EDIT: Renewed for a second season. "The Walking Dead"

[Nebor]

Is this on tonight?

 

[Wordplay]

Decent episode tonight but predictable.

 

[datalink7]

I like the show but they need some new writers because the current ones are making the people seem stupid.
The last episode has a scene where zombies are pounding on the doors of a department store. Do they try to block the front doors with all the counters, shelves and everything else ? nope.

I just can't stand stupidity like this. You are in a city with hundreds of buildings, sky scrapers and more. All that could be made into fortresses, and you pick a department store with glass windows to be your safe house in the city and then you decide to inhabit the ground floor ? The kid is driving around zombies with the windows rolled down ? In the pilot they go to the jail to get weapons , the jail has hot water, good defenses and supplies, yet they go back to a wood frame house surrounded by zombies to be safe ? Hope the zombies eat them all.

I agree. I keep watching the show because I love Zombie movies/themes but some of it is almost too much. I thought the same thing with the department store. They were just standing there when they could have piled everything in the store in front of the doorway.

And driving the car with the alarm all the way back to camp? Retarded. Nobody would have done that. They would have jumped out and gotten in the truck on the way back.

There were some other things too that I remember annoyed me at the time.

 

[Lizardman]

As far as the car alarm going off while Glen was back at base camp I couldn't agree more. That was stupid move. At least Dale yelled at him for being a moron.

 

[nageov3t]

I agree. I keep watching the show because I love Zombie movies/themes but some of it is almost too much. I thought the same thing with the department store. They were just standing there when they could have piled everything in the store in front of the doorway.

And driving the car with the alarm all the way back to camp? Retarded. Nobody would have done that. They would have jumped out and gotten in the truck on the way back.

There were some other things too that I remember annoyed me at the time.

what's more realistic -- dumb people or people doing the correct thing all the time?

 

[Wordplay]

what's more realistic -- dumb people or people doing the correct thing all the time?

You would think though that the people that managed to survive up to this point had a wee bit more smarts than the average Joe.

 

[nageov3t]

You would think though that the people that managed to survive up to this point had a wee bit more smarts than the average Joe.

mostly just luck 😉

 

[datalink7]

what's more realistic -- dumb people or people doing the correct thing all the time?

It's not even doing the correct thing "all the time." The average joe would have known better than to drive a car with the alarm going off all the way back to base camp. That's just plain retarded.

Piling things in front of the door would be instinctual for everyone.

This isn't about making mistakes. This is just wanted the show to be realistic by making people act like they would, instead of retards.

 

[zinfamous]

even after the car alarm debacle, then discovering the zombie munching on the deer a few yards from camp--wtf did douchebag HONK THE HORN to get policeman to get into the van? (no one reacted to it. lol)

I kinda hope all of these people die. 🙂

 

[lozina]

Episode 3 was pretty good. Is it just more or was it shorter than usual? It seemed to be over so quick! So little progressed in the story, so little happened. Weird...

I dont really see those mistakes an unrealistic - for one what could they pile up in front of the doors? typically those department sore display cases are bolted down are just too damn heavy to move. You can pile up some clothes and clothes racks but whats that gonna do for you? that's not gonna stop the zombies. As for the car alarm maybe would have been better if when the kid passed the truck they flagged him down right there to pull over/meet up during which time the cop or someone dismantles the alarm before the continue on. Though I'm not sure how you dismantle a car alarm, I imagine it wouldn't be so easy that anybody can do it and still drive the car? I guess I must be retarded though since I dont know :sneaky:

But yeah I definitely see the camp being overrun one night where couple people die and everyone else has to make a run for it. It's just obviously leading to that.

 

[nageov3t]

spoilers:



if I had to guess, I'd assume that the camp gets overrun in the final episode of the season, with the second season either spent entirely on the road or divided between running/at the prison. bad things pretty much always seem to happen when they stay too long in one place.



/spoilers

 

[NuclearNed]

Like everyone else, I'm enjoying this show, but some of it seems kind of dumb.

The handcuffed guy... I can understand how the hacksaw wouldn't cut through the handcuffs, but hacksaws are made to cut through bolts just like the ductwork bolt he was handcuffed to. So he goes straight for the wrist without even trying to cut the bolt???? Really?

And once he cut himself free, exactly how was it that he got off the roof of the skyscraper? The door to the stairwell was chained shut.

 

[lozina]

Like everyone else, I'm enjoying this show, but some of it seems kind of dumb.

The handcuffed guy... I can understand how the hacksaw wouldn't cut through the handcuffs, but hacksaws are made to cut through bolts just like the ductwork bolt he was handcuffed to. So he goes straight for the wrist without even trying to cut the bolt???? Really?

And once he cut himself free, exactly how was it that he got off the roof of the skyscraper? The door to the stairwell was chained shut.

OMG yes I forgot about that! If anything was retarded in last night's episode THIS was definitely it! The bolt or the metal brace would absolutely be vulnerable to the hack saw.

But as for getting off the roof I imagine the building probably had a ladder or possible jumped to another nearby roof (in the movies humans jump farther)

 

[PingSpike]

I'm not saying the writing is perfect in this, but its certainly better than that of the last of George Romero's last few movies and most zombie movies I've seen. I actually don't agree with your assessment that what they were doing didn't make sense...and there's actually some good reasons for most of what happened. Personally, I thought they'd actually done a good job with the writing.

!SOME SPOILERS WITHIN FOR THOSE THAT HAVEN'T WATCHED!

I like the show but they need some new writers because the current ones are making the people seem stupid.
The last episode has a scene where zombies are pounding on the doors of a department store. Do they try to block the front doors with all the counters, shelves and everything else ? nope.

Every department store I've ever been in, the counters were bolted to the floor. I suppose they could have piled some clothes racks in front of the door, but that would have only sort of slowed them down once they broke through. I honestly didn't see anything that would have made a good quick barricade in that room.

I just can't stand stupidity like this. You are in a city with hundreds of buildings, sky scrapers and more. All that could be made into fortresses, and you pick a department store with glass windows to be your safe house in the city and then you decide to inhabit the ground floor ?

I don't think it was a safe house really. They'd gone into the city to forage, not live. They'd just setup a temporary defense downstairs while they looked for supplies. A department store is one logical place to forage for supplies. Honestly, I'm not sure I've ever seen a sky scraper that didn't have glass doors on the main floor.

The kid is driving around zombies with the windows rolled down ?

The window wasn't rolled down, it was smashed out.

In the pilot they go to the jail to get weapons , the jail has hot water, good defenses and supplies, yet they go back to a wood frame house surrounded by zombies to be safe ? Hope the zombies eat them all.

The jail would be a good place to hold up, but it hasn't been hardened like the house. It would take time to nail any openings shut, probably at least a few days. Logically, you'd hole up in the house you'd hardened while you spent a few days prepping the jail before moving into it IMO. That said, both the father and son and the cop expressed a desire to move on shortly meaning it would have been a waste of time. The cop wanted to find his wife ASAP and the I believe the father said he wasn't quite ready to move on but planned to go to the city to whatever safe government run location was supposedly there (that doesn't actually exist).

 

[Jassi]

I'm on book 9 of the comic and a lot of the things added to the show are not in the book. The books are absolutely brilliant. By moving away from them, they are only making the storyline worse.

Edit - The guy cuffed to the roof ... hell the whole story in Atlanta is new. In the book, Glenn finds Rick and then takes him back to the camp. Even some of the characters are new.

Like everyone else, I'm enjoying this show, but some of it seems kind of dumb.

The handcuffed guy... I can understand how the hacksaw wouldn't cut through the handcuffs, but hacksaws are made to cut through bolts just like the ductwork bolt he was handcuffed to. So he goes straight for the wrist without even trying to cut the bolt???? Really?

And once he cut himself free, exactly how was it that he got off the roof of the skyscraper? The door to the stairwell was chained shut.

 

[PingSpike]

And now the speculation:

Its not clear how long the cop was in the hospital. My original theory is they were doing a final quick evac and some nurse loaded him up with IV bags as a final "Good luck buddy" before leaving his ass there. No idea how long you can make IV for fluids last.

But then I recalled the extremely crewed up corpse of a woman he saw through the glass doors. I'm thinking that was a particularly determined nurse who had until recently been caring for him in the remnants of the hospital. Either way, it seems like it has to be at least a month because even that seems like a short time for things to have gone completely to hell AND dipped off from the crazy traffic jam chaos.

I have no idea what happened to Mirl or whatever cutting his hand off. If he got a hold of the hacksaw, it seems like he would have either been able to cut through the handcuffs or the the metal they were attached too. I don't really think standard police issue handcuffs are particularly hard to cut through either?

My current working theory is he never got a hold of the hacksaw. He cut his hand off with a boot knife. Or chewed it off. But boy...I don't think I would have done either of those things. I would have died of dehydration while trying to get that hacksaw. Or the zombies ate him and they did a really bad job of conveying it. (Last one seems pretty unlikely)

And none of this explains why the door was still chained and he wasn't there. There must have been another way down. (or up!)

 

[nageov3t]

I'm assuming it'll be shown in a flashback or something.

 

[Garou24]

If I remember correctly, in the show where they handcuffed Mirl, He asked the black guy to give him the hacksaw so he could at least cut the handcuffs off. The guy mentioned that the hacksaw was pretty dull and wouldn't cut much. Least thats what me and my GF remembered when we saw he cut his hand off instead.

 

[zinfamous]

Like everyone else, I'm enjoying this show, but some of it seems kind of dumb.

The handcuffed guy... I can understand how the hacksaw wouldn't cut through the handcuffs, but hacksaws are made to cut through bolts just like the ductwork bolt he was handcuffed to. So he goes straight for the wrist without even trying to cut the bolt???? Really?

And once he cut himself free, exactly how was it that he got off the roof of the skyscraper? The door to the stairwell was chained shut.

yup. I assumed he was going to cut through the pipe. the hand thing...retarted.

I was thinking that either:

he jumped down and offed himself
he jumped to another nearby roof?

whatever happens...he will likely return as a one-handed zombie.

 

[nageov3t]

Spoiler

maybe they're trying to foreshadow what happens to Rick's hand

😱 😀

 

[oddyager]

And now the speculation:

Its not clear how long the cop was in the hospital. My original theory is they were doing a final quick evac and some nurse loaded him up with IV bags as a final "Good luck buddy" before leaving his ass there. No idea how long you can make IV for fluids last.

But then I recalled the extremely crewed up corpse of a woman he saw through the glass doors. I'm thinking that was a particularly determined nurse who had until recently been caring for him in the remnants of the hospital. Either way, it seems like it has to be at least a month because even that seems like a short time for things to have gone completely to hell AND dipped off from the crazy traffic jam chaos.

I have no idea what happened to Mirl or whatever cutting his hand off. If he got a hold of the hacksaw, it seems like he would have either been able to cut through the handcuffs or the the metal they were attached too. I don't really think standard police issue handcuffs are particularly hard to cut through either?

My current working theory is he never got a hold of the hacksaw. He cut his hand off with a boot knife. Or chewed it off. But boy...I don't think I would have done either of those things. I would have died of dehydration while trying to get that hacksaw. Or the zombies ate him and they did a really bad job of conveying it. (Last one seems pretty unlikely)

And none of this explains why the door was still chained and he wasn't there. There must have been another way down. (or up!)

No, he was able to saw off his own hand. The last shot panned from the dropped hacksaw which was fairly close to his severed hand. I still question though why he chose to do it that way and not just simply saw off the bolt he was cuffed on. Maybe the writers thought this was more "dramatic".

 

[oddyager]

yup. I assumed he was going to cut through the pipe. the hand thing...retarted.

I was thinking that either:

he jumped down and offed himself
he jumped to another nearby roof?

whatever happens...he will likely return as a one-handed zombie.

I'm going to say the latter because of his half crazy rant about needing to live and wanting revenge. He's going to come back with a one-handed vengeance. Ash-style.

 

[zinfamous]

No, he was able to saw off his own hand. The last shot panned from the dropped hacksaw which was fairly close to his severed hand. I still question though why he chose to do it that way and not just simply saw off the bolt he was cuffed on. Maybe the writers thought this was more "dramatic".

well...yeah. 😛

One of the things that troubled me--where were all the zombies trying to break onto the roof? It seems to me that zombies just don't give up and move on. there were maybe 4 or 5 zombies pushing through that door when the episode opened.

the chain was still in place at the end when the other guys arrived, but no zombies. so, they obviously didn't get through, right?

even if the racist dude escaped, I would think that the zombies would still keep trying to get through that door, as he is the only meat anywhere. It doesn't seem that these zombies have the capacity to strategy, and try to find another route in. there was, apparently, only one zombie in the building when the team arrived.

 

[nageov3t]

well...yeah. 😛

One of the things that troubled me--where were all the zombies trying to break onto the roof? It seems to me that zombies just don't give up and move on. there were maybe 4 or 5 zombies pushing through that door when the episode opened.

the chain was still in place at the end when the other guys arrived, but no zombies. so, they obviously didn't get through, right?

even if the racist dude escaped, I would think that the zombies would still keep trying to get through that door, as he is the only meat anywhere. It doesn't seem that these zombies have the capacity to strategy, and try to find another route in. there was, apparently, only one zombie in the building when the team arrived.

definitely legit concerns. I'm hoping/assuming it'll be detailed via a flashback or something.

 

[oddyager]

well...yeah. 😛

One of the things that troubled me--where were all the zombies trying to break onto the roof? It seems to me that zombies just don't give up and move on. there were maybe 4 or 5 zombies pushing through that door when the episode opened.

the chain was still in place at the end when the other guys arrived, but no zombies. so, they obviously didn't get through, right?

even if the racist dude escaped, I would think that the zombies would still keep trying to get through that door, as he is the only meat anywhere. It doesn't seem that these zombies have the capacity to strategy, and try to find another route in. there was, apparently, only one zombie in the building when the team arrived.

It's possible the redneck sawed himself off then jumped to another roof. The zombies give up after not being able to see or smell him after awhile (because they still cant get through) so they wander back down.