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Editing and Creating HD Video, Home use.

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Blazer

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ive been looking around for a software program that will edit, cut and trim, and convert to another format, HD video from recorded atsc video source, typically 720p/1080i, free or paid as long as it works without crashing and a stand alone software package, will be used for home projects for playback using a HTPC, email sharing short clips and maybe uploading to youtube, having the ability to import video from my small HD 720p Sony Camera is also needed.

i dont think ill need professional software, i have found some that can be downloaded as a free trial but wanted some feedback from real users to get an ideal of whats involved before installing many trials, keep in mind that i am very green when it comes to such software, but i learn quick, a good end user forum would be a plus.

Q6700 on a Msi 975 PUE board
2 Gb Ram, Evga 7800GT Video card
WD 74Gb 10,000 rpm OS Drive
Vista Ult, Fresh install

Please share your opinions on the software you are using for Videos.
 
Sony Vegas seems decent, but it seems there are no decent windows video editing programs that are reliable. Lot of them crash for no reason. Premiere used to crash all the time on me, and Vegas seems to be fairly stable, but I hate how you cant cut video directly on the time line, you have to import in the "cutter" section then do your cuts there, then put the segments back on the time line. The cutter section tends to be unstable and crash a lot.

The best video editing program as far as features go that I've used was ulead, but it was VERY unstable. The crashes per minute grew exponentially based on how long the video was. Once you hit about an hour it would crash about every 2nd click. Basically, do a move, save, do a move, crash, reload, do a move, save, crash, do a move etc... it became very tedious.
 
You for cutting scene off a video file you can try Avidemux. If you want to convert to mp4/mkv containers you can try handbrake.
 
I use Premiere and Vegas Pro; both top notch video editing programs with a top shelf price tag to go with them. I suggest the $100 version of either program if you're not a professional. Check out the trial version of each; see which one you like better.
If you can get a workable video editing program for $100; it's well worth it.
Ulead Video Studio was easy to use but very limited in many ways. It is no longer around; Ulead was taken over by Corel.
Your system may not be able to handle the HD video that smoothly; you will probably want a "work" drive; a 1TB 7200rpm would be about right, in addition to your boot drive. Keep your programs on the 10K drive and save all your files and folders on the work drive. Your system will work better and you could fill up that 74G drive in a few hours of editing and rendering video.
 
RedSquirrel said:
Sony Vegas seems decent, but it seems there are no decent windows video editing programs that are reliable. Lot of them crash for no reason. Premiere used to crash all the time on me, and Vegas seems to be fairly stable, but I hate how you cant cut video directly on the time line, you have to import in the "cutter" section then do your cuts there, then put the segments back on the time line. The cutter section tends to be unstable and crash a lot.

The best video editing program as far as features go that I've used was ulead, but it was VERY unstable. The crashes per minute grew exponentially based on how long the video was. Once you hit about an hour it would crash about every 2nd click. Basically, do a move, save, do a move, crash, reload, do a move, save, crash, do a move etc... it became very tedious.
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On those issues, are you talking about Vegas or Premiere?
 
if you're using Windows 7, you should check out WLMM (Windows Live Movie Maker) http://download.live.com/moviemaker . (windows 7 doesn't come with it by default)

since Windows 7 can practically open any movie format, you can do some basic HD h.264 movie splicing/editing/transitions. although you're only limited to .wmv (VC-1 i think, at least), you can export into 720p or 1080p formats
 
If all you want to do is cut and splice clips then go with virtual dub the modified version. It is very easy to use and use low resources.
http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net/

You need to have codecs installed for the files you want to edit or it will not work.
Other programs like Premiere are good , but they have a lot of quirks and are overkill if all you want to do is cut and splice.

The people that made VLC media player are coming out with a cross platform editor but it isn't out yet. Should be good.
http://vlmc.org/
 
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Modelworks said:
If all you want to do is cut and splice clips and save them as something other than MPEG2 then go with virtual dub the modified version. It is very easy to use and use low resources.
http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net/
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This, fixed. 🙂 The only major thing virtualdubmod can't do is write MPEG1/2.

An alternative path that might be easier for you:

1. Edit your source ATSC with MPG2CUT2. It tolerates weird things that happen with broadcast ATSC, and hardly ever crashes. (Unlike AviDemux.)
2. To convert to other formats, use Handbrake.

I have no experience receiving from a camera, but I think you'd need VirtualDub(Mod) for that.

P.S. You asked about end-user forums?
 
well i thought my system could atleast be used as is to maybe try some of the many downloadable applications for editing video, so i installed Adobe Premiere Elements 8.0
2.66g in size, i imported and played a short clip @ 75.5 mb MP4 720p video, it Peg-ed my quadcore proc @ 85-100% and used 1.8gb of memory just to play the clip, that being the case i could never use adobe to edit my small projects so that one's out.


Sony's Vegas is way to costly too even consider.

Avid's Pinnacle Studio 14 would show white glitches when playing the same video but was much lighter on resources, so i may do a cleanup and retest this one.

Cyberlink's PowerDirector was 1.01gb trial download that i thought was just PowerDirector 8, it wasnt !, it was a complete suite of installed applications i have no intention of using, PowerDirector by itself was only 300mb in the folder, it played the same video without problems and was light [below 20% cpu useage] and only 1.01gb memory, after a cleanup i going to try and install just PowerDirector if i can exe just the .exe, i have emailed them about just the .exe for PowerDirector, maybe they will respond this year.

so i am trying guys, havent left the tread, any comments welcome.
 
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Gooberlx2 said:
Which version did you look at? Vegas Pro is expensive. Vegas Movie Studio is the consumer oriented version, around the same price as Adobe Premier Elements.
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didnt know that, ill have a look, is it stable and not a resource hog, i will also use the pc for office applications, web browsing and just daily task as i cant dedicate it to just a video editing station.
 
RedSquirrel said:
Sony Vegas seems decent, but it seems there are no decent windows video editing programs that are reliable. Lot of them crash for no reason. Premiere used to crash all the time on me, and Vegas seems to be fairly stable, but I hate how you cant cut video directly on the time line, you have to import in the "cutter" section then do your cuts there, then put the segments back on the time line. The cutter section tends to be unstable and crash a lot.
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I cut video all of the time on the timeline on Vegas Movie Studio. You just have to use the "s" button to split. You can also trim the beginnings and end of the clip by dragging the ends of said clip. Are we talking about the same thing?

I never use the stupid "cutter" section.

Also, just so you know you have to do some stupid DLL hack to prevent crashes when rendering on a 64bit system and rendered m2ts files will not work properly on Win 7 WMP unless you run them through tSmuxeR first.
 
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