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ebay laptops

ailetlvo

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So I'm looking to buy a laptop, and I was checking out ebay the other day to see what they have. Well, I found what seemed to be incredible deals for hundreds less than retail price. This particular IBM I was looking at seemed great, and when I ran the specs on IBM's website I found out that its being sold for rouggly 1000 less; then I got to the bottom and read that they were remanufactured laptops, so they might have been a used/returned laptop, a canceled order, or an over stock.

It noted that IBM had certified the laptop, and it comes with a 3 year warranty. If anything does happen to it, the warranty has it covered. If it was a 90 day warranty or somethin I wouldn't bother, but 3 years is a long time.

What do you guys think, scam or deal? Here is the link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...em&item=6788421598&category=31554&rd=1
 
Thats the exact laptop I purchased this weekend from the same seller. I ordered 2 day air shipping, and I already have a tracking number, scheduled to arrive tommorrow. I'll let you know, but it looks like the real deal so far. Plus his feedback is very good. Also if you read, the remanufactured description, it sounds like the units are mostly new, just orders that got cancelled. And with the 3 year warranty I feel pretty comfortable about it.
 
Given that most of IBMs PC sales are to corporate buyers, probably of lots of similar machines at the same time, it isn't terribly suspicious that their irregular stock should sell for rather less, as it lacks some of the consistency that the bigger buyers like.
Ebay isn't the most honest place around; but it sounds like you can't lose too hard with that sort of offer.
 
That is a GREAT deal, but there are two things that hold me back from it:
*Outdated workstation video card: the FireGL 9000 is pretty old, won't perform well for newer workstation applications. The FireGL T2 in the T42's is a bit better, but the FireGL 9000 is almost ancient.
*older Pentium M: The chip in that is a Banias CPU; somewhat slower than the current Dothan; only 1MB L2 Cache vs 2MB in Dothan; better battery life than Dothan
 
Thanks for the info guys. That last post has me second guessing, because I'm going to need at least a decent video card for running AutoCAD. I might wait on this and see how it turns out.
 
Ebay... hehe.... You have to be warned...

We've recovered no less than six of our stolen ThinkPads from eBay buyers. Imagine your surprise when you hear a knock on the door and it's the local police serving you a warrant for that THinkPad/laptop you just bought. FYI- We recover them because we install Computrace on them -ala laptop phone home. Last year we had roughly a 60% recovery rate, this year with the new version/implementation we are running 90% recovery.

So... buyer beware... eBay is a great clearing house for everything stolen.... Rule of thumb.... Use your credit card so that you have some degree of protectiona nd check your credit card's issuer's policy regarding such an incident.
 
I get my T40P in today... I'll let you know how the video card performs, in Lightwave 3d.. howmanh polygons it can handel modleing at the same time smoothly and such. AS for eBay I feel pretty safe with the buyer I purchased from and he is thinking about. They are an authorized IBM reseller so I doubt their selling ripped off merchandise. But we'll find out in a few hours! I can't wait.
 
Originally posted by: ailetlvo
Thanks for the info guys. That last post has me second guessing, because I'm going to need at least a decent video card for running AutoCAD. I might wait on this and see how it turns out.
See what AutoCAD recommends as far as a video card goes. I've not used it, so I can't comment to how well a FireGL 9000 will perform; but it is an older card. Still a great overall system tho :thumbsup:
 
Alright, I got the T40p in today. The seller shipped the unit the first available business day and I am very impressed with the overall quality of the transaction. I am typing this message right now on the T40p. Out of the box, it came with about an 18% battery charge. The unit was sealed new inside a IBM box. The FREE RAM upgrade advertised to up it to 1GB was not installed, it was placed in an envelope taped to the IBM box. The RAM included was Kingston PC2700 200 Pin DDR RAM 512MB. I installed that before anything and it took only seconds. There was only one available DIMM slot though so I'm guess this unit maxes out at 1.5GB RAM. When I first booted the system, it went through all kinds of crazy crap setting up the software for the first time. This whole process took about 1 hour to complete. After several reboots, I could finally use Windows and started installing my own stuff on it. The installes went well. The only problem I experienced was that Microsfts Office 2003 Pro CD Was too thick and rubbed the top of the CD drive cage so it could not spin up. I had to share a CD drive in my network and install it off of that. The wireless works well, and has much better range than my old notebook. It connects at 54MBps and has nearly 100% signal all through out my apartment. The keyboard is simply to die for. It is the most accurate comfortable thing I have ever typed on in my life. If eve kicks the crap outta my desktop keyboard which I paid a pretty penny for (Saitek Eclipse). The Screen is incredibly sharp and bright and even though it is not glossy the picture is incredible at 1400x1050 resolution. (The fonts are a bit small though so if you have bad eyesight then you may want to adjust some things. The video card is what has been brought into question. The only app I use that makes use of the video card extensively is Lightwave 3D. I loaded up the modeler program and made a ball object containing over 2000 polygons. No problem. Then I started duplicating it to see how far I could get. The Program started getting VERY slightly choppy around 50,000 polygons, and was somewhat choppy at 90,000 polygons (unlit/not textured) I stopped at just over 90,000 polygons, because in practice my models are not ussually this big, and it was still VERY workable. The choppiness did not affect my workflow at this point. I have no experience with AutoCAD but from my findings the OpenGL graphics performance is better than my old nVidia GeForce4 Ti4600 Card, but performs a little slower than my old 9800Pro. I'm still getting used to the trackpoint button mouse, but it's slowly coming back to me. The touchpad is responsive, and has a nice feel to it. The weight is very manageable, and is quite a bit lighter than my old Presario 2100 series notebook. The size is also nice, and it will fit into my backpack quite nicely. The only gripes I have so far with the unit are that the Hard Drive is bit noisy when seeking. Not horible, but if you are in a silent room its can be bothersome. and the right side of the palm rest gets a little warm. Not hot, just warm. Other than those two issues and the Microsoft CD issue I described This thing is pimpin.... hence T40p 🙂
 
Hmm, thanks for the detailed description. I'd appreciate it if you could maybe update me like once every week or 2 weeks just to let me know how it's running. Since I'm not in a rush to buy one, I can wait and see how it turns out.
 
Will do. Tonight after the battery was fully charged I used it with Wi-Fi enabled and the battery lasted just over 5 hours of constant use with wi-fi turned on screen at full brightness.
 
So the CD drive wouldn't fit your O2K CD??? Weird 😕 Maybe have IBM swap the drive out?

Glad to hear its working out so well. That is a helluva deal 🙂
 
Originally posted by: WackyDan
Ebay... hehe.... You have to be warned...

We've recovered no less than six of our stolen ThinkPads from eBay buyers. Imagine your surprise when you hear a knock on the door and it's the local police serving you a warrant for that THinkPad/laptop you just bought. FYI- We recover them because we install Computrace on them -ala laptop phone home. Last year we had roughly a 60% recovery rate, this year with the new version/implementation we are running 90% recovery.

So... buyer beware... eBay is a great clearing house for everything stolen.... Rule of thumb.... Use your credit card so that you have some degree of protectiona nd check your credit card's issuer's policy regarding such an incident.

We've had several laptops go missing, so I'd like to find a way to track them in the future. When I checked computraces website, it looks like it's just software, do they have any hardware embedded devices for tracking the laptops. Whats to stop someone from reimaging the system the second they get it? Get a couple of Dell/IBM recovery cd's and the key is on the laptop right?
 
Originally posted by: ND40oz
Originally posted by: WackyDan
Ebay... hehe.... You have to be warned...

We've recovered no less than six of our stolen ThinkPads from eBay buyers. Imagine your surprise when you hear a knock on the door and it's the local police serving you a warrant for that THinkPad/laptop you just bought. FYI- We recover them because we install Computrace on them -ala laptop phone home. Last year we had roughly a 60% recovery rate, this year with the new version/implementation we are running 90% recovery.

So... buyer beware... eBay is a great clearing house for everything stolen.... Rule of thumb.... Use your credit card so that you have some degree of protectiona nd check your credit card's issuer's policy regarding such an incident.

We've had several laptops go missing, so I'd like to find a way to track them in the future. When I checked computraces website, it looks like it's just software, do they have any hardware embedded devices for tracking the laptops. Whats to stop someone from reimaging the system the second they get it? Get a couple of Dell/IBM recovery cd's and the key is on the laptop right?


The New ThinkPads (ThinkPad only at this point-not Dell,HP or anyone else) now implement a firmware technology with the software agent.

While the agent is still loaded from the drive and runs within the OS -it also resides in firmware -like a backup-..... The firmware checks on every boot to see if the agent is installed and active. If the drive was formatted, replaced, or the service agent removed, the firmware automatically re-installs the agent, and most firewalls are written not to detect/let the agent talk to the outside world by default.

That's the reason the recovery rate has jumped so high.

And you do not have acces to the firmware.... Only the agent does. -So you can't or the theif can't turn it off in firmware.
 
Well, its like a week or so into it and teh laptop is running beautifully. It picks up wireless signals around my campus just fine.... (Though sometimes there are so many signals its hard to tel what to connect to) The battery is great, and the bicycle trip to campus with it in my backpack is very comfortable (weighs less than my texts) I haven't gotten the chance to put it to some serious graphics work yet, and I probably won't until the school year officially starts and I start doing all my webmaster duties. So far into the ownership I'd still highly recommend it. Still can't figure out the microsoft office CD thing. All other CD's I've tried work fine adn don't seem to scratch. I even burned a couple of cd's for my family.
 
Originally posted by: phaxmohdem
Well, its like a week or so into it and teh laptop is running beautifully. It picks up wireless signals around my campus just fine.... (Though sometimes there are so many signals its hard to tel what to connect to) The battery is great, and the bicycle trip to campus with it in my backpack is very comfortable (weighs less than my texts) I haven't gotten the chance to put it to some serious graphics work yet, and I probably won't until the school year officially starts and I start doing all my webmaster duties. So far into the ownership I'd still highly recommend it. Still can't figure out the microsoft office CD thing. All other CD's I've tried work fine adn don't seem to scratch. I even burned a couple of cd's for my family.
Have you installed the IBM Software Updater? That should update Access Connections (I'm assuming you're using that & not Windows WiFi config) and the latest versions of Access Connections list signal strength in addition to MAC & SSID.
 
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