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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: CasioTech
yes, actually.
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yes what? Pics were fake or you know how small a packet is.
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The default packet size is next-to-nothing, but additional syntax allows the user to specify the size of a packet. It's very possible to send 5MB packets, but it's going to take forever to send it because you have to send 5MB through your internet connection. Most consumer net connections have very very slow upload speeds.

Originally posted by: shud
That's packeting and is a Denial of Service thing and is, as Carl would say "very illegal".
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It's not a Denial of Service attack. It's just someone running a continuous ping. Now, if you get, say 100,000 people to do it all at the same time, THEN the site *might* go down depending on the domain's hosting services. THAT is a DOS.
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thank you, that was very informative. i am just going to open 10000's of windows, trying to eat their bandwith.

 
Originally posted by: Nik
It's not a Denial of Service attack. It's just someone running a continuous ping. Now, if you get, say 100,000 people to do it all at the same time, THEN the site *might* go down depending on the domain's hosting services. THAT is a DOS.
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continuous ping might not be a DoS attack, but his title(before he edited it) implied that is what he was trying to accomplish.

as was this post:

Originally posted by: CasioTech
thank you, that was very informative. i am just going to open 10000's of windows, trying to eat their bandwith.
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: CasioTech
yes, actually.
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yes what? Pics were fake or you know how small a packet is.
Click to expand...

The default packet size is next-to-nothing, but additional syntax allows the user to specify the size of a packet. It's very possible to send 5MB packets, but it's going to take forever to send it because you have to send 5MB through your internet connection. Most consumer net connections have very very slow upload speeds.

Originally posted by: shud
That's packeting and is a Denial of Service thing and is, as Carl would say "very illegal".
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It's not a Denial of Service attack. It's just someone running a continuous ping. Now, if you get, say 100,000 people to do it all at the same time, THEN the site *might* go down depending on the domain's hosting services. THAT is a DOS.
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Well, yeah, I didn't realize what he was talking about. I assumed he wanted to *packet* this place and crash it. Not just ping it.
 
Originally posted by: CasioTech
what...opening windows is a crime now? STFU.
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you just said you want to eat their bandwidth, did you not?

doesn't that imply that you want to prevent others from getting to the site in question?
 
Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
Originally posted by: CasioTech
what...opening windows is a crime now? STFU.
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you just said you want to eat their bandwidth, did you not?

doesn't that imply that you want to prevent others from getting to the site in question?
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no...it means I want the webmasters, whom have unlimited hosting, to pay for more bandwith.

 
Originally posted by: shud
Well, yeah, I didn't realize what he was talking about. I assumed he wanted to *packet* this place and crash it. Not just ping it.
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His original intention was to bring down the website, yes. However, I can intend to rob a bank and attempt to do so by helping an old woman cross the street. That doesn't mean I'm guilty of robbing a bank, just being a dumbass. 😉

I've not heard a DoS attack called "packeting" something before. It's commonly referred to as ping flooding or Denial of Service.

As long as he doesn't actually *try* anything that will do any harm, then it's not technically illegal, if I understand the law correctly. If he goes around recruiting others to help in the same way so that the threat becomes possible, then he'd be in trouble. But nobody's going to do anything about a kid sitting in his mother's basement with a continuous ping to another website. 😛
 
Originally posted by: CasioTech
curious, the webmaster said he pays for 30g/b a day...what does that much cost?
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30GB per day?! :Q That's closer to what the Anandtech Forums handle per day. IIRC, Jason said it was in the high 30's if not low 40's per day. Anyway, that's a bloody FORTUNE, CasioTech.
 
Originally posted by: CasioTech

thank you, that was very informative. i am just going to open 10000's of windows, trying to eat their bandwith.
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You're a fool. You'll hit your own bandwidth ceiling well before you put a dent in theirs.
 
Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: CasioTech

thank you, that was very informative. i am just going to open 10000's of windows, trying to eat their bandwith.
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You're a fool. You'll hit your own bandwidth ceiling well before you put a dent in theirs.
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i don't have a bandwith ceiling.




and yes my hobby went away for a while.

 
Originally posted by: CasioTech
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: CasioTech
yes, actually.
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yes what? Pics were fake or you know how small a packet is.
Click to expand...

The default packet size is next-to-nothing, but additional syntax allows the user to specify the size of a packet. It's very possible to send 5MB packets, but it's going to take forever to send it because you have to send 5MB through your internet connection. Most consumer net connections have very very slow upload speeds.

Originally posted by: shud
That's packeting and is a Denial of Service thing and is, as Carl would say "very illegal".
Click to expand...

It's not a Denial of Service attack. It's just someone running a continuous ping. Now, if you get, say 100,000 people to do it all at the same time, THEN the site *might* go down depending on the domain's hosting services. THAT is a DOS.
Click to expand...




thank you, that was very informative. i am just going to open 10000's of windows, trying to eat their bandwith.
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lol - I was waiting for this. :laugh: Stop being a bonehead. 😛 You're still going to be bottle-necked by your ISP's upload cap. You, with one computer, using your entire broadband connection, will never *EVER* take down *ANY* domain by ping flooding. You'll also use so little bandwidth that the webmaster couldn't possibly notice that you're doing it unless the site gets virtually *no* traffic.

Opening multiple windows doesn't do anything. You may as well have one window open doing it once. TCP/IP doesn't work like that. You will see absolutely no increase in bandwidth usage between one command prompt and 500 command prompts all pinging the same site. Zero increase. None.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: shud
Well, yeah, I didn't realize what he was talking about. I assumed he wanted to *packet* this place and crash it. Not just ping it.
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His original intention was to bring down the website, yes. However, I can intend to rob a bank and attempt to do so by helping an old woman cross the street. That doesn't mean I'm guilty of robbing a bank, just being a dumbass. 😉

I've not heard a DoS attack called "packeting" something before. It's commonly referred to as ping flooding or Denial of Service.

As long as he doesn't actually *try* anything that will do any harm, then it's not technically illegal, if I understand the law correctly. If he goes around recruiting others to help in the same way so that the threat becomes possible, then he'd be in trouble. But nobody's going to do anything about a kid sitting in his mother's basement with a continuous ping to another website. 😛
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Well, when I was younger I was into the "warez" scene (for what it's worth). That was back when .edu connections were less used and places like NCSU had a freaking OC-12 backbone as their connection. They could send 5mb files every few seconds and referred to it as "packeting."
 
Originally posted by: shud
Well, when I was younger I was into the "warez" scene (for what it's worth). That was back when .edu connections were less used and places like NCSU had a freaking OC-12 backbone as their connection. They could send 5mb files every few seconds and referred to it as "packeting."
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That's also back when consumer ISP's offered "BLAZING NEW SPEEDS" with the market's new 28.8Kbps modems. 😛 It's the same exact concept, but it's simply now taken on an "industry standard" name, if you will.
 
Originally posted by: shud
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: shud
Well, yeah, I didn't realize what he was talking about. I assumed he wanted to *packet* this place and crash it. Not just ping it.
Click to expand...

His original intention was to bring down the website, yes. However, I can intend to rob a bank and attempt to do so by helping an old woman cross the street. That doesn't mean I'm guilty of robbing a bank, just being a dumbass. 😉

I've not heard a DoS attack called "packeting" something before. It's commonly referred to as ping flooding or Denial of Service.

As long as he doesn't actually *try* anything that will do any harm, then it's not technically illegal, if I understand the law correctly. If he goes around recruiting others to help in the same way so that the threat becomes possible, then he'd be in trouble. But nobody's going to do anything about a kid sitting in his mother's basement with a continuous ping to another website. 😛
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Well, when I was younger I was into the "warez" scene (for what it's worth). That was back when .edu connections were less used and places like NCSU had a freaking OC-12 backbone as their connection. They could send 5mb files every few seconds and referred to it as "packeting."
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I own my own townhouse, thank you very much.
 
Originally posted by: CasioTech
Originally posted by: shud
Well, when I was younger I was into the "warez" scene (for what it's worth). That was back when .edu connections were less used and places like NCSU had a freaking OC-12 backbone as their connection. They could send 5mb files every few seconds and referred to it as "packeting."
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I own my own townhouse, thank you very much.
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What? 😕

Are you on teh d0pe or something?
 
i'm just leaning, do I deserve to be banned for wanting to learn the dark side of computers? One must learn all sides, if they want to truely master the force, not just the jedi ways...whopps got carried away.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: CasioTech
Originally posted by: shud
Well, when I was younger I was into the "warez" scene (for what it's worth). That was back when .edu connections were less used and places like NCSU had a freaking OC-12 backbone as their connection. They could send 5mb files every few seconds and referred to it as "packeting."
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I own my own townhouse, thank you very much.
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What? 😕

Are you on teh d0pe or something?
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he said hacking from his mothers basement. i do it from my own townhouse.*edit.
 
Originally posted by: CasioTech
i'm just leaning, do I deserve to be banned for wanting to learn the dark side of computers? One must learn all sides, if they want to truely master the force, not just the jedi ways...whopps got carried away.
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You should pick up a new hobby like learning to build high-end PC's. Learning all the new technology is fun. It'll keep you out of trouble. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: CasioTech
i'm just leaning, do I deserve to be banned for wanting to learn the dark side of computers? One must learn all sides, if they want to truely master the force, not just the jedi ways...whopps got carried away.
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You should pick up a new hobby like learning to build high-end PC's. Learning all the new technology is fun. It'll keep you out of trouble. :thumbsup:
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been there done that. too much of a hastle, and gets expensive.
 
Originally posted by: CasioTech
he said hacking from his mothers basement. i do it from my own townhouse.*edit.
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No *I* said your mother's basement and I never once mensioned hacking. You know that kinda crap isn't allowed here, man. Don't get yourself in trouble. If you want to learn stuff like this, great. Just don't abuse it.
 
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