thank you, that was very informative. i am just going to open 10000's of windows, trying to eat their bandwith.
thank you, that was very informative. i am just going to open 10000's of windows, trying to eat their bandwith.
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Dick, that was mine!
it was a trap, i knew it, so I didn't do it.
continuous ping might not be a DoS attack, but his title(before he edited it) implied that is what he was trying to accomplish.
as was this post:
Well, yeah, I didn't realize what he was talking about. I assumed he wanted to *packet* this place and crash it. Not just ping it.
you just said you want to eat their bandwidth, did you not?
doesn't that imply that you want to prevent others from getting to the site in question?
His original intention was to bring down the website, yes. However, I can intend to rob a bank and attempt to do so by helping an old woman cross the street. That doesn't mean I'm guilty of robbing a bank, just being a dumbass.
I've not heard a DoS attack called "packeting" something before. It's commonly referred to as ping flooding or Denial of Service.
As long as he doesn't actually *try* anything that will do any harm, then it's not technically illegal, if I understand the law correctly. If he goes around recruiting others to help in the same way so that the threat becomes possible, then he'd be in trouble. But nobody's going to do anything about a kid sitting in his mother's basement with a continuous ping to another website.
30GB per day?! :Q That's closer to what the Anandtech Forums handle per day. IIRC, Jason said it was in the high 30's if not low 40's per day. Anyway, that's a bloody FORTUNE, CasioTech.
lol - I was waiting for this. :laugh: Stop being a bonehead.
You're still going to be bottle-necked by your ISP's upload cap. You, with one computer, using your entire broadband connection, will never *EVER* take down *ANY* domain by ping flooding. You'll also use so little bandwidth that the webmaster couldn't possibly notice that you're doing it unless the site gets virtually *no* traffic.Opening multiple windows doesn't do anything. You may as well have one window open doing it once. TCP/IP doesn't work like that. You will see absolutely no increase in bandwidth usage between one command prompt and 500 command prompts all pinging the same site. Zero increase. None.
Originally posted by: Nik
His original intention was to bring down the website, yes. However, I can intend to rob a bank and attempt to do so by helping an old woman cross the street. That doesn't mean I'm guilty of robbing a bank, just being a dumbass.
I've not heard a DoS attack called "packeting" something before. It's commonly referred to as ping flooding or Denial of Service.
As long as he doesn't actually *try* anything that will do any harm, then it's not technically illegal, if I understand the law correctly. If he goes around recruiting others to help in the same way so that the threat becomes possible, then he'd be in trouble. But nobody's going to do anything about a kid sitting in his mother's basement with a continuous ping to another website.
Well, when I was younger I was into the "warez" scene (for what it's worth). That was back when .edu connections were less used and places like NCSU had a freaking OC-12 backbone as their connection. They could send 5mb files every few seconds and referred to it as "packeting."
That's also back when consumer ISP's offered "BLAZING NEW SPEEDS" with the market's new 28.8Kbps modems.
It's the same exact concept, but it's simply now taken on an "industry standard" name, if you will.Originally posted by: shud
Originally posted by: Nik
His original intention was to bring down the website, yes. However, I can intend to rob a bank and attempt to do so by helping an old woman cross the street. That doesn't mean I'm guilty of robbing a bank, just being a dumbass.
I've not heard a DoS attack called "packeting" something before. It's commonly referred to as ping flooding or Denial of Service.
As long as he doesn't actually *try* anything that will do any harm, then it's not technically illegal, if I understand the law correctly. If he goes around recruiting others to help in the same way so that the threat becomes possible, then he'd be in trouble. But nobody's going to do anything about a kid sitting in his mother's basement with a continuous ping to another website.
Well, when I was younger I was into the "warez" scene (for what it's worth). That was back when .edu connections were less used and places like NCSU had a freaking OC-12 backbone as their connection. They could send 5mb files every few seconds and referred to it as "packeting."
I own my own townhouse, thank you very much.
i'm just leaning, do I deserve to be banned for wanting to learn the dark side of computers? One must learn all sides, if they want to truely master the force, not just the jedi ways...whopps got carried away.
Originally posted by: Nik
What?
Are you on teh d0pe or something?
he said hacking from his mothers basement. i do it from my own townhouse.*edit.
You should pick up a new hobby like learning to build high-end PC's. Learning all the new technology is fun. It'll keep you out of trouble. :thumbsup:
No *I* said your mother's basement and I never once mensioned hacking. You know that kinda crap isn't allowed here, man. Don't get yourself in trouble. If you want to learn stuff like this, great. Just don't abuse it.
It's expensive to read websites like Anandtech, Intel, and the like?
Read a book?
Try woodworking?
Go fishing?
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