking up the boost without doing anything else short of an ECU flash.

 
Originally posted by: chorb
Hyundai has come out with some very nice cars of of late; Its a shame people cringe if you tell them you drive one. It seems the initial thought when hearing the name Hyundai is "cheap" both the price and the car quality and most Americans don't consider them when buying.
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marked for later. Hyundai is really stepping it up...it won't be long before people will be very proud to own a Hyundai if they keep this up.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
212 seems a little underpowered for that 4. that's about what i'd expect from a 2 L turbo 4.
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The 2L Ecotec LNF makes 260/260 turbo'd, and 290/340 with the GM tune. These numbers seem way low.
 
Maybe they meant 1.9 liter for the I4? I like the way it looks. Kind of like a sleeker Accord Coupe and better in every way. Too bad it's on the large/heavy side. A foot and 200 pounds less and that thing would give the new Z a run for the money.
 
With all the snow & generally shit weather in Oregon the last couple weeks I spent a lot of time driving my g/f's 06 V6 Sonata. The more I drive it the more I like it. I glanced over a Genesis sedan at the dealership the last time I took her car in, I really do like it. I would want the V8 but that coupe is beautiful.

Viper GTS
 
The rumors early on were that Hyundai had the tuning crowd in mind with the turbo 4, and that they were expecting that to be the engine of choice for people who wanted to mod for the most horsepower. As others have mentioned, it must be running next to no boost stock.

This car is very appealing, especially as a non-mullet alternative to the Mustang, or as a budget alternative to the new Z.
 
So what is he street price supposed to be on the various trims levels? The more I look at this thing, the slicker it looks. Too bad the car sales industry is in the crapper right now. This thing could turn some heads.
 
Originally posted by: vi edit
So what is he street price supposed to be on the various trims levels? The more I look at this thing, the slicker it looks. Too bad the car sales industry is in the crapper right now. This thing could turn some heads.
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I think the base model is supposed to be below 30k
 
Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
32-valve, 3.8-liter Lambda V6
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the turbocharged, intercooled, 212-hp 2.9-liter inline-4
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A V6 with 5 and 1/3 valves per cylinder?

A 2.9L 4-cylinder engine? Is this thing going in a truck? 😀


Good article! 😛
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I'm pretty sure the Edmunds crew were drunk off their asses for New Year's when they wrote those specs.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: chorb
Hyundai has come out with some very nice cars of of late; Its a shame people cringe if you tell them you drive one. It seems the initial thought when hearing the name Hyundai is "cheap" both the price and the car quality and most Americans don't consider them when buying.
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that... looks great in red btw. Anyway, if you have $35k to spend on any vehicle, you may very well consider it on paper, but when it comes down to it, would you actually hand all that hard earned cash to Hyundai considering everything else you could get?

I personally think they should've changed their image with the introduction of that Accord/Camry beater Sonata a few years back. Update their logo... show people change [we can believe in]... something like that could go a long way.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: chorb
Hyundai has come out with some very nice cars of of late; Its a shame people cringe if you tell them you drive one. It seems the initial thought when hearing the name Hyundai is "cheap" both the price and the car quality and most Americans don't consider them when buying.
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this
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that... looks great in red btw. Anyway, if you have $35k to spend on any vehicle, you may very well consider it on paper, but when it comes down to it, would you actually hand all that hard earned cash to Hyundai considering everything else you could get?

I personally think they should've changed their image with the introduction of that Accord/Camry beater Sonata a few years back. Update their logo... show people change [we can believe in]... something like that could go a long way.
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$35K?

this car is supposed to start at about 21k...
 
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