Ebay buyer workaround....leaving positive feedback with negative comments?

[jhu]

You know, it's like writing evaluations when you're in the military. There's ways to write comments that make a person seem like they walk on water.......and then there's ways to write comments that, while on the surface may seem all well and good, actually show how mediocre the person's performance really was.

Just learn how to do the latter, and you might get away with it. :sneaky:

Examples of latter

 

[Raduque]

If enough people stopped selling on Fleabay AND told Fleabay why they stopped selling, maybe the policy would change.

People aren't going to stop selling on Fleabay though; the world is just too stupid to stop getting fucked in the ass.

 

[fatpat268]

If enough people stopped selling on Fleabay AND told Fleabay why they stopped selling, maybe the policy would change.

People aren't going to stop selling on Fleabay though; the world is just too stupid to stop getting fucked in the ass.

I've pretty much stopped selling on ebay, but I understand why most don't.

Ebay knows that they can continue to raise rates and enforce unpopular policies as long as they have no real competition. Sure, there's plenty of auction sites out there, but none really compete with ebay. In the end, people just suck it up and list on ebay anyway because they're the only meaningful auction site on the web.

 

[fleabag]

Go and try to leave a BUYER a neutral and report back.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

eBay realized a long time ago that as long as people can scrape a few cents selling crap on their site, they'd do it. Buyers can go somewhere else, though. I'm surprised there are anything other than businesses still selling items there at all. And those businesses do not play by the same rules as small and medium-volume personal sellers.

 

[alkemyst]

If enough people stopped selling on Fleabay AND told Fleabay why they stopped selling, maybe the policy would change.

People aren't going to stop selling on Fleabay though; the world is just too stupid to stop getting fucked in the ass.

Preach on brother...have us do as you say, not as you do.

The world is about fucking others in the ass. I don't agree with it, but how about you be the martyr first.

 

[alkemyst]

dude, that's not leaving a BUYER a feedback, you were the BUYER.

 

[fleabag]

dude, that's not leaving a BUYER a feedback, you were the BUYER.

So you're saying that you can't leave neutral feedback if you're a seller?

 

[SparkyJJO]

You aren't getting it.

BUYERS (in this case, YOU) can leave the seller any feedback.

SELLERS can't leave a buyer anything but a positive. Which sucks because if you have a deadbeat buyer, well, too bad, you can't do anything about it. I suppose you could just not leave anything, but that's not as good as leaving a negative to warn others.

Part of me sees why this happened. I got a retaliatory feedback once for no good reason. It was only a neutral (I left him a neutral due to really bad packaging) but still it was really dumb. However, now buyers in general know they can get away with stuff and can't get a negative over it.

I'll still buy on ebay, but I won't sell. Never did because of the fees and stupid people, but now I have even less of a reason to sell. A buyer's feedback on ebay means almost nothing now.

 

[fleabag]

I think the reason ebay got rid of the feedback system for sellers to rate buyers is because they're treating sellers more like a business. I mean when you go to amazon, all you see is people critiquing the products but you don't see the manufacturer's critiquing the buyers.. So what you end up with is a lot of people saying "this product blows!" but nothing from the company disputing it or saying something like "terrible buyer, RTFM". Fair or not, I can see why they'd do it that way..

 

[KeypoX]

So you're saying that you can't leave neutral feedback if you're a seller?

what a suiting name for a ebay defender lol

You can't leave anything but positive if your the seller. This actually fixed a bigger problem, the problem of sellers leaving negative if you left negative. I had one negative from a seller! Its gone now lol.

 

[fatpat268]

You're a buyer trying to leave a seller feedback. You can give a positive, neutral or negative.

We are all referring to a seller leaving a buyer feedback. You can only give a positive feedback.

Like this:

Is that so hard to understand? :hmm:

I think the reason ebay got rid of the feedback system for sellers to rate buyers is because they're treating sellers more like a business. I mean when you go to amazon, all you see is people critiquing the products but you don't see the manufacturer's critiquing the buyers.. So what you end up with is a lot of people saying "this product blows!" but nothing from the company disputing it or saying something like "terrible buyer, RTFM". Fair or not, I can see why they'd do it that way..

There's no need for feedback for buyers on Amazon. Amazon is not an auction site. You buy something, and you pay for it on Amazon for the transaction to complete.

On ebay, you have that option if a seller posts it as a buy it now with instant payment, but with auctions, you're still relying on people to pull through and actually pay after they won an auction.

 

[Raduque]

Preach on brother...have us do as you say, not as you do.

The world is about fucking others in the ass. I don't agree with it, but how about you be the martyr first.

Eh? I don't sell on Fleabay. Never have, never will.

 

[MJinZ]

The thing is about Ebay is that it is a buyer's biased (as it sort of should be). Sellers are then forced to cater to these policies because buyers do not look elsewhere.

I sell stuff sometimes on Amazon.com without problem, but the problem is that Amazon.com gets a huge commission.

 

[alkemyst]

what a suiting name for a ebay defender lol

You can't leave anything but positive if your the seller. This actually fixed a bigger problem, the problem of sellers leaving negative if you left negative. I had one negative from a seller! Its gone now lol.

retalitory feedback has always been something you could contest.

They pulled that ability for sellers.

The reason for this change was to encourage more bidders, esp the bad ones. Ebay viewed this as a win-win. Seller's still paid their fees, buyer's still would bid those fees up and in the end those that simply didn't pay the seller's much of the time would eat the loss.

Since these changes I have had more <10 feedback bidders bid up my item when another just like it was being sold. My ended early and the buyer is non-responsive. I have to then fight it out with ebay and wait quite a while.

 

[alkemyst]

Eh? I don't sell on Fleabay. Never have, never will.

figured as much so your thoughts are irrelevant to this.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

Just do this.
http://www.xkcd.com/325/

 

[coloumb]

Just do this.
http://www.xkcd.com/325/

Just do what? Click on the link and suddenly you're computer has 15 billion viruses and spyware?

Ebay is what it is - it's a huge garage sale of cheap ass bastards trying to get the lowest price possible with a mish-mash of businesses [a lot of them from China].

The feedback system sucks - but it's about the best they can do for such a wide audience. If you encounter someone who's purposely being a dumbass - go through the official channels of complaints and it should get resolved.