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Nik

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Women are horrible. This has not and never will change unless it changes for the worse.
 

potato28

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Yes because as you get older, I find, you tend to care less and less about technology and stuff like that.
 

jagec

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People will never be "technologically equal regardless of generation", and I fail to see what technology has to do with it anyway.
 

JBT

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They will still be out there. I know a few old people like your grandmother, but I also know plenty of sweet little old ladies who think everything you do is amazing. Some people are just crabby people in general, and advancement in technology isn't going to change that.
 

Dumac

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Originally posted by: jagec
People will never be "technologically equal regardless of generation", and I fail to see what technology has to do with it anyway.

Many elderly people, at least where I live, seem to disregard computers and new electronic devices as toys for kids. I have met a lot of seniors who think that computers are just for kids, and having a career in computer technology isn't actually a career...
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: jagec
People will never be "technologically equal regardless of generation", and I fail to see what technology has to do with it anyway.

Basically saying that like the bestseller book states, "The World is Flat", and civilizations are now on one giant playing field. This will require the use of technology to be a skill similar to cooking or driving, thus all people will share an understanding and appreciation for efficient, electronic based activites in day to day life.
 

DaveSimmons

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In 40 years youths will be sneering at you for your ineptitude at grokking the holoweb.

They'll consider you retarded and handicapped because of your lack of extended memory cache and network implants. And barely human since you'll lack genetic enhancement.

They'll laugh at your decades out of fashion clothes and taste in music.

Time will wipe away your sense of superiority, so treat grandma how you'd like to be treated when your turn comes and you become a cranky geezer because of it.
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
In 40 years youths will be sneering at you for your ineptitude at grokking the holoweb.

They'll consider you retarded and handicapped because of your lack of extended memory cache and network implants. And barely human since you'll lack genetic enhancement.

They'll laugh at your decades out of fashion clothes and taste in music.

Time will wipe away your sense of superiority, so treat grandma how you'd like to be treated when your turn comes and you become a cranky geezer because of it.

But that is just my point, I'm perfectly nice to her and go out of my way to be polite, offer help, ask her how she is doing etc...
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: jagec
People will never be "technologically equal regardless of generation", and I fail to see what technology has to do with it anyway.

Basically saying that like the bestseller book states, "The World is Flat", and civilizations are now on one giant playing field. This will require the use of technology to be a skill similar to cooking or driving, thus all people will share an understanding and appreciation for efficient, electronic based activites in day to day life.

Bestseller? If all the BS that gets into print was converted to its literal form, you could fill the oceans with it:)

"Technology" is a pretty broad term. I'm sure there was a generation somewhere that distained the use of the automobile by those "young 'uns". Sure enough, today it's ubiquitous. I don't doubt that the computer will follow, but then a new gadget, gizmo, or widget will appear which will have massive appeal with the youth,and be virtually imcomprehensible with the older generation. The world is less flat today than it was ten years ago, and will be even less flat tomorrow.
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Brackis
But that is just my point, I'm perfectly nice to her and go out of my way to be polite, offer help, ask her how she is doing etc...
Good, and keep it up, because my point is that you are wrong to think the generation gaps will ever disappear. You think now you'll never become a cranky out-of-touch geezer but odds are you will.
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: Brackis
But that is just my point, I'm perfectly nice to her and go out of my way to be polite, offer help, ask her how she is doing etc...
Good, and keep it up, because my point is that you are wrong to think the generation gaps will ever disappear. You think now you'll never become a cranky out-of-touch geezer but odds are you will.

I never said I would or wouldn't, I posed a question as to whether technological advances such as personal computers would bridge the gap, or if in my personal scenario technology is just an avenue for someone who dislikes me to get upset.
 

jadinolf

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Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: jagec
People will never be "technologically equal regardless of generation", and I fail to see what technology has to do with it anyway.

Many elderly people, at least where I live, seem to disregard computers and new electronic devices as toys for kids. I have met a lot of seniors who think that computers are just for kids, and having a career in computer technology isn't actually a career...

That's right. I'm a senior and you'll never see me monkeying around with that high tech crap. I can do anything you can do with a computer with my trusty pencil. :laugh:
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: jadinolf
Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: jagec
People will never be "technologically equal regardless of generation", and I fail to see what technology has to do with it anyway.

Many elderly people, at least where I live, seem to disregard computers and new electronic devices as toys for kids. I have met a lot of seniors who think that computers are just for kids, and having a career in computer technology isn't actually a career...

That's right. I'm a senior and you'll never see me monkeying around with that high tech crap. I can do anything you can do with a computer with my trusty pencil. :laugh:

but do you have any lead left in it ?

rotflmao ! sorry, couldn't help myself :D

OP, sounds to me like maybe your grandmother cares about you,your health and your future, if she didn't care she wouldn't say anything try to view her comments in that light.
 

0roo0roo

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i dont think they'll be as isolated and out of touch. the internet lets people overcome physical decrepitude and stuff. u can imagine some future geezers being hated for having all the time in the world to level up their characters in online games and such lol:)
 

I Saw OJ

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My grandmother is the sweetest old lady in the world. Even though her and my grandfather are completely inept in regards to technology they understand how important it is to the future. To be perfectly honest there is no reason for them to need to learn how to surf the web, or send email, they will never ever need to use it.
 

KMurphy

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:music:I love technology...
but not as much as you, you see...
but I still love technology...
always and forever...:music:
 

purepolly

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IMO, from seeing a lot of sick folks during the workday, I'll take the old and cranky patients over the young, self absorbed patients anyday. The older folks tend to be more appreciative of any care you give them while the younger ones are generally just PITA's (hopefully they will grow out of that).
 

phantom309

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Originally posted by: jadinolf
Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: jagec
People will never be "technologically equal regardless of generation", and I fail to see what technology has to do with it anyway.

Many elderly people, at least where I live, seem to disregard computers and new electronic devices as toys for kids. I have met a lot of seniors who think that computers are just for kids, and having a career in computer technology isn't actually a career...

That's right. I'm a senior and you'll never see me monkeying around with that high tech crap. I can do anything you can do with a computer with my trusty pencil. :laugh:
We have an older white male at work who has this same attitude. He did perfectly well with typewriters and carbon paper and he doesn't see why he should have to learn all this new stuff, just to keep doing the same job he's done since the 80s.

It's understandable in a way. It takes 10 minutes to learn to use a typewriter, then you're done. You use it when you need it and you forget about it when you don't. You don't have to spend weeks learning to use a completely different one every few years. You spend that time learning how to do your own job better, instead of endlessly re-learning how to use the tools.

Truth is, much as I love computers, technology and IT, a lot the time it just gets in the way.
 

badmouse

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There are good, generous kind people, and angry crabby people, of every age - just read a few posts here at ATOT.

Regarding technology - which is a separate issue - there are a lot of techsavvy old people. Just go to an ebay convention. There are also a lot of tech-clueless kids.

Your grandfather sounds interesting. To get along better with your grandmother, start asking her questions about her life, such as "what did you do while gramps was off at war" and "when you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up?" She had a life too, you know, and you don't even remotely appreciate it.

Chances are she'll still be a bitchy old lady, but you tried.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: potato28
Yes because as you get older, I find, you tend to care less and less about technology and stuff like that.

QFT!

Trust me, OP. They will have some crazy technology like neuronets, or typing holographically by the time you are old and you will be reminiscing about the good old days of keyboards and ATOT (not this holonet that everyone keeps using nowadays). ;)
 

GasX

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The aging process affects different people in different ways. For a lot of people, they become old cranks. It's just inevitable and unfortunate that some people get them as grandparents...
 

phantom309

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Originally posted by: badmouse
There are good, generous kind people, and angry crabby people, of every age - just read a few posts here at ATOT.

Regarding technology - which is a separate issue - there are a lot of techsavvy old people. Just go to an ebay convention. There are also a lot of tech-clueless kids.

Your grandfather sounds interesting. To get along better with your grandmother, start asking her questions about her life, such as "what did you do while gramps was off at war" and "when you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up?" She had a life too, you know, and you don't even remotely appreciate it.

Chances are she'll still be a bitchy old lady, but you tried.
Yes.

OP, you made the comment that your grandmother "never had to work". If there's anything the last 30 years should have taught us, it's that raising children is an incredibly important and difficult job. It's obvious that you have tremendous respect for your grandfather - and that's great (though it was much, much easier for a white man to be a sole breadwinner in his time than ours) - but you dismiss your grandmother's accomplishments and life as "busywork". And you expect her to respect you.

I think the above poster has some good advice. Ask her questions about her own life. Ask her what she thinks about things and show some respect for her opinions. Let her know she's important - because she is. When you have children of your own you will understand that.

If that doesn't work, show respect anyway and suck it up. They're paying your way through college. They'll be gone one day, and they're giving you something you'll benefit from for the rest of your life.
 

zephyrprime

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I think that if you are an old crank, it is an indication that you are unhappy with your own life and not taking part in enough activities.

I could see myself being a critical perfectionist but what keeps me from doing so is that I stagger under the weight of all the stuff I try to do and make so many mistakes. If someone led a easy life like your grandmother and could be a critic all the time without ever being a performer, I think it could give them unrealistic expectations of other people.

Also, I don't think this has anything to do with technology. I'm sure your grandmother's grandmother was bitching at her for driving (which is so unlady like) and listening to that terrible jazz music.