Ebay problem -- Sold as working but it's not working... I fixed it!!!

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John Connor

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Hell if I'd wanna screw with it. Rather fix a computer. Not only that, but he's got buyer protection so might as well not mess with it and just send it back. Case closed.
 

Jerem

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I've had to file a not as described return a couple times over the years and ebay gives me a page to print that is a prepaid return label.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
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This is anandtech, doesn't anybody have any interest in trying to fix the unit on here? Maybe a gear got off sync with another gear or something.

I'd consider trying if it were mine. $100 is a lot to eat, but dicking around with ebay doesn't sound like an enjoyable time to me. I might keep and fix it.

Really, I wouldn't have gotten it in the first place. Disc changers were a good idea in the 80s. I thought they sucked back then, but it was better than the alternative. My big dream was a centralized repository of music, with nothing mechanical. I imagined buying a chip with music on it, and plugging it into a socket on the board. Add boards as you get more music, and control it all via remote. That would have been super cool compared to a disc changer, but even that sucks compared to a media server you can build for a couple hundred $ now. I see no reason to screw with discs at all after the initial purchase and rip. They have no benefits. Only drawbacks.
 

DaveSimmons

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File not as advertised, get your money back.

Rip to FLAC, build a tiny fanless HTPC. It only takes about 300 GB of disk space to store 1,000 CDs in lossless FLAC format.
 

Muse

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Yeah, I downloaded the service manual before I started this thread. I basically paged through the whole thing and found the page you linked and inspected it. What I see on the Display is this:

U2 All

It doesn't show A2, A5 or A(anything). Maybe I'm not interpreting the manual correctly with respect to what I'm seeing on the display. :confused:
 

Muse

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If I rip to FLAC, can I get the convenience I get when playing CDs? IOW, select an album, select a particular track, based on, say, track number or song title? Move to the next track, that kind of thing?
 

Muse

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The seller sent this today in response to my last message:

Hi,

Thats funny you said that about the please handle gently sharpie
thing, I previously did that when sending any fragile items. An article
came out about 6 months ago which investigated the handling of boxes that
said fragile and those that didn't, and the fragile boxes were actually
handled worse.

Good luck checking the differences between the machines,
I think that is your best bet right now. Wow! you much have a lot of discs,
that's pretty cool they can go master/slave.

Thank you,

He either doesn't know that I can contest this and get a refund or he's pretending (don't know the seller's gender, I just kind of think it's probably a guy).
 

chimaxi83

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May 18, 2003
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Unless this thing you bought is so rare that you can't find another, I'd return it asap. Not only to easily get your money back, but also to shove a giant e-penis up the rear of the sellers "no returns" policy.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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The seller sent this today in response to my last message:



He either doesn't know that I can contest this and get a refund or he's pretending (don't know the seller's gender, I just kind of think it's probably a guy).

Can you open an item not as described dispute yet? At least get the timer going and a match under his/her ass.

You two can still work it out while the dispute is open.
 

Ketchup

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Sep 1, 2002
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His history shows that he is fairly new, selling a lot of "this and that." Either he honestly doesn't know that you can contest, or he is hoping that you don't.

Either way, you have started communication, and he is not even mentioning a refund option. It's time to get eBay involved.
 
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If I rip to FLAC, can I get the convenience I get when playing CDs? IOW, select an album, select a particular track, based on, say, track number or song title? Move to the next track, that kind of thing?
With flac, you'd only be limited by the media program you use to play the files. Generally, you can create playlists, play specific albums, queue songs... Do note that some media programs do not handle flac.
 

DaveSimmons

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If I rip to FLAC, can I get the convenience I get when playing CDs? IOW, select an album, select a particular track, based on, say, track number or song title? Move to the next track, that kind of thing?

I use Foobar2000 for playback and it's very easy to keep the default playlist open and just add tracks to it.

I have my CDs ripped to

MPOP > (artist) > (album)
MCLASS > (composer) > (album)

So it's easy to go (menu) > Add files to playlist

Foobar has the typical play, pause, skip to next. I haven't tried using a remote control with it though.
 

Thump553

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If I rip to FLAC, can I get the convenience I get when playing CDs? IOW, select an album, select a particular track, based on, say, track number or song title? Move to the next track, that kind of thing?

Certainly-at least I can using my Logitech Squeezebox (no longer sold, proof that Logitech is run by incompetents or evil minions of satan) or my Sansa Clip+ portable player. FLAC files are the functional equivalent of CDs.

I use EAC to rip mine-somewhat of a learning curve to set up (but there is plenty of help on the internet) but it's free and does perfect rips every time. Make sure to properly tag your files, make a cue sheet and a playlist for each album and you are good to go.


OP: I strongly advise against trying to repair the CD player yourself, you can easily waive your rights to return/refund. File the claim with Ebay ASAP.
 

DaveSimmons

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FYI, dbPowerAmp has AccurateRip just like Exact Audio Copy, and is a bit easier to use.

It's also handy for bulk transcoding from lossless FLAC to lossy MP3 for a phone, tablet, etc. that doesn't have enough space to use lossless. I do that for my iPod 120GB.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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lol - dude convert your cds in itunes and play them over the network. Welcome to the future.
 

DaveSimmons

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lol - dude convert your cds in itunes and play them over the network. Welcome to the future.

If you love iStuff then Apple Lossless is an option, though the Windows iTunes CD-ripper sometimes fails badly at ripping discs.

Last year I added a bit of Cheap Trick to my collection and a copy of Dream Police straight out of the shrinkwrap ripped with horrible flaws in iTunes, then perfectly in dbPowerAmp.
 

Muse

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Certainly-at least I can using my Logitech Squeezebox (no longer sold, proof that Logitech is run by incompetents or evil minions of satan) or my Sansa Clip+ portable player. FLAC files are the functional equivalent of CDs.

I use EAC to rip mine-somewhat of a learning curve to set up (but there is plenty of help on the internet) but it's free and does perfect rips every time. Make sure to properly tag your files, make a cue sheet and a playlist for each album and you are good to go.


OP: I strongly advise against trying to repair the CD player yourself, you can easily waive your rights to return/refund. File the claim with Ebay ASAP.
I have a Sansa M250 (in fact two of them, had a 3rd but lost it at the gym). I've used EAC in the past, not a lot, but it's not foreign to me. I gather that it supports FLAC. The biggie at this point is my Nokia 520 Windows Phone. If it supports FLAC nicely, I figure why not?

I don't use the Sansa's a lot ever since I got the smartphone, but I do use them some, especially when I want FM (they do that better than the phone for FM reception).

What I'm going to do in terms of this 301 disk player (well, that's the plan ATM) is tell the seller I'm not into repairing electronic equipment, and that I'm going to return it, do the same with eBay. IOW, I'm not letting on that I'm still hoping I can repair it because I don't want them saying I screwed it up attempting to do so. In fact, I'm no EE, but I have had my hands in some things. I figure to look inside my working model, see if there's a difference with this non-working one. If I can't identify the problem (or if it's not practical to fix it), I'll return the thing.
 
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Muse

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If you love iStuff then Apple Lossless is an option, though the Windows iTunes CD-ripper sometimes fails badly at ripping discs.

Last year I added a bit of Cheap Trick to my collection and a copy of Dream Police straight out of the shrinkwrap ripped with horrible flaws in iTunes, then perfectly in dbPowerAmp.
I have some "standard" stuff, I don't know that it matters, but the great majority of my CDs are little known stuff, emerging artists. A fair number of the CD's I play have CD Text by virtue of my keyboard entry, the info wasn't on the CDs and my ripping software was unable to pull down info from the internet database.

I'm not worried about lossless. I typically record off FM in 128kbps, 44 khz MP3s and rip WAVs or CDs to MP3s in the same parameters. My smartphone has a 60GB microSD card, that's not a ton of storage, my hearing is so so at best (50% attenuated above 3k, they tell me). Well, I listen to a ton of 3 hour long MP3s on my smartphone, but I guess that's not the issue here. It would be nice if I could rip my ~500 CDs to format I can listen to on the phone. I'd like to be able to listen to them with some convenience with my computers on the wifi network and from the mini-stereo in my kitchen, maybe by way of a bluetooth or wifi enabled accessory. Actually, I use the headphone out jack of the mini-stereo to supply input for a little cheap $25 T Class Lepai amplifier. I could conceivably use a wireless device straight into that. I often use my smartphone's headphone out into the Lepai amp, cutting out the mini-stereo entirely (requires unplugging/replugging source for the amp).
 
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DaveSimmons

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I have some "standard" stuff, I don't know that it matters, but the great majority of my CDs are little known stuff, emerging artists. A fair number of the CD's I play have CD Text by virtue of my keyboard entry, the info wasn't on the CDs and my ripping software was unable to pull down info from the internet database.

I'm not worried about lossless. I typically record off FM in 128kbps, 44 khz MP3s and rip WAVs or CDs to MP3s in the same parameters. My smartphone has a 60GB microSD card, that's not a ton of storage, my hearing is so so at best (50% attenuated above 3k, they tell me). Well, I listen to a ton of 3 hour long MP3s on my smartphone, but I guess that's not the issue here. It would be nice if I could rip my ~500 CDs to format I can listen to on the phone. I'd like to be able to listen to them with some convenience with my computers on the wifi network and from the mini-stereo in my kitchen, maybe by way of a bluetooth or wifi enabled accessory. Actually, I use the headphone out jack of the mini-stereo to supply input for a little cheap $25 T Class Lepai amplifier. I could conceivably use a wireless device straight into that. I often use my smartphone's headphone out into the Lepai amp, cutting out the mini-stereo entirely (requires unplugging/replugging source for the amp).

I use 192kbps MP3 on my iPod for when I'm riding my Lifecycle, but I started with lossless for my home office jukebox then told dbPowerAmp to make MP3 copies of all of the FLACs.

If you don't mind setting aside the space for both formats on your hard drive one benefit of keeping the lossless version is that you can always re-transcode to a different bit rate for MP3. You could try 128 or 160 kbps MP3s to use less space, then re-transcode as 192 kbps for any CDs where you notice the lost quality.

dbPowerAmp does a pretty good job of finding song and CD titles for less well known artists in my collection like Chris Whitley and Eddi Reader, so you might not need to re-type too much while you rip.
 

lxskllr

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I use q8 vorbis(~256kbps) for my primary rip. It sounds perfect on my gear, and still allows a recode without losing much quality. It's half the size of flac.