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beat mania

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Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: mrCide
DC is USPS tracking, it's free if you print it online (IIRC), I provide that for items I sell as a good will gesture though most people know it's fairly useless.

Ignore his moaning, some people are just anal.

Paypal has a label printing function and I looked at it. It says not to exceed 13 oz. and the item is 15.4 oz, so I can't use that. I'm bringing the package to the PS in a few minutes with my own label. If insurance is indeed a nickle per $100, I'll buy $150 ( the selling price was $155 ), so won't worry about the extra 15 cents. It's insurance for me.

That's because if you're over 13 oz you have to go up to priority mail or parcel mail.
 

arkcom

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Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: mrCide
DC is USPS tracking, it's free if you print it online (IIRC), I provide that for items I sell as a good will gesture though most people know it's fairly useless.

Ignore his moaning, some people are just anal.

Paypal has a label printing function and I looked at it. It says not to exceed 13 oz. and the item is 15.4 oz, so I can't use that. I'm bringing the package to the PS in a few minutes with my own label. If insurance is indeed a nickle per $100, I'll buy $150 ( the selling price was $155 ), so won't worry about the extra 15 cents. It's insurance for me.

First class mail tops out at 13 oz. You wont be shipping it first class mail...
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
DC's have always been good enough for me as a sender and receiver.

It shows that the item was sent and when and that is was delivered, when and where. It gets a lot closer than just the zip code (as someone claimed above).

That being said, I do not deal with shipping anymore when I can avoid it.

CraigsList and meeting at a public place FTW.

MotionMan

From experience, the DC does not mean that the item was given to the recipient. Yes, it should; but the PO will not guarantee this. Experience shows that the DC is updated by the PO or delivery person.

I have had DC boxes that the PO stated were delivered - however, they were unable to fit into the apartment mail box. The box was scanned as delivered and taken back to the PO.

The quality of use is up to the USPS employees. I suspect that once scanned; the action can not be reversed

 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: MotionMan
DC's have always been good enough for me as a sender and receiver.

It shows that the item was sent and when and that is was delivered, when and where. It gets a lot closer than just the zip code (as someone claimed above).

That being said, I do not deal with shipping anymore when I can avoid it.

CraigsList and meeting at a public place FTW.

MotionMan

From experience, the DC does not mean that the item was given to the recipient. Yes, it should; but the PO will not guarantee this. Experience shows that the DC is updated by the PO or delivery person.

I have had DC boxes that the PO stated were delivered - however, they were unable to fit into the apartment mail box. The box was scanned as delivered and taken back to the PO.

The quality of use is up to the USPS employees. I suspect that once scanned; the action can not be reversed

Tracking is also not perfect. DC is more than sufficient.

MotionMan
 

LittleNemoNES

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If he gets upset he can bitch to Paypal and you will be forced to pay back the money.

So unfairly favorable to buyers because it is convenient for their business model


It Happened to me
Guy lied to to get his money back. Damn CS
 

dsity

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Originally posted by: gersson
If he gets upset he can bitch to Paypal and you will be forced to pay back the money.

So unfairly favorable to buyers because it is convenient for their business model


It Happened to me
Guy lied to to get his money back. Damn CS

yep. usps DC is useless sometimes they don't even scan the item..

sold an item through ebay. sent via priority with DC. The item was scanned in, but never scanned when it was delivered. I was lucky enough to have an honest ebayer say he did indeed recieved the item. otherwise he could have claimed as never recieved through paypal and gotten his money back

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: MotionMan
DC's have always been good enough for me as a sender and receiver.

It shows that the item was sent and when and that is was delivered, when and where. It gets a lot closer than just the zip code (as someone claimed above).

That being said, I do not deal with shipping anymore when I can avoid it.

CraigsList and meeting at a public place FTW.

MotionMan

From experience, the DC does not mean that the item was given to the recipient. Yes, it should; but the PO will not guarantee this. Experience shows that the DC is updated by the PO or delivery person.

I have had DC boxes that the PO stated were delivered - however, they were unable to fit into the apartment mail box. The box was scanned as delivered and taken back to the PO.

The quality of use is up to the USPS employees. I suspect that once scanned; the action can not be reversed

Tracking is also not perfect. DC is more than sufficient.

MotionMan

Until a claim is filed. Without proof of delivery, the shipper is faulted unless there is a signature waiver. DC is not proof, it is a feel good that the USPS MAY be doing their job.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Until a claim is filed. Without proof of delivery, the shipper is faulted unless there is a signature waiver. DC is not proof, it is a feel good that the USPS MAY be doing their job.

DC is sufficient for paypal claims < 250
 

LS21

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i wouldnt give him shit. i tell him if he wants confirmation he pays for it. otherwise fuck off and die
 

Adam8281

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I think people are missing the main point here, which is that when the buyer said "send me the tracking #," he probably meant the delivery confirmation #. I often use the two terms interchangeably when buying/selling, and I've noticed others often do as well. Instead of going into the minutiae of the difference between a "tracking" and "delivery confirmation" number, I think this can be settled by the statement, "The buyer probably means a delivery confirmation number - so send him that."
 
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Originally posted by: Adam8281
I think people are missing the main point here, which is that when the buyer said "send me the tracking #," he probably meant the delivery confirmation #. I often use the two terms interchangeably when buying/selling, and I've noticed others often do as well. Instead of going into the minutiae of the difference between a "tracking" and "delivery confirmation" number, I think this can be settled by the statement, "The buyer probably means a delivery confirmation number - so send him that."

This. Not sure why so many people misunderstood the obvious.
 

wiredspider

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Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Originally posted by: Adam8281
I think people are missing the main point here, which is that when the buyer said "send me the tracking #," he probably meant the delivery confirmation #. I often use the two terms interchangeably when buying/selling, and I've noticed others often do as well. Instead of going into the minutiae of the difference between a "tracking" and "delivery confirmation" number, I think this can be settled by the statement, "The buyer probably means a delivery confirmation number - so send him that."

This. Not sure why so many people misunderstood the obvious.

Yea, I don't think USPS has anything for tracking outside of that DC#. I would probably give the OP a neg/neutral for being an ass.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: wiredspider
Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
Originally posted by: Adam8281
I think people are missing the main point here, which is that when the buyer said "send me the tracking #," he probably meant the delivery confirmation #. I often use the two terms interchangeably when buying/selling, and I've noticed others often do as well. Instead of going into the minutiae of the difference between a "tracking" and "delivery confirmation" number, I think this can be settled by the statement, "The buyer probably means a delivery confirmation number - so send him that."

This. Not sure why so many people misunderstood the obvious.

Yea, I don't think USPS has anything for tracking outside of that DC#. I would probably give the OP a neg/neutral for being an ass.
Anything that requires a signature will be trackable

 

ballmode

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I always tell the buyer well I already shipped it and you didn't request one before hand. I tell them when it should arrive and contact me if you have any other questions.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The DC from the USPS is worthless.

It will demonstrate the the package made it to the zip-code, not the buyer.

You need to cover your butt by having signature confirmation and/or insurance on the item.

Any one of the items will provide a number that the buyer/seller can look up on the USPS website to see the status. Email the buyer with the number once you receive it from the PO. Make sure that you indicate whatthe number is (DC, signature/insurance).

Insurance is about $0.05/$100 coverage. This way, the buyer is forced to sign for the item; if it never makes it, then you get your insurance $$ back from the USPS.

Originally posted by: gersson
If he gets upset he can bitch to Paypal and you will be forced to pay back the money.

So unfairly favorable to buyers because it is convenient for their business model


It Happened to me
Guy lied to to get his money back. Damn CS

Agreed that DC is *nearly* worthless. However, as far as Paypal is concerned, it's good enough (apparently up to $250.) Thus, if the buyer files a dispute, you can make a claim and give the DC number. Buyer will lose.

HOWEVER, in the FS/T forums here, it's considered the seller's responsibility to get the item to the buyer. DC isn't good enough.
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: alevasseur14
Just get delivery confirmation and call it good enough. You said you'd send it USPS and even though DC is pretty useless, that's what you get.

I just sent a bunch of paperwork to my attorney yesterday and DC was an extra 70 cents. No big deal.

That's exactly what it cost me, 70 cents. As noted here, 1st Class is for maximum 13 oz., so I wound up getting Priority Mail. DC was extra, and it got me a tracking number which I emailed to the buyer. I haven't heard from him since I emailed him what appears in the OP. My impression is he's a pretty busy person. He has over 14000 ( ! ) feedbacks but is 100%, and the latter would give me confidence he's not going to try to stiff me. I believe he's got a company going and is going to sell the item somehow.
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: AkumaX
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: mrCide
DC is USPS tracking, it's free if you print it online (IIRC), I provide that for items I sell as a good will gesture though most people know it's fairly useless.

Ignore his moaning, some people are just anal.

Paypal has a label printing function and I looked at it. It says not to exceed 13 oz. and the item is 15.4 oz, so I can't use that. I'm bringing the package to the PS in a few minutes with my own label. If insurance is indeed a nickle per $100, I'll buy $150 ( the selling price was $155 ), so won't worry about the extra 15 cents. It's insurance for me.

15.4 oz? Pay the extra $1 and get USPS Priority w/ free DC
I did get Priority, but the DC was extra, at least the kind that got me a tracking number (70 cents).

 

Muse

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Originally posted by: Baked
Is this your first time selling stuff on the internet? If you use USPS.com's Click-N-Ship feature, you can print out the label and tape it to the package and ship it. Priority mail comes with free delivery confirmation number. I always print out the PayPal payment page and put that in the package. I also send the DC number to the buyer as soon as I send out the package. Everything works perfect that way for me.

Not the first time, but I'm far from experience. I've probably sold around 15 items, just guessing, just about all on Ebay. This is the biggest in terms of $$. Most of my other stuff was DVDs, used at that. Cheap stuff.
 

Muse

Lifer
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Originally posted by: gersson
If he gets upset he can bitch to Paypal and you will be forced to pay back the money.

So unfairly favorable to buyers because it is convenient for their business model


It Happened to me
Guy lied to to get his money back. Damn CS

Well, he's got over 14,000 feedback on ebay with 100%. He doesn't appear to be a slimebag. I think he's just a little bent, probably not very educated.