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[daweasel]

This was posted in our secret team forum on Feb 16


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Posted: 16 Feb 2002 09:22 pm Post subject: Dumping

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I do wish to go on record with the following:

As someone who once ran a couple of DC projects, I must speak out against the practice of mass dumping. It is even worse in a type of project like this, where, matched results are required for completion.

I hate the thought that my machines might possibly be wasting their CPU cycles crunching DPs that mean nothing, because someone is caching the match for a DP already submitted. We have gotten to the point of this project where the statistical probability of this is growing rapidly.

You can hold for a dump if you want, but if we find a match the day after one of us takes a big dump I will be most displeased. It takes a fair amount of my energy to maintain my fleet, and I am not in a position to waste my time, I have a wife/kids/hobbies that would rather have that time.

Steve

PS: I understand the concept of off-line machines, and necessity dumps. I have several 'secure' machines in my network that are sneaker-netted, so I occasionally have 'mini' dumps myself.. but never anything over 10K a day.
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I would like to public ask everyone on all teams including ours to keep the stored DPs to under two weeks.

 

[gogeeta13]

my biggest dump of 9k was big because I dumped several computers I haven't touched in weeks/months. I always keep small reserves, but I do understand the problem here.

thanks weasel

 

[ProviaFan]

I understand your point, and l will try, as I have been, to keep my dumps to at least, or lower than, a two week interval.

 

[daweasel]

I understand if there is a computer that you absolutely can't get to. ie family computer in different state with no internet access - ok I understand.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Bump. I usually dump every 2-3 days. So it shouldnt be a huge problem.

 

[MereMortal]

We already follow that line of reasoning. We have had only one instance of a member having a daily total > 10k in the last three months, and that was only 11.5k. We don't often even have anyone near 10k, and when we do, it is a high volume producer dumping results less than two weeks old.

I don't see any reason why our uploading pattern would change, and I hope that it doesn't.

 

[daweasel]

That post was from steve ( otlg22) so his 10k is like 5 days of output.

Lets just agree that 2 weeks is the most anyone should hold

 

[RC]

I usually dump once a year or so but I'm speshul

 

[nagger]

Thanks for the heads up,

I usually dump every day (can't call 180 ~ 450 a dump but hey I'm still working on some more assimilations )...

You could post the same thread on the DPC forum as well because they seem to be sandbagging a lot (not that it's illegal, but it always takes away my good mood everytime I see their 100K+ dumps)...

 

[Polo]

The DPC don't agree...
They don't care losing computing power... IMO they are messing this sort of project...:disgust:

One of their reply is


<< this is for all ya Weazles out there
the final point can be found at any point. It could be in the first 5 points, or the last 1. It can happen at ANY moment. I don't know why you make a fuss of it.

our MF's normally don't last longer then 2-3 weeks. And we're not all saving up for a dump (see daystats ). So those few extra days, wtf gives a s**t

as some of my teammates have said (in dutch): Why do we do DC? For stats. What's more fun than having high stats. Therefor we do MegaFlushes. No MegaFlushes, means less fun, which leads to less members. Less members means waiting even longer for the project to be ended.

DPC will NOT stop MegaFlushing!!

and that's the bottom line, cuz [DPC] says so

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Taken from Team Weazy forum

 

[ProviaFan]

<< Lets just agree that 2 weeks is the most anyone should hold >>


I'll agree to that, if I can help it. However, I am seeing the possibilty of an assimilation in the near future, in which, if ECCp-109 does not provide dial up detection, it will be flushed only once a month or so. I'm very sorry if it displeases you, but I'm going to assimilate that one anyway, if I am able to get permission from the owner.

 

[daweasel]

thats not what I'm talking about.

I'm referring to the systematic and planned holding back of points. One stray machine is different that 25% of your teams output.