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Originally posted by: Jules
Originally posted by: ducci
I got back into playing console games last April so both consoles were out - I picked the 360. Today, a whole year later, I would make the same decision.

From a pure gaming perspective, there is really no reason to get a PS3 over a 360. Live is superior, the game selection is better, achievements are fun, and the community is larger. Yes, things like reliability, wifi, and blu-ray can make your choice more difficult, but I am fairly apathetic about these things and just wish to play games.

Maybe in a year this will change with the PS3 getting noteworthy exclusives and Live-like service (I am skeptical at best). Until then, solely for the purpose of games, there's very little reason to go out and buy a PS3 now.

Theres plenty or reasons to buy PS3.

Such as....?

I mean, I don't disagree. It is a quality console and I wouldn't mind having one. But for me, like the majority of other households, there's only room/money for one console - so you typically need to weigh the pros and cons and make a choice.

The article in the OP is pretty poorly written, but writing style aside, it goes with the same route I've seen just about every PS3 defendant go - future rewards outweigh present value.

Yes, great exclusives like GT5 and Resistance 2, and Killzone 2, etc, etc are coming out in the future. Home and Little Big Planet, too. But guess what, I want to play games right now. I also want to play them online - with friends. And I want to talk to my friends while I play. These are video game consoles, not long-term investments. The article claims software should be the ultimate factor in deciding to buy a console - the current amount of quality games currently available for the 360 far outweighs the PS3's offerings.

Don't get me wrong, I am not going to claim that the PS3 has nothing to offer right now, though. It does. But the vast majority of worthwhile games on the console are also readily available on the 360 - with achievements, a larger online community, and typically a stalemate in terms of visual quality/performance. You could be in the small group of people who claim that the noise of the 360's DVD drive makes their ears bleed or whatever, and really if you're that anal about it then definitely, for the sake of your ears, go with the PS3. But normal human beings can overlook these things.

The current PS3 exclusives are good, though small. Nothing epic as of yet, and nothing worth buying a console for - sit down Uncharted fans - it's a magnificent rental, but don't kid yourself claiming it's anything more.

The controller issue is definitely personal preference, but I am finding it is a Western/Eastern difference. By looking at both, you can instantly see which console is from an American company, and which is from a Japanese one. The 360 is clearly catering to the typically western FPS fan. Bigger-sized (for bigger hands), solid triggers, and tight analog sticks that are concave. The PS3 has gone with the traditional Sony controller - small, sleek, much better for menu navigation than FPS's.

Everything else is a wash. And everything else in the OP article is meaningless nonsense the writer adds to try to convince the reader he really is a "seasoned gamer".

If you care about stuff like Blu-ray or are scared of being without a console for a couple weeks, then maybe your decision gets more complicated. It should. It's your money, you do what you want with it. But to try and logic through a PS3 purchase as being better for the sole purpose of playing games... eh, I find it very difficult.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Jules
Originally posted by: ducci
I got back into playing console games last April so both consoles were out - I picked the 360. Today, a whole year later, I would make the same decision.

From a pure gaming perspective, there is really no reason to get a PS3 over a 360. Live is superior, the game selection is better, achievements are fun, and the community is larger. Yes, things like reliability, wifi, and blu-ray can make your choice more difficult, but I am fairly apathetic about these things and just wish to play games.

Maybe in a year this will change with the PS3 getting noteworthy exclusives and Live-like service (I am skeptical at best). Until then, solely for the purpose of games, there's very little reason to go out and buy a PS3 now.

Theres plenty or reasons to buy PS3.

yea i can give you about 3-4 reasons to get a ps3 over an xbox360.

same goes for the other way.
 

Dacalo

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The reason I got a PS3 is because many great exclusive games on the 360 are available/will be available on PC and I have a decent PC.
 

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Originally posted by: ducci
Such as....?

I mean, I don't disagree. It is a quality console and I wouldn't mind having one. But for me, like the majority of other households, there's only room/money for one console - so you typically need to weigh the pros and cons and make a choice.

The article in the OP is pretty poorly written, but writing style aside, it goes with the same route I've seen just about every PS3 defendant go - future rewards outweigh present value.

Yes, great exclusives like GT5 and Resistance 2, and Killzone 2, etc, etc are coming out in the future. Home and Little Big Planet, too. But guess what, I want to play games right now. I also want to play them online - with friends. And I want to talk to my friends while I play. These are video game consoles, not long-term investments. The article claims software should be the ultimate factor in deciding to buy a console - the current amount of quality games currently available for the 360 far outweighs the PS3's offerings.

Don't get me wrong, I am not going to claim that the PS3 has nothing to offer right now, though. It does. But the vast majority of worthwhile games on the console are also readily available on the 360 - with achievements, a larger online community, and typically a stalemate in terms of visual quality/performance. You could be in the small group of people who claim that the noise of the 360's DVD drive makes their ears bleed or whatever, and really if you're that anal about it then definitely, for the sake of your ears, go with the PS3. But normal human beings can overlook these things.

The current PS3 exclusives are good, though small. Nothing epic as of yet, and nothing worth buying a console for - sit down Uncharted fans - it's a magnificent rental, but don't kid yourself claiming it's anything more.

The controller issue is definitely personal preference, but I am finding it is a Western/Eastern difference. By looking at both, you can instantly see which console is from an American company, and which is from a Japanese one. The 360 is clearly catering to the typically western FPS fan. Bigger-sized (for bigger hands), solid triggers, and tight analog sticks that are concave. The PS3 has gone with the traditional Sony controller - small, sleek, much better for menu navigation than FPS's.

Everything else is a wash. And everything else in the OP article is meaningless nonsense the writer adds to try to convince the reader he really is a "seasoned gamer".

If you care about stuff like Blu-ray or are scared of being without a console for a couple weeks, then maybe your decision gets more complicated. It should. It's your money, you do what you want with it. But to try and logic through a PS3 purchase as being better for the sole purpose of playing games... eh, I find it very difficult.

I own all three consoles, so I'm not really speaking from true experience here. However, if the buyer has a gaming PC, as I do, then the 360 really doesn't offer anything unique, which is less than the small exclusives the PS3 has.

Really, as you said, a lot of the pull of the PS3 is the "future". Also, the PS3 still carries a bit of leftover feelings from it's predecessor, the PS2. Also, quite plainly, there are certain types of games on the PS3 that will never come out on the 360, not that most Americans care.

Besides that, the only reasons I could think of are bias in looks/controllers as you mentioned and blu-ray.
 

BenSkywalker

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I have all three consoles and being forced to pick one as a HD gaming platform I would have to go with the PS3 at this point.

There are several reasons, first I like the PS3 controller better, mind you I couldn't stand the PS2 controller but the simply adjustment of having range of motion in the shoulder buttons really helped it out a ton. Cross platform titles I like better on the PS3 for one reason most people seem to ignore but I really care about- PS3 loads games faster overwhelmingly. I loathe sitting at now loading screens, PS3 doesn't eliminate these but they are more tollerable then they are on the 360 overall.

360 exclusives- probably the biggest reason why I ended up enjoying my PS3 more is Halo2. What did Bungie do with that one, take a crap on a keyboard and compile it? Absolutely horrid game, and I was a huge fan of the original. Because of this, I have never bothered touching Halo3, may consider it when it hits the $5 bin but that would be the upper limit on what I would be willing to pay for it. Take Halo out of the equation and the 360 has pretty much nothing truly exclusive worth while. Forza2 was OK, I honestly picked up a 360 for that game in particular, but in the end it is a slightly prettier version of the first game and that's about it. I can't stand what they do with the GT series for the record, don't have a lot of hope for racers this gen at this point honestly. Sad to say I have gotten more satisfaction out of Burnout Paradise then any of the 'real' racing games this generation.

Also, while some people may not consider it important, the BluRay player in the PS3 helps me out a lot in swaying my decission. I only own like a dozen BluRay titles to date, so not an overwhelming factor, but it is very nice to have a dual duty device. I also like PS3's on line model better. Yes, you heard that right. I paid for Live for a couple of years when I realized I was hardly using it. Now, if I pick up a game and think maybe I want to give the online component a shot with the 360 I have to go buy a subscription to do it. Live is way more polished atm, no doubt about that, but it is pretty much a waste of money if you aren't going to use it regularly(I play WoW, I am in NO way opposed to paying a recurring fee if I feel I'm getting some value ;) ).

Side note- because I own all of the systems when a cross platform title does come out even if it weren't for the slight edge in load times I would still pick them up for the PS3 because, as sad as it is to imagine, I think Sony has better durability then MS this generation. Seven dead PSs and six dead PS2s for the record(Sony is one of the poorest companies QC wise IMO in the world, seems MS had to try hard to beat them there but they managed).
 

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Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
There are several reasons, first I like the PS3 controller better, mind you I couldn't stand the PS2 controller but the simply adjustment of having range of motion in the shoulder buttons really helped it out a ton. Cross platform titles I like better on the PS3 for one reason most people seem to ignore but I really care about- PS3 loads games faster overwhelmingly. I loathe sitting at now loading screens, PS3 doesn't eliminate these but they are more tollerable then they are on the 360 overall.

I assume you're talking about games that install stuff on the hard drive? Because the Blu-ray drive in the PS3 is much slower than the DVD drive in the Xbox 360.
 

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Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
There are several reasons, first I like the PS3 controller better, mind you I couldn't stand the PS2 controller but the simply adjustment of having range of motion in the shoulder buttons really helped it out a ton. Cross platform titles I like better on the PS3 for one reason most people seem to ignore but I really care about- PS3 loads games faster overwhelmingly. I loathe sitting at now loading screens, PS3 doesn't eliminate these but they are more tollerable then they are on the 360 overall.

Wow, Ben. To be able to make that comparison, you must be quite a hardcore gamer to own several, duplicate titles for each of the two gaming platforms.
 

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Some good points there, Skywalker. I'll juxtapose a few of those strong points, with what I feel are a few weak ones.

The load screens may be faster, but when I d/l a demo, a game, or a system update, it is a lengthier and more involved process than on the 360. I also consider the PS3 controller to be a bit too small, and agree with criticisms made by others about the "marshmallow" triggers.

Those are all minor gripes though, and fortunately we aren't forced to choose just one console.
 

skace

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PSX and PS2 did have shitty reliability. You weren't a gamer if you didn't have to play your PSX upside down to get it to read CDs or open your PS2 up and change the gear ratio depending on whether you wanted to play CD or DVD games. It's that simple. But I never had to send my console into MS just to get it to work either. I think that's where I draw the line, if I have to send you the hardware and wait 3 months, well you just fucking keep it because I'm about done with it at that point.

Thing is, I don't think a positive article about PSX and PS2 has any bearing whatsoever on the PS3. Anyone who goes into consoles thinking that already has name brand on their mind, which is exactly what the author was knocking in his opening paragraph.
 

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I *could* get a PS3 and a Wii to complement my Xbox 360, but I just don't see the point. I don't want an entertainment center overflowing with consoles. I went the 360 route for several key reasons:

1. The games: Gears of War. Forza Motorsport 2. Case closed (for me).

2. The network: Xbox Live is unmatched. Personally, I think quibbling over a $50 annual fee is rather trivial. For this reason, Sony gets 0 points for having a free network. The features and reliability of Xbox Live more than deserve my $50, and I'm happy to pay it.

3. The controllers: Everyone has their preference, but I happen to like the 360's controllers. They fit my hand like a glove.

While the Playstation line has had its fair share of problems, NO ONE can argue the dismal yield of 360's. Fortunately for Microsoft, their exclusives and their network make up for the reliability... but I won't be so tolerant come the next generation. If this happens again, I will head to Sony without thinking twice. It would also be nice if they could produce an Xbox that doesn't sound like a jet turbine.

That said, Sony needs to step it up in terms of their online presence. A lot of people who choose the Xbox over the Playstation do so because of the network.
 

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
I *could* get a PS3 and a Wii to complement my Xbox 360, but I just don't see the point. I don't want an entertainment center overflowing with consoles. I went the 360 route for several key reasons:

1. The games: Gears of War. Forza Motorsport 2. Case closed (for me).
2. The network: Xbox Live is unmatched. Personally, I think quibbling over a $50 annual fee is rather trivial. For this reason, Sony gets 0 points for having a free network. The features and reliability of Xbox Live more than deserve my $50, and I'm happy to pay it.
3. The controllers: Everyone has their preference, but I happen to like the 360's controllers. They fit my hand like a glove.

Same here.

Except for me:

1 - Games: I got the 360 for Gears and Halo series.
2 - Network: AFAIK, the "silver" membership is free. $50 for the gold just gets you extra content.
3 - Controllers: For my hands, the Xbox controller >>>>>> PS3 controller. The original xbox controllers were the best and the 360 ones are a close 2nd. The joysticks feel better and the button placement seems more natural than the PS2/3 controllers.

I'll probably pick up a PS3 when the price starts dropping. I picked up a PS2 when it hit $200.

 

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
I *could* get a PS3 and a Wii to complement my Xbox 360, but I just don't see the point. I don't want an entertainment center overflowing with consoles. I went the 360 route for several key reasons:

1. The games: Gears of War. Forza Motorsport 2. Case closed (for me).

2. The network: Xbox Live is unmatched. Personally, I think quibbling over a $50 annual fee is rather trivial. For this reason, Sony gets 0 points for having a free network. The features and reliability of Xbox Live more than deserve my $50, and I'm happy to pay it.

3. The controllers: Everyone has their preference, but I happen to like the 360's controllers. They fit my hand like a glove.

While the Playstation line has had its fair share of problems, NO ONE can argue the dismal yield of 360's. Fortunately for Microsoft, their exclusives and their network make up for the reliability... but I won't be so tolerant come the next generation. If this happens again, I will head to Sony without thinking twice. It would also be nice if they could produce an Xbox that doesn't sound like a jet turbine.

That said, Sony needs to step it up in terms of their online presence. A lot of people who choose the Xbox over the Playstation do so because of the network.

:thumbsup:

I am still resisting temptation for the Halo 3 or Elite Edition 360 on Newegg. :)

Any new news on HOME for the PS3 ? Ive been searching online but nothing new so far.
 

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Originally posted by: JPB
Any new news on HOME for the PS3 ? Ive been searching online but nothing new so far.

Public beta this fall... or maybe winter. It should, in theory, be released before the PS4.
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: JPB
Any new news on HOME for the PS3 ? Ive been searching online but nothing new so far.

Public beta this fall... or maybe winter. It should, in theory, be released before the PS4.

:laugh: Good one :) And I kind of do agree with that. lol.

But yea, it may be another year or so before its running like it should be. Home that is.

Well, guess ill have to wait and see how it turns out this fall.

And another thing, The Jasper version of the 360's, will there be any Elites or Limited type editions ?

Reason I ask that is, I am tempted to get a Elite or Halo 3 Edition now instead of waiting. But once Jasper hits, I would rather have a Jasper Elite.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: JPB
Any new news on HOME for the PS3 ? Ive been searching online but nothing new so far.

Public beta this fall... or maybe winter. It should, in theory, be released before the PS4.

:laugh:

Me? I love my PS3, and have absolutely zero need for, or even want a 360. I also have a Wii that is basically collecting dust, but I refuse to sell it. Its fun to break out games like Mario Party or other group-based games when people are over and they want to play that type of game.

As for the 360. Don't need it. PS3 exclusives interest me more. 360 exclusives aren't completely exclusive, as they show up on the PC, and I'd prefer to game on my PC. Makes the PC investment feel more worth it, and I prefer mouse and keyboard over controller for most games. PS3 exclusives tend to be only available on the PS3 and not the PC, and I enjoy them anyhow. Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk, Rockband, Skate, and GTA IV keep me pretty entertained.

I don't play a lot of multiplayer, so the free network really wins me over. I don't feel I play enough online to justify paying. Also, while things like in-game messaging are coming very soon (some hint VERY soon, around MGS4's launch, another game I am picking up). However, messaging in-game isn't a big thing for me. If I'm in a game, I most likely don't want to bother typing something to someone, but I admit I will likely use it, although infrequently. Using on-screen controls to type anyhow really annoys me. Plus, I have a phone to text people if its someone I actually know in real life and not just a gaming buddy online.

While I prefer the comfort of the 360's controller, I can sense it would grow uncomfortable after a long play session, and while sometimes the concave analog pads allow better use of analog controls, I also feel the opposite and at times the convex nature of the PS3's sticks are better. Skate sticks out like a sore thumb here, because that coupled with the larger area of movement for the PS3 analog sticks, controlling the character and board is a breeze compared to the 360. My buddy has it for his 360, and I have it for my PS3. Other than that, the PS3 controller, while not exactly as immediately comfortable, doesn't bother me during longer play sessions, and the controls are just so ingrained into my muscle memory that I have no problems playing any game. That's the one nice thing of it staying the same shape as the past iterations of the controller. But I would like a move to a slightly different, more comfortable shape, where I can completely rest my hands. Still not sold on the analog stick being where it is on the 360. Not sure if its the size of the controller, or just that it feels slightly alien to me... but I can't quite tell whether I'd prefer it one way or the other. Only way I could tell, is if Sony placed the left joystick where the dpad is, and use basically the same shape of the controller now.

Now, only reason I'd like a 360, or better, for my friends to have a PS3, is to be able to play online with them. As of now, I remain the only person to have a PS3. I know one person who has it, but he doesn't really play much other than sports games.

I picked up my PS3 a few weeks after launch as soon as I could find one (sold my reserved launch unit), so reliability was unknown at the time, but it's a damn nice bonus. Also, Blu-ray is freaking awesome, and love that I have access to it. I have a decent library of BD titles already, and rent them with my Blockbuster Total Access account.

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Aikouka

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I have 'em both and don't really play either of them. Although, I do own many, many more games for the 360 than I do for the PS3. Most of the PS3's exclusive titles don't really grab me. I think the only ones I'll buy are FF Versus XIII, Folklore (already have it) and R&C (already have it).

But the article makes one bad generality... brand loyalty != fanboyism. Brand loyalty are those old timers you know that only buy one type of car and will never buy another, regardless. A fanboy can switch brands every console generation and have absolutely no brand loyalty. Also, someone with brand loyalty is not necessarily a fanboy if they can present their reasons that include more than just "PS3 RULZ!! 360 SUX0RZ" (or vice-versa).

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
The load screens may be faster, but when I d/l a demo, a game, or a system update, it is a lengthier and more involved process than on the 360. I also consider the PS3 controller to be a bit too small, and agree with criticisms made by others about the "marshmallow" triggers.

The PS3 has a painful install process and I rarely have enough room on my 360 'cause I tend to leave demos on it to avoid having to download them again if I decide to play them on a whim. I'm spoiled with my multiple TBs available on my PC that I got into the habit of simply getting more storage space rather than archiving and I can't do that with my 360. So in other words, the PS3 is annoying when it comes to installing and sometimes larger download sizes and the 360 is annoying with the pitiful space (and insane cost of enlarging said space... if only the elite were out when I bought my 360).
 

RagingBITCH

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Everyone has different preferences...why do people keep wanting to argue this? Person A likes Console A better, Person B likes Console B better. Who gives a crap?
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Everyone has different preferences...why do people keep wanting to argue this? Person A likes Console A better, Person B likes Console B better. Who gives a crap?

You don't like the console I own?! WHY NOT?! MY CONSOLE IS SUPERIOR!! You shell revel in its awesomness, and I will beat the reasons its superior into your thick skull until you give up!

It's a natural tendency for people to want to believe the choices they made are the only good choice, and this is where fanboyism is bred. Especially in the days where a family owned a single console, so the gamer didn't want to feel inferior to the group.

If I didn't own a PC built with gaming in mind, I'd probably own a 360, and thus I'd own all 3 current gen consoles. And I can see people not wanting a PS3 because the exclusives don't interest them that much, and they feel like they have a larger gaming library.
In my eyes, with the vast majority of the 360's games available on PC, I feel like that isn't really true. But that wouldn't be the case if I didn't own said gaming pc.
I was a Nintendo kid growing up, because thats what we kids had. SNES, N64. Then I got a PS towards the end of that gen, the PS2 came out and I picked that up. Never got a Gamecube, and bought an Xbox when it was cheap and owned it for about a year. Now that I see what one of my roommates did last year with his xbox, modded and had all the classic emulators on it.. I realize I should have kept my xbox. Oh well.

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Originally posted by: Aikouka


The PS3 has a painful install process and I rarely have enough room on my 360 'cause I tend to leave demos on it to avoid having to download them again if I decide to play them on a whim. I'm spoiled with my multiple TBs available on my PC that I got into the habit of simply getting more storage space rather than archiving and I can't do that with my 360. So in other words, the PS3 is annoying when it comes to installing and sometimes larger download sizes and the 360 is annoying with the pitiful space (and insane cost of enlarging said space... if only the elite were out when I bought my 360).
MS definitely sticks it to us on some of the peripherals, storage in particular. Being able to use a memory card that works with other devices would have been good too. Not giving us built-in wi-fi is another sore spot for me, always trying to squeeze a little more out of us after the initial purchase/nickel and dime us.
 

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
There are several reasons, first I like the PS3 controller better, mind you I couldn't stand the PS2 controller but the simply adjustment of having range of motion in the shoulder buttons really helped it out a ton. Cross platform titles I like better on the PS3 for one reason most people seem to ignore but I really care about- PS3 loads games faster overwhelmingly. I loathe sitting at now loading screens, PS3 doesn't eliminate these but they are more tollerable then they are on the 360 overall.

I assume you're talking about games that install stuff on the hard drive? Because the Blu-ray drive in the PS3 is much slower than the DVD drive in the Xbox 360.

Who cares about how it's done? It's just faster.
 

BenSkywalker

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Wow, Ben. To be able to make that comparison, you must be quite a hardcore gamer to own several, duplicate titles for each of the two gaming platforms.

I have kids :)

My oldest son has a 360 but wasn't too worried about getting a PS3(partly because I had one, even though he insisted on a 360 of his own). Think he is changing his mind at this point, he seems to be on my PS3 a lot more then his 360 at least(although, his Wii still has most of his gaming attention).

Biggest difference I noticed was in DMC4 out of the titles I tried so far. Not that it was the biggest improvement, but in terms of overall impact with how often you are loading in the game the extra ~30-50% speed in load times makes a rather large difference in the overall enjoyment factor. No, I don't buy games for both systems, but between my son renting and buying games and the games I do buy I do get to see a lot of how the cross platform titles stack up. For the most part we share all of our games, but we also don't check each other's libraries daily and particularly when newer games come out, we do end up cross buying them. He trades his in fairly regularly, and is big on renting- I think part of that is that he knows I will end up going to buy any game I really like anyway, so he'll still get to play it.

The load screens may be faster, but when I d/l a demo, a game, or a system update, it is a lengthier and more involved process than on the 360.

Very true, however I find it a lot less annoying on the PS3 when I don't feel like installing a particular update. I have a wife, she dishes out my daily dose of listening to someone nag, I don't need my console to do it too.

I also consider the PS3 controller to be a bit too small, and agree with criticisms made by others about the "marshmallow" triggers.

I actually prefer 'S' to either of the new controllers, by a fairly decent margin. I have fairly large hands, all of the controllers are a decent amount smaller then what I would consider ideal, but the 'S' was the most comfortable of all of them IMO.

One thing the HD consoles do let me down on and very much so is the lack of decent BC. I don't get rid of my games, if the Wii had a cart slot most of the games they have up for sale from their retro selection I could just play from my existing library. Just the other day I was in the mood for some DQ- but alas my PS2 has replaced the middle sons dead one and I'm not about to move it around to my room just to play a bit of DQ for the hell of it. I fired up ED instead which worked nicely(thanks 'low tech' Wii).

Intersting little note- every console launched since '99 that had the best BC went on to win the generation.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
There are several reasons, first I like the PS3 controller better, mind you I couldn't stand the PS2 controller but the simply adjustment of having range of motion in the shoulder buttons really helped it out a ton. Cross platform titles I like better on the PS3 for one reason most people seem to ignore but I really care about- PS3 loads games faster overwhelmingly. I loathe sitting at now loading screens, PS3 doesn't eliminate these but they are more tollerable then they are on the 360 overall.

I assume you're talking about games that install stuff on the hard drive? Because the Blu-ray drive in the PS3 is much slower than the DVD drive in the Xbox 360.

Who cares about how it's done? It's just faster.

Just pointing out that it's not faster unless the game allows you to install it on the PS3 hard drive... And even then I don't think it's accurate to say "PS3 loads games faster overwhelmingly."
 

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Sorry, but this article is bull****. If you are a true gamer, you would own every console and not prefer one over another. How could someone who is not a "fanboy" despise the N64 and GC given some great exclusives that came out on those systems. And the Dreamcast... who didn't like that system? Also, Sony's consoles were/are the worst for hardware failures - they have always put together their consoles with cheap parts. I don't know a single person who didn't have DREs on their PS2.
 

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Originally posted by: rek075
Sorry, but this article is bull****. If you are a true gamer, you would own every console and not prefer one over another. How could someone who is not a "fanboy" despise the N64 and GC given some great exclusives that came out on those systems. And the Dreamcast... who didn't like that system? Also, Sony's consoles were/are the worst for hardware failures - they have always put together their consoles with cheap parts. I don't know a single person who didn't have DREs on their PS2.

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