Eating in the Midwest

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zinfamous

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Originally posted by: GrumpyMan
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: vi edit
I live in central IL which isn't that far away and that's not really something I've witnessed. Maybe on some meals, yeah. Like thanksgiving for example I'll chunk up my turkey and toss some stuffing + mashed potatoes over it and then slather it in gravy making for something like you described. But that's really the only meal I do that for.

Of course last night I had a "Que Shoe" which consisted of a piece of Texas toast covered in half a pound of BBQ slathered pulled pork, with that covered with french fries, and then the whole thing covered in melted cheese. But it was a "Texas Style" bbq shack so I blame Texas for that sinful plate of heaven.

if it was pulled pork it certainly wasn't texas style. in fact, if you tried something like that down here, i believe three rednecks who were dropping off their deer haul for processing would chase you out of the smokehouse.

Pulled pork? The only thing we do with pork here in texas is fry it, barbque it or rope it. Pulled pork? WTF.........

You've never heard of a pig picking?


You sad, sad person....

Without a doubt, the greatest style of BBQ is that found in NC--which starts its life as pulled pork (also chopped)
 

PepePeru

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i'm a big fan of mixing up food into one slop type mixture.

mashed potatoes + kernel corn (green beans also work) + some type of gravy is delicious.

then if you just add some sort of roast beef, chicken fried steak or something to it, its even better.

so, yeah. i'm a food mixer. i grew up about 30 miles from kansas, which i guess is considered the 'midwest'

that is if you subscribe to the theory of geographic determinism vis a vis your food consumption habits.

 

GrumpyMan

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: GrumpyMan
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: vi edit
I live in central IL which isn't that far away and that's not really something I've witnessed. Maybe on some meals, yeah. Like thanksgiving for example I'll chunk up my turkey and toss some stuffing + mashed potatoes over it and then slather it in gravy making for something like you described. But that's really the only meal I do that for.

Of course last night I had a "Que Shoe" which consisted of a piece of Texas toast covered in half a pound of BBQ slathered pulled pork, with that covered with french fries, and then the whole thing covered in melted cheese. But it was a "Texas Style" bbq shack so I blame Texas for that sinful plate of heaven.

if it was pulled pork it certainly wasn't texas style. in fact, if you tried something like that down here, i believe three rednecks who were dropping off their deer haul for processing would chase you out of the smokehouse.

Pulled pork? The only thing we do with pork here in texas is fry it, barbque it or rope it. Pulled pork? WTF.........

You've never heard of a pig picking?


You sad, sad person....

Without a doubt, the greatest style of BBQ is that found in NC--which starts its life as pulled pork (also chopped)


NC for barbeque? Lol....these damed yankees............:D
 

imported_Baloo

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Well, if you saw one person doing it, it's safe to say it's a regional thing, and very common too.

For real now, you did see other diners. You don't mention seeing anyone else doing that, but surely you did see others. Based on what you saw others doing, in numbers greater than one, safe to say that one idiner represents an unusual dining ritual that likely has nothing to do with where it happened?
 

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Originally posted by: m1ldslide1
My folks are both from MO and so I spent summers there growing up. I have never witnessed this phenomenon you describe, so I think it's probably limited.

I did however witness that in rural MO and OK you have to order your fast food at a much slower pace. I had the following exchange 3 or 4 times on my last road trip through there as a teenager, and my order ALWAYS came out wrong:

Me: "Bacon cheeseburger meal with no onions, and a sprite"
Them: ".... what?"
Me: "Um, bacon cheeseburger meal without onions and a sprite?"
Them: ... *blink some, then punch something into the register*

Apparently northwesterners talk too fast. I'll admit I don't pause in between words when ordering ff, but come on now people.

What's that you say? You're mumbling. Ever thought about a speach therapist? Might help you better enunciate your words.
 

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Originally posted by: Baloo
Well, if you saw one person doing it, it's safe to say it's a regional thing, and very common too.

For real now, you did see other diners. You don't mention seeing anyone else doing that, but surely you did see others. Based on what you saw others doing, in numbers greater than one, safe to say that one idiner represents an unusual dining ritual that likely has nothing to do with where it happened?

Multiple people in multiple establishments, but that was the only city I've ever seen it in.



Is it true they don't have pulled pork in Texas? I was discussing this with a co-worker and he said he never say any in Texas, but I figured he must be crazy because I thought pulled pork was a barbecue staple in every region.

KT
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: sandorski
I'll have to take your word for it. If Montana's had such a thing I'd give it a try. Their Jack Daniels Rib Burger would likely make a good Base for such a thing.

:Q
Where can this be obtained?

Montanas, it's a restaurant chain. Not sure if it was a limited time thing though. I usually go for their All You can Eat Ribs Night every Wednsday, the first time I went there though I had the Burger.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
You should try the upper midwest. No cutting needed because everything is tossed in a dish with cream-of-something soup and baked for an hour at 350. Most meals are easily consumed with only a spoon.

:laugh:
 

Excelsior

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That sounds more like a low class redneck thing. I've been out that way before and didn't see such behavior.
 

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
So I was in a small town called Chesterfield, which is about 40 minutes outside of St. Louis. I never really got a chance to hit St. Louis proper, aside from the airport, due to having to help out with some wedding stuff, so all of my experiences were confined to this small part of Missouri.

Anyway, I did end up eating at a few different establishments while I was in Chesterfield/Wentzville and I saw this very strange phenomenon in all of them.

When the food was delivered (huge portions by the way, quite ridiculous) the diner would take their fork and knife and cut everything into pieces, then flip it over and cut it some more, essentially mixing all of the different foods together into some sort of hybrid slop/stew thing in the process. At the end of about 3 run-throughs of cutting, they would drop the knife and start shoveling the food into their gaping maws until it was all done. The entire thing from receiving the food, to asking for the bill, typically took about 10 minutes. It was a disgusting display. I saw it only twice at dinner, but about five or six times at breakfast.

So my question is, did I witness something that is unique to this particular part of the world, or did I just happen to see a small group of freaks (at different restaurants mind you) that like to eat something akin to baby food? I've never seen anything like that anywhere else, so I need to know if anyone else has seen it. Why don't they just get their food in a trough, it would probably be a few minutes faster that way.

KT

Sounds like you were eating at some bad restaurants. If you eat poor than what do you expect?

Go somewhere halfway decent next time ... I'm sure St Louis has a Morton's.
 

waffleironhead

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Originally posted by: SnipeMasterJ13
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: dainthomas
You should try the upper midwest. No cutting needed because everything is tossed in a dish with cream-of-something soup and baked for an hour at 350. Most meals are easily consumed with only a spoon.

Well that sounds disgusting too.

KT

Not necessarily. Tater Tot Hotdish is delicious. Make fun of me all you want for it, it's damn good.

Ill back you on that one. TTH ftw!
 

Ruptga

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I'm from Missouri and my Dad's entire side still lives in the St. Louis area, and I have never seen what you just described.
 

Anubis

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tbqhwy.com
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: vi edit
Of course last night I had a "Que Shoe" which consisted of a piece of Texas toast covered in half a pound of BBQ slathered pulled pork, with that covered with french fries, and then the whole thing covered in melted cheese. But it was a "Texas Style" bbq shack so I blame Texas for that sinful plate of heaven.

People actually eat like that?
:Q

As a proud Texan, I fail to see the problem here.

About 2 thousand extra calories and a few hundred grams of fat.

I think it's fine with just the pulled pork. On fries? with cheese? WTF mate.

im not from texas but i really want to eat that thing, sounds fucking awsome
 

rezinn

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: hanoverphist
im amused that you spent so much time analyzing your fellow diners eating habits. you sound fun to hang with. if i had noticed it at all, id probably be amused by it, but not shocked and dismayed that someone acted/ ate differently than i do. drop it down a couple notches there, sparky.

It was pretty hard not to notice, I could hear the fast-paced *scrape clink clink* of the cutlery going mad on the plate. Once I looked over I couldn't help but watch. Besides, i was with my Mother and we had run out of things to talk about probably 5 days prior.

Yes, I did see it more with breakfast, but the majority of the time pancakes were involved. So it was usually pancakes, eggs, bacon, sausage, and hash browns, all being chopped up together with some syrup and butter. Looked freaking disgusting to me.

KT

I'm guessing you don't like the mcgriddle? I've never had one but it looks pretty gross to me.

And I don't see a problem with some breakfast combinations. If it was eggs, bacon, and potatoes I might do that too - ever had a burrito with those at a good mexican place? Yum.
 

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Originally posted by: Playmaker
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
So I was in a small town called Chesterfield, which is about 40 minutes outside of St. Louis. I never really got a chance to hit St. Louis proper, aside from the airport, due to having to help out with some wedding stuff, so all of my experiences were confined to this small part of Missouri.

Anyway, I did end up eating at a few different establishments while I was in Chesterfield/Wentzville and I saw this very strange phenomenon in all of them.

When the food was delivered (huge portions by the way, quite ridiculous) the diner would take their fork and knife and cut everything into pieces, then flip it over and cut it some more, essentially mixing all of the different foods together into some sort of hybrid slop/stew thing in the process. At the end of about 3 run-throughs of cutting, they would drop the knife and start shoveling the food into their gaping maws until it was all done. The entire thing from receiving the food, to asking for the bill, typically took about 10 minutes. It was a disgusting display. I saw it only twice at dinner, but about five or six times at breakfast.

So my question is, did I witness something that is unique to this particular part of the world, or did I just happen to see a small group of freaks (at different restaurants mind you) that like to eat something akin to baby food? I've never seen anything like that anywhere else, so I need to know if anyone else has seen it. Why don't they just get their food in a trough, it would probably be a few minutes faster that way.

KT

Sounds like you were eating at some bad restaurants. If you eat poor than what do you expect?

Go somewhere halfway decent next time ... I'm sure St Louis has a Morton's.

As I stated in the OP you quoted, I never got into St. Louis proper, I was in a little town outside of the city. The most upscale restaurant in our part of town appeared to be Olive Garden. So yeah, not a lot of options.

KT
 

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Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Originally posted by: SnipeMasterJ13
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: dainthomas
You should try the upper midwest. No cutting needed because everything is tossed in a dish with cream-of-something soup and baked for an hour at 350. Most meals are easily consumed with only a spoon.

Well that sounds disgusting too.

KT

Not necessarily. Tater Tot Hotdish is delicious. Make fun of me all you want for it, it's damn good.

Ill back you on that one. TTH ftw!

Just Googled it and it looks pretty gross, though I've never really been one for tots, so that may be why it looks gross to me.


Originally posted by: rezinn

I'm guessing you don't like the mcgriddle? I've never had one but it looks pretty gross to me.

And I don't see a problem with some breakfast combinations. If it was eggs, bacon, and potatoes I might do that too - ever had a burrito with those at a good mexican place? Yum.

Don't think I've had a McGriddle as I haven't been to McDonald's for years. You're right, mixing up certain items is totally fine, but it was the way it was done that I found very strange. It seems as if it is a very localized phenomenon though.

KT
 

BoberFett

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Knife and fork? What are those for? Here in MN we just eat straight from the trough. :roll:
 

Chunkee

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It is called, "Guthram"

Its a way of post paring your food before you eat it. Look it up. I lived in Missouri bout 26 years.. Columbia, went to Mizzou. Saw a few people do it. Whats worse are the ones that eat the plate and cup. I never did such things though. I was barely able to use a fork let alone a knife.

jC
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: Chunkee
It is called, "Guthram"

Its a way of post paring your food before you eat it. Look it up. I lived in Missouri bout 26 years.. Columbia, went to Mizzou. Saw a few people do it. Whats worse are the ones that eat the plate and cup. I never did such things though. I was barely able to use a fork let alone a knife.

jC

Teh Googles did nothing. I couldn't find any food references for 'guthram', just locations.

KT
 

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
I was in British Columbia once and witness some guy fucking another guy in the ass outside of a bar though. Is that some sort of local phenomenon? Do all the men there fuck each other in the ass or did I just see some local freaks or something?

Do act so damn innocent. What did you expect outside of The Raging Lumberjack at the height of The Cornhole Festival, bad table manners?