Ebay's #1 Knucklehead-----UDT89 **Update**

[UDT89]

I should never sell off AT.........

 

[Mrvile]

Well, I think you're still screwed for sending it to a different address...

 

[etalns]

I'd pursue it on the principal.

 

[purbeast0]

he probably had a hacked ebay account, and a hacked paypal account. i don't think you can do much but take the loss, that sucks.

 

[EyeMWing]

Stick to AT FS/T. We have... "Ways" of making people talk.

Oh, and if you shipped USPS, you may want to call the postal inspector. Federal crime and all.

 

[jdini76]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
he probably had a hacked ebay account, and a hacked paypal account...

If that were the case, then why dispute the charges?

 

[UDT89]

but what do i do? go to the address i sent it to? just call the police?

he has a phone number that says "hi you reached XXXXX, leave your name number etc......" its a cell phone, so the police should be able to figure out who owns it no?

 

[BigJ]

If all these threads lately haven't convinced people not to use Paypal, then I don't know what will.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: UDT89
but what do i do? go to the address i sent it to? just call the police?

he has a phone number that says "hi you reached XXXXX, leave your name number etc......" its a cell phone, so the police should be able to figure out who owns it no?

*POSTAL INSPECTOR* The police have better things to do and would essentially slap him on the wrist. The feds aren't as happy-fun-time.

 

[UDT89]

Originally posted by: jdini76

Originally posted by: purbeast0
he probably had a hacked ebay account, and a hacked paypal account...

If that were the case, then why dispute the charges?

EXACTLY!!!!!!

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Qosis
I'd pursue it on the principal.

 

[dabuddha]

That's why you don't ship to different addresses. I'll refuse to ship the item to the person and relist the item has a non paying bidder if they don't follow the rules.

 

[UDT89]

i know i learned a lesson, suucks i lost out but now i know that they dont want to do things by the book then too bad you cant buy it.

but i feel this guy is a newb at scamming and there is just too much that doesnt make sense, like the dispute. plus i feel there is a paper trail a mile long that should be looked at by someone

 

[BooGiMaN]

is it a locked or unlocked phone..if its still locked report it stolen to verizon at least he cant use it on the verizon network

if all else fails take a trip down to that address


have you been callign from the same number...he probably just sends you to cvoicemail when he sees your phone number on caller id...try callign from different phone number

 

[UDT89]

called from 4 different numbers....how would i get the ID number of the phone? it was an old vx4500 i gave my mom and then she got a new phone and gave it back to me.

 

[tami]

why don't you physically visit the address that it was shipped to? you don't seem to be THAT far away.

 

[UDT89]

So i made a call to a friend that works in the post office and got a call back from a friend of mine that is a postal inspector. I used to work with him at Customs and now hes a postal agent.

So i explain everything, the phone number, the two addresses, confirmation #, etc. So he said he will open a case and get right on it. That was thursday.

Today i get a message on my cell phone from the buyer and that he is sending a money order to my house and that he's not scamming me.

Either way, i should be getting my money this week.

Thanks for the help guys.

 

[So]

Why are you quoting a statistic from a half decade ago?

 

[UDT89]

Originally posted by: So
Why are you quoting a statistic from a half decade ago?

it was the only one i found. why do you care? why cant you say 5 years?

 

[Carazariah]

Originally posted by: UDT89
well I just learned another lesson at the expense of selling my old verizon phone through ebay. I sold an item to a member with good feedback, 47 all positive and good paypal rating too.

He asked that I send to his work address in Manhattan instead of Brooklyn his verified address. The item gets there no problem, then a paypal dispute pops up. I provide tracking info and they reverse the payment b/c the zip code of the delivery confirmation isn't the same as the paypal verified address.

what got me good was he gave me a phone number to call him. I left a message, it went to voice mail, and he called back. (this is before I shipped the item) we talked for 5 minutes or so because I wasn't able to send the item till I got back from vacation. Now when I try to call the number it just goes right to voicemail all times of the day. I left 2 messages so far and no calls back and no payment.

I know I sent to an unverified address so im at fault, I accept that. I want to give this guy kudos for going the extra mile to setup a fake telephone number and actually call me back and speak to me. really fooled me.

What kills me is now im out the phone, and I had to give back $118 to paypal. Now if I decide to pursue this, which im almost ready not to deal with, should I call the police in Manhattan where it was delivered or where his verified address is on paypal? Part of me thinks I didn't get scammed by some elite internet group, I feel like its some little kid getting away with it on a technicality. If he has a verified paypal address he must exist, unless he stole both ebay and paypal accounts.

Any opinions on how I should proceed?

I should never sell off AT.........

That's a real bummer. . .
Of course hind site is twenty twenty, but Paypal lets people list multiple addresses and as long as the address is listed in the buyer transaction details upon reciept of payment then they will cover you. So if someone ever asks you to do that ask them to add the address to their Paypal account, before they pay you. If they pay first refuse to ship to anything but a confirmed or the address listed upon the transaction detail. Basically anyone that uses (Ship it to my work address) doesn't have an exscuse not to add that address to Paypal.
Good luck on getting some recourse. . .

C

QFT from Paypal FAQ's
Confirmed Addresses

What is a Confirmed Address?
A buyer's Confirmed Address is checked against the credit card billing address maintained by his or her credit card company.

How is address confirmation useful?
Address confirmation is useful because it provides a way for a seller to verify a buyer's identity. Shipment to a confirmed address, however, is not a requirement for coverage under the Seller Protection Policy since not all PayPal users are able to confirm their addresses. If a transaction is eligible for coverage under the Seller Protection Policy, a seller must ship to the address found on the Transaction Details page (regardless of whether that address is confirmed or not). For transactions that are ineligible for coverage under the Seller Protection Policy, we recommend that a seller ships to a buyer's Confirmed Address.

What is an Unconfirmed Address?
An Unconfirmed Address is any address which is not associated with a credit card or which has not been verified by PayPal. Most non-U.S. addresses cannot be confirmed at this time because many international credit card platforms do not support methods to do so.

 

[LS20]

cellular phowned

 

[tami]

you should edit the original post with your update as well as making a new post about it.

 

[UDT89]

i updated the original post.

now just waiting for the money order.

 

[spanky]

so did ur friend the postal inspector call him up and "rough him up"?

 

[iwearnosox]

"in 1999 ebay reported 27 fraud sales per 1000000 auctions."

eBay is well aware less than 1% of people who experience fraud actually report it.