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Double Trouble

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Well if I were to use your logic then i could say all the conservatives here are racist because they never condemn Spidey07 or Modest Gamer for their racist tirades (with the exception or Corn who tore Spidey07 a new one for it)

For that comparison to make sense, you'd have to first assume that everyone read his post (I have no idea which post you're referring to), and second that each conservative applauded his post and expressly agreed with it. I certainly haven't done so. The comparison is not valid.

The NAACP is like unions. The organization came about because of abuses and legitimate concerns and goals, but then over time gets corrupted by greed and desire for influence and power. Is there even a legitimate need for the NAACP anymore? I can't think of any reason for it's existence.....
 

FuzzyBee

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From that article

"The NAACP released a statement late Monday condemning Sherrod's admission.

"We are appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers," the statement said.

"Her actions were shameful," it continued."

Sounds like the NAACP isn't that racist organization Amused and his fellow travelers claime them to be.

They didn't seem to be appalled until this hit the news. The speech happened in March.
 

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The differnce is that, in the establishment's eyes, the NAACP incident will now go away but the Tea Party movement will forever be branded as racist no matter what they do to keep themselves free of racist elements.

From that article

"The NAACP released a statement late Monday condemning Sherrod's admission.

"We are appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers," the statement said.

"Her actions were shameful," it continued."

Sounds like the NAACP isn't that racist organization Amused and his fellow travelers claime them to be.

Of course to be fair the Tea party Federation also condemned the Tea Party Express or at least it's leader for being racist or at least racially insensitive for his blog.
 

classy

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From that article

"The NAACP released a statement late Monday condemning Sherrod's admission.

"We are appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers," the statement said.

"Her actions were shameful," it continued."

Sounds like the NAACP isn't that racist organization Amused and his fellow travelers claime them to be.

Of course to be fair the Tea party Federation also condemned the Tea Party Express or at least it's leader for being racist or at least racially insensitive for his blog.


And they also said they will take action against any NAACP reps who were at this event.

Also the story left out some facts

http://www.ajc.com/news/resigned-usda-official-says-574027.html

"For Fox to take a spin on this like they have done, and know it’s not the truth … it’s very upsetting," she said.

In the video Sherrod, who is black, admits to the crowd at the NAACP banquet she didn't do everything she could to help a white farmer whom she said was condescending when he came to her for aid.

"What he didn't know while he was taking all that time trying to show me he was superior to me was, I was trying to decide just how much help I was going to give him," Sherrod said in the video recorded March 27 in Douglas in southeast Georgia.

"I was struggling with the fact that so many black people had lost their farmland, and here I was faced with having to help a white person save their land. So I didn't give him the full force of what I could do. I did enough."

But Tuesday morning, Sherrod said what online viewers weren't told in reports posted throughout the day Monday was that the tale she told at the banquet happened 24 years ago -- before she got the USDA job -- when she worked with the Georgia field office for the Federation of Southern Cooperative/Land Assistance Fund.

Sherrod said the short video clip excluded the breadth of the story about how she eventually worked with the man over a two-year period to help ward off foreclosure of his farm, and how she eventually became friends with him and his wife.


"And I went on to work with many more white farmers," she said. "The story helped me realize that race is not the issue, it's about the people who have and the people who don't. When I speak to groups, I try to speak about getting beyond the issue of race."


It happened before her current job and she says she corrected herself since that experience. I wasn't there 24 years ago but when you read the rest of her remarks she was able to move past race. She shouldn't have quit either. I don't condone what she did 24 years ago, but everyone deserves the chance to redeem themselves.
 
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Zebo

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Interesting heads up, Classy. Seems Fox totally distorted...color me surprised.:p
 

Red Dawn

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Interesting heads up, Classy. Seems Fox totally distorted...color me surprised.:p

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Helter skelter, bnrnrnrnrnrnuooww....., bnrnrnrnrnrnuooww.....

Next thing you know black panthers are going to be intimidating....someone...and the DOJ will refuse to lock up black folks..

Helter skelter, bnrnrnrnrnrnuooww....., bnrnrnrnrnrnuooww.....

Get thine socialist basketball sneaker off whitey's neck!
 

xj0hnx

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And they also said they will take action against any NAACP reps who were at this event.

Also the story left out some facts

http://www.ajc.com/news/resigned-usda-official-says-574027.html




It happened before her current job and she says she corrected herself since that experience. I wasn't there 24 years ago but when you read the rest of her remarks she was able to move past race. She shouldn't have quit either. I don't condone what she did 24 years ago, but everyone deserves the chance to redeem themselves.

It's interesting watching the loony left exonerate their racist, but put such effort into creating racism where it doesn't exist in their political opponents.
 

waggy

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And they also said they will take action against any NAACP reps who were at this event.

Also the story left out some facts

http://www.ajc.com/news/resigned-usda-official-says-574027.html




It happened before her current job and she says she corrected herself since that experience. I wasn't there 24 years ago but when you read the rest of her remarks she was able to move past race. She shouldn't have quit either. I don't condone what she did 24 years ago, but everyone deserves the chance to redeem themselves.

while its good that she changed her ways. teh NCAAP and others really had no choice. she used her power to punish someone else based only on the color of the skin. the USDA really had not choice they couldn't keep her with saying she refused to help a white farmer because he was white. the NCAAP had to condemn her because she did what they have been against.

i applaud the women for changing her ways. but actions even done in the past can still hurt you. I do hope she really changed her ways and i wish her the best of luck. but i really don't have much sympathy for her.
 

waggy

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It's interesting watching the loony left exonerate their racist, but put such effort into creating racism where it doesn't exist in their political opponents.

are you saying that is nto racism? really?
 

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while its good that she changed her ways. teh NCAAP and others really had no choice. she used her power to punish someone else based only on the color of the skin. the USDA really had not choice they couldn't keep her with saying she refused to help a white farmer because he was white. the NCAAP had to condemn her because she did what they have been against.

i applaud the women for changing her ways. but actions even done in the past can still hurt you. I do hope she really changed her ways and i wish her the best of luck. but i really don't have much sympathy for her.

No, she did not.

She was working for another agency before the NAACP and while there, in a different time, was faced with an issue relating to race. She had a person of an opposite color coming to her for help, but being racist to her because he couldn't humble himself enough for her help. She recounted her initial reaction to be racist back, but eventually moved PAST that and instead they were both able to create common bonds beyond race. At which point they became friends and she helped saved his farm in the end.

Just foxnews cut out all the rest of the story she spoke and only used the part where she was talking about her initial reaction to his race. This was done to portray her and the NAACP in a negative light to get the spotlight off the tea party. Quite shameful if you ask me.
 

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Either she writes made for TV movies or she lives in one because her "whole" story sounds exactly like a made for TV movie.
 

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Just foxnews cut out all the rest of the story she spoke and only used the part where she was talking about her initial reaction to his race. This was done to portray her and the NAACP in a negative light to get the spotlight off the tea party. Quite shameful if you ask me.

Cool, you've seen the rest of the video. Please post a link.
 

waggy

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No, she did not.

She was working for another agency before the NAACP and while there, in a different time, was faced with an issue relating to race. She had a person of an opposite color coming to her for help, but being racist to her because he couldn't humble himself enough for her help. She recounted her initial reaction to be racist back, but eventually moved PAST that and instead they were both able to create common bonds beyond race. At which point they became friends and she helped saved his farm in the end.

Just foxnews cut out all the rest of the story she spoke and only used the part where she was talking about her initial reaction to his race. This was done to portray her and the NAACP in a negative light to get the spotlight off the tea party. Quite shameful if you ask me.

it does not matter if they became friends. while i am happy she changed her ways she did use her power to not help him fully because he was white

no matter how people want to spin it she was a racist.

i do agree fox and NAACP didn't go all the way. they should have condemned her for what she did but then show that people have the power to change. This lady could have been used (and i hope she does) as a example of what can happen. both negatively and postive
 

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No, she did not.

She was working for another agency before the NAACP and while there, in a different time, was faced with an issue relating to race. She had a person of an opposite color coming to her for help, but being racist to her because he couldn't humble himself enough for her help. She recounted her initial reaction to be racist back, but eventually moved PAST that and instead they were both able to create common bonds beyond race. At which point they became friends and she helped saved his farm in the end.

Just foxnews cut out all the rest of the story she spoke and only used the part where she was talking about her initial reaction to his race. This was done to portray her and the NAACP in a negative light to get the spotlight off the tea party. Quite shameful if you ask me.

You're as bad as FOX News. She sent him to a white lawyer so he could get help from "his own kind".
 

HumblePie

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You're as bad as FOX News. She sent him to a white lawyer so he could get help from "his own kind".

Again, that was part of her story. If the story is an anecdote to her initial racial response that she moved beyond to help this man and realized there is more to life, then this is a moot point.

waggy said:
it does not matter if they became friends. while i am happy she changed her ways she did use her power to not help him fully because he was white

She did get him the full help he needed and saved his farm according to this article. The point is this may be an anecdotal story she was relating to an audience that no one is immune to the initial response of racism. That to act on it would be bad and that moving past race could true bonds be formed. Again, that was also a different time, 1984, according to her and racial tensions were different then as well.

http://www.ajc.com/news/resigned-usda-official-says-574027.html

Which is the link that classy posted and you failed to read. As for the full video...

The AJC is trying to recover the full video footage of Sherrod's speech to the Douglas NAACP.

It seems someone at fox news has it and is not letting go of it.


All I'm saying is that there are two sides to this story. There is a very real chance that she and others in the article could be lying to cover their ass in stating the full video will show that the entire story was an anecdote to teach others about the problems with racism. Or it could be she is speaking the truth and seeking to recover the full video to redeem herself. In which case, this whole thread is full of nothing but faux outrage.
 
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werepossum

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Again, that was part of her story. She did get him the full help he needed and saved his farm.

http://www.ajc.com/news/resigned-usda-official-says-574027.html

Which is the link that classy posted and you failed to read. As for the full video...



It seems someone at fox news has it and is not letting go of it.


All I'm saying is that there are two sides to this story. There is a very real chance that she and others in the article could be lying to cover their ass in stating the full video will show that the entire story was an anecdote to teach others about the problems with racism. Or it could be she is speaking the truth and seeking to recover the full video to redeem herself. In which case, this whole thread is full of nothing but faux outrage.

Yeah, right. The only footage of an NAACP banquet is in the hands of evil Fox News.

Dumb ass.
 

HumblePie

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Yeah, right. The only footage of an NAACP banquet is in the hands of evil Fox News.

Dumb ass.

Well, biggovernment.com I guess. And yes it could be if it was anything like the company banquets I've been to. Basically the company hires a pro to film it and most of the people attending usually at most bring a regular snapshot camera.

Point is, there could be only one film of the entire thing and we haven't seen it all. We have two sides to a story and an editted film. To go about with name calling in this situation is a disgrace in my book there werepossum.
 

xj0hnx

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Well, biggovernment.com I guess. And yes it could be if it was anything like the company banquets I've been to. Basically the company hires a pro to film it and most of the people attending usually at most bring a regular snapshot camera.

Point is, there could be only one film of the entire thing and we haven't seen it all. We have two sides to a story and an editted film. To go about with name calling in this situation is a disgrace in my book there werepossum.

Doesn't look or sound like any pro I've ever seen, at least not that is still working filming events.

Or it could be she is speaking the truth and seeking to recover the full video to redeem herself. In which case, this whole thread is full of nothing but faux outrage.
Has she made any such public statements trying to reclaim her dignity?

Just foxnews cut out all the rest of the story she spoke and only used the part where she was talking about her initial reaction to his race. This was done to portray her and the NAACP in a negative light to get the spotlight off the tea party. Quite shameful if you ask me.
Ahhh, so there it is, the TEA Party. So this is just a ploy to take spotlight off the NAACP's bullshit trying to accuse the TEA Party of being racist? It's funnny watching the left's attempt to marginalize a group of people fall apart.
 

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You people do realize this has nothing to do with the NAACP. The story is about an employee of the USDA possibily having racist tendencies. Guess what, the USDA got rid of her. Something the Tea Pary to date has been unwilling to do.

BTW - If I was working for the USDA and someone I was there to help was being an asshole I wouldn't break my neck to help then either. Not because they were white but because they were an asshole.
 

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Doesn't look or sound like any pro I've ever seen, at least not that is still working filming events.

Has she made any such public statements trying to reclaim her dignity?

Did you not read the news article that has been linked THREE TIMES already? Yes, she has made a public statement. As for footage, it may not have been from a pro. Although I've seen some pretty bad "pros" who end up being someone's cousin trying to make a little money on the side and get hired out for cheap and do crap work. Or, it could have just been the secretary filming it as some of my company banquets were. 1 person gets assigned to film the whole thing and that's it. Sometimes a company hire's out a pro, sometimes they settle for 1 person filming. In which case, most people don't bring video cameras to events like that. They bring snapshot cameras. The point being, damn near every company picnic, banquet, or outting I've been to has only ever had 1 person filming if anyone. And this was for quite a few different companies too.

Also, even if there were more people filming, that doesn't mean she would know about it or if she did, even know who they are or were. Hence, why they are trying to recover the full footage.

You people do realize this has nothing to do with the NAACP. The story is about an employee of the USDA possibily having racist tendencies. Guess what, the USDA got rid of her. Something the Tea Pary to date has been unwilling to do.

BTW - If I was working for the USDA and someone I was there to help was being an asshole I wouldn't break my neck to help then either. Not because they were white but because they were an asshole.


^ this partly. But... not quite because she was not at the USDA when she was recounting this story according to her statement.
 
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nobodyknows

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Again, that was part of her story. If the story is an anecdote to her initial racial response that she moved beyond to help this man and realized there is more to life, then this is a moot point.

The incident may have been 24 years ago, but when she told the story she sent him to a "white" lawyer to get help "from his own kind".

"His own kind"??? Sounds to me like she is still racist. Ther she is at a NAACP meeting referring to race as "his own kind"?? Hey, she may have helped him but it was her job to do so and by her own admission did not help him to the full extent that she could have. Talk about a race related power trip.

And in a statement released to Fox News, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced Sherrod's resignation.

"There is zero tolerance for discrimination at USDA, and I strongly condemn any act of discrimination against any person," Vilsack said in the statement.
 
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HumblePie

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The incident may have been 24 years ago, but when she told the story she sent him to a "white" lawyer to get help "from his own kind".

"His own kind"??? Sounds to me like she is still racist. Ther she is at a NAACP meeting referring to race as "his own kind"?? Hey, she may have helped him but it was her job to do so and by her own admission to did not help him to the full extent that she could have.

Again, if this story was an anecdote and she was speaking as if in "character" to herself's first reaction back then or said in satire, then yes, this is faux outrage.

Also, her own statement was that she then worked with the guy for TWO YEARS to help him keep his house. That's not just passing the guy off to his "own kind" and washing her self of the "evil white man"

Look, I just said evil white man!! ohh noozzz I said something racist if you take my prior sentence completely out of context.

The point I'm trying to make is to blow this up at this point is just stupid without all the facts and the full story.