I don't know what he would have done, but based on the MSRP of the phone, his attitude toward other customers of his, bmacd and the fact that he all of a sudden checked his inventroy. Put 2 & 2 together buddy...its obvious that he is trying not to lose money...
I don't know what he would have done, but based on the MSRP of the phone, his attitude toward other customers of his, bmacd and the fact that he all of a sudden checked his inventroy. Put 2 & 2 together buddy...its obvious that he is trying not to lose money...
Uh, he's out the cost to list the phone, and the final value fee from him winning the auction...
Don't give me that bullsh!t. The buyer is not losing anything. Yes, he lost out on a good deal, but no money has exchanged hands, the seller told him that he does not want his money.
He is not gaining anything except the possibility of a negative. I guess if he has 3 already, maybe he doesen't care too much.. 3 out of how many?
It all boils down to your (the buyers) feedback. If you want to keep it clean, then you're going to have to leave him a positive.
If you really want to get technical, MAYBE he deserves a neutral... But not a negative. What has been so negative about the transaction? All he did was tell you that he won't be able to accept your money.
Oh, what a shame..... WTF? lol
OK so the buyer didn't lose anything but a good deal.
That doesn't give him the right to be pissed?
That doesn't give him the right to be pissed?
dude, im not even talking about feedback, i could care less what they give eachother for feedback, im talking about the networth. here i'll give you an example. somebody is auctioning a house, you win the auction for 100K, you later on find out he can't sell the house for whatever reason, and the house is worth 300K in the market. are you not losing out on a deal here? if you still can't see the bigger picture here i suggest you take economics and learn some shit.
what it really boils down to is that the seller is not living up to a service, and he should at the very least offer a raincheck.
and dude, his fees for listing the phone and final value is NOTHING compared to how much he'd be out for selling the phone for less than 200 bucks
what it really boils down to is that the seller is not living up to a service, and he should at the very least offer a raincheck.
and dude, his fees for listing the phone and final value is NOTHING compared to how much he'd be out for selling the phone for less than 200 bucks
Yeah, let's start in with the name calling, that'll show your intelligence.
I'm telling you that because it has EVERYTHING to do with this situation! It's called customer service! Didn't you read the rest of my post?
If I was using the logic in this thread, I should leave him a negative. Because.. Uhh.. the item wasn't as described in the auction. He didn't fulfill his end of the bargain! Right? Give me a break.
How the fsck am I being ignorant? Who cares if this guy is "pulling a scam"? It's not much of a scam, he certainly isn't going to gain anything by it. He's already lost several dollars from this auction.
It quite simply doesen't make any sense. The scenario that he explained in his email is MUCH more likely.
He emailed you and explained the situation, like ANY good seller would. There is nothing more he felt he can do.
You are taking this way too far.
No, I completely understand that! There's also a bit of a difference between a 300k house and a 200$ phone, but I digress.
But that isn't the point? The seller is talking to you, person to person. Human to human?
He's telling you that he made a mistake, and that he is sorry that he will not be able to take your money. Oh, what a crime!
If it REALLY irks you that bad, how about a positive saying "Did not have have merchandise, compromise reached.. prompt communication."
I mean what the hell? I'd be PISSED if some dipsh!t like you left me a negative after I explained myself. And I'm an experienced eBay seller, so don't fscking call me ignorant you asshat.
Christ.
are you reading MY posts?? did i ever talk about leaving negative feedback?? NO! and yet you bring it up when replying to my posts, and no it has nothing to do with this situation. yours is about a seller that refunds you for a cheap broken stereo.
this situation is about a person who fails to deliver a service because he's gonna lose out on this deal. and yeah he emailed an explanation, and what part of "HE'S BULLSHITTING" are you not able to grasp? not to mention the attitude in his second email
if anybody is taking it too far it would be you. yeah, when you started saying "wtf is wrong with you ppl"
question is, wtf is wrong with you?
So you're saying that if you won an auction for $100k on a house that was worth $200k and seller told you he couldn't sell b/c he made a mistake...you would chalk it up as an honest mistake? Bullsh!t, you would call him on it and be pissed as hell...unless you like getting steamrolled...
I could understant your point if this happened a day or two after the auction started...but not after the auction ended
for the love of god! get a clue, the guy is talking like that "person to person" to come off as a nice guy, but i dont care if he's a dickhead or not, poitn is that he's bullshitting. have you ever negotiated with a sales person? it looks like you have not.
and are you frigging thick?? how many times do i have to tell you that what im talking about has NOTHING to do with feedback so stop using that as an argument when you talk to me.
on another note, a negative feedback is completely justified, it is to warn other users that this kind of situation is a probability, maybe not a high one cuz there's not many of em, but thats cuz you keep discouraging them to not leave negative feedback when it's justified to do so...instead you tell them to leave a positive?? where the hell is your logic??
buyers will never get that this seller is a cunning dick of a seller if you tell them to leave a positive feedback which will mislead other buyers and not fully inform them.
Apples to apples please.
We're talking about a 200$ phone. Nowhere near the magnitude of a house.
What are the chances someone accidently lists a house they don't have? Come on.. I see the similarities, but it's just not the same..
Now, I do agree that he SHOULD have offered a raincheck. I absolutely completely agree, and that's the basis you should use for a neutral/negative, but like I said... you have to weigh whether getting one in return is worth it.
I have had this happen to me, me being the seller. I listed something, we didn't have it, I thought we did, someone bought it.
I said "Oh sh!t", emailed them and told them they could either wait 8 weeks, or we could leave eachother positive feedback and be done with it. They chose not to wait, we left eachother positive, and that was that.
The item was an 800 dollar glass annealing kiln. I really, really do not see what the big deal is.
Saying that you "don't have" something when it doesen't sell for as much as you want it to really is not a scam. You aren't cheating ANYBODY but yourself, both the listing fees(however small), and the potential for negative feedback. I want to repeat that, you are not cheating anybody but yourself.
You have NOT been cheated if you think you're going to buy something for XXX$ and the deal completely falls through. It may be disappointing.. but that's about it.
I agree, the house analogy is a bit extreme but replace that with any piece of consumer electronics and it gets our point across. It is obvious that the seller is trying to escape from selling the phone at a loss. For some reason you think its an honest mistake b/c it happened to you....but you don't get it.
We're not saying something like that isn't possible and doesn't happen...people make mistakes all the time...this "mistake" is just WAY too convienent for the seller to save an assload of money.
We're not saying something like that isn't possible and doesn't happen...people make mistakes all the time...this "mistake" is just WAY too convienent for the seller to save an assload of money.
What on Earth do you mean where is my logic??? Haven't you read any of my posts?
Your logic is based on the ASSumption that the guy is both an asshole and a liar!
I guess I'm just too nice, because my assumptions are based on the fact that he's a normal human being like me and sh!t happens. No skin off my back, so whats the problem????????
Jesus fscking christ! I can't believe this.
Like I said, I would be INFURIATED if you left me a negative feedback after I had already explained myself.
if you want to compare apples to apples, then why did you bring up that whole refund for a broken stereo? it had absolutely nothing to do with this. not to mention that the magnitude for the cost of the stereo was and this cell phone is in different categories.
the fact of the matter is that when you get something for a good deal and you then get some lame excuse without any compromise (such as a raincheck) then i smell a scum and a scam.
your situation for that $800 is completely different, did he get a steal from it? or was it within that price range. and im not doubting you as a seller, but i do doubt this guy. and like i said before, leaving a positive feedback is ntohing but deceitful for other buyers to review.
i know i wouldnt want to go through the same shiet this buyer went through despite that i didnt lose out on "paying".
did you read the OP and the feedback of the seller? He is a grade A asshole...my only assumption is that he is a liar and I feel completely confortable making that assumption based on the facts.
well tell it to somebody else because i'm not even putting any effort into arguing for leaving a positive or negative feedback. although i believe that i did make a good point for leaving one over the other, but i could care less which one is left.
yeah you're too nice, but we're not talking about you now are we. my assumptions of him being a liar and an ahole is based off something, and yeah he's a normal human being alright, a normal human being would attempt to bullshit out of selling a phone for that value
Originally posted by: thawolfman
Eli you sure you didn't DRINK that carb cleaner?
I was going to ask him what dope he's on myself lol anyways I think is apology was pretty insincere if you want to talk about apologies? Some that addresses you as "Dude" sounds very professional and caring to me...
my point exactly, i didnt like the tone in the second email. of course this all depends on what the OP wrote in reply to his first (afterall he didn't state word for word what he said to the seller)
Eli you're flip-flopping more than Kerry...now you suggest Neutral - Negative? What happened to the mutual positive man. That dope just be some "Grade A Columbian" eh?
:laugh:
btw, what "compromise" was reached?? you're assuming one was reached...but what compromise??? the fact that the seller sends back an email giving attitude saying "do u want me to magically produce one?"
Hmm, his website has a request a phone feature. Anyone want to make an offer too good to be true on a 6620? Perhaps he will magically find one.
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