Eat the same thing everyday?

[Mai72]

Does anyone do this?

In my case, I like to prepare my meals in advance. My typical meals look like this:

Lunch:

*5oz grass fed beef
*100oz steamed brocolli
*2 TBSP coconut oil
*1 TBSP organic butter
*120z almond milk
*1 pak almonds
*1 Quest bar
*1 scoop protein

Before Dinner:

*1 Spinach/Kale Nutribullet

Dinner:

*1 earl greay decaf tea w/ 1 TBSP organic butter
*3 chicken wings
*1 bowl HUGE spring saled w/ 2 TBSP crushed walnuts, 1 TBSP olive oil

7PM Snack

*1 huge fat bomb. Peanut butter, coconut oil, organic butter.

I do Intermittent fastening, so no breakfast. I'm on a high fat, low carb, moderate protein. I doubt it's Keto though. I'd need to get rid of the Quest bar. I'm getting about 120 grams of protein. I weigh 203 and I'm 5"10. So yea, I do need to lose weight. My idea weight would be 190lbs muscular with about 12-15% BMI. So, I've been doing this daily for 6 days and on Sunday I eat foods that are different. That could be low carb pizza w/ Almond crust. Eggs and bacon. Stuff like that. To say that this is easy would be a lie. It has been hard, and I'm craving Doritos everyday. lol.

Do you like diversity when you eat, or do you eat the same foods everyday?

 

[balloonshark]

Can I haz your stuff? I will never understand how otherwise intelligent people buy into this high fat and oil is good for you craze. It just doesn't make sense to me. That can't be healthy long term can it?

As far as your question I have a high tolerance for eating the same things daily. Since changing what I eat I have eaten pretty much the same things for breakfast since November and I've pretty much been eating "Buddha bowls" all year for dinner.

 

[whm1974]

I prefer to eat with some diversity. But some things I could eat everyday or often.

 

[Thebobo]

Well its better the big macs every day.

 

[Mai72]

Can I haz your stuff? I will never understand how otherwise intelligent people buy into this high fat and oil is good for you craze. It just doesn't make sense to me. That can't be healthy long term can it?

As far as your question I have a high tolerance for eating the same things daily. Since changing what I eat I have eaten pretty much the same things for breakfast since November and I've pretty much been eating "Buddha bowls" all year for dinner.

Are you saying the high fat, low carb Keto craze is bullsh*t. You see, this is where I get confused.

I thought good fat like coconut oil, butter and olive oil are actually good. Doctors prescribe the keto diet to to diabetics and cancer patients. I've only been doing Keto for a short time, but I do feel that my mindset is much better.

Books that have influenced me to go the Keto route are:

*Keto for Cancer
*The Keto Reset Diet
*Fat for Fuel

Check out Mark Sisson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1jXS6Ue3GM

Long term? TBH, studies haven't been done yet. We are the actual guniea pigs I guess.

 

[balloonshark]

Are you saying the high fat, low carb Keto craze is bullsh*t. You see, this is where I get confused.

I thought good fat like coconut oil, butter and olive oil are actually good. Doctors prescribe the keto diet to to diabetics and cancer patients. I've only been doing Keto for a short time, but I do feel that my mindset is much better.

Books that have influenced me to go the Keto route are:

*Keto for Cancer
*The Keto Reset Diet
*Fat for Fuel

Check out Mark Sisson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1jXS6Ue3GM

Long term? TBH, studies haven't been done yet. We are the actual guniea pigs I guess.

I guess eating fat, oil, butter, bacon and eggs as well as putting yourself into a state that isn't natural doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't pass the sniff test or if it sounds too good to be true come to mind. All all our lives we've been told to limit or avoid those foods. Honestly it would just be nice if there were people we paid to look out for us who were unbiased and gave us info based on solid science. I guess we'll have to move to another country.

 

[PeterScott]

Are you saying the high fat, low carb Keto craze is bullsh*t. You see, this is where I get confused.

I thought good fat like coconut oil, butter and olive oil are actually good. Doctors prescribe the keto diet to to diabetics and cancer patients. I've only been doing Keto for a short time, but I do feel that my mindset is much better.

Books that have influenced me to go the Keto route are:

*Keto for Cancer
*The Keto Reset Diet
*Fat for Fuel

Check out Mark Sisson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1jXS6Ue3GM

Long term? TBH, studies haven't been done yet. We are the actual guniea pigs I guess.

Mark is probably the biggest name in Paleo today, and he makes a living selling Paleo books and supplements. Though I do find it funny that the guy who says we should eat like cavemen, sells supplements.

But, you are going for Keto? I do think keto hype is BS.

If it's your last resort to lose weight before Bariatric Surgery, maybe consider it in the short term. But I don't think this is a good option for long term health. Neither do most health experts:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/04/health/keto-worst-diet-2018/index.html

Some people seem to have extraordinary ability to clear blood lipids, but I have seen Keto people talking about their cholesterol going over 300, and even over 400. I wouldn't just assume you are one the lucky people that can clear that much fat without issues.

I think anyone considering this eating pattern, should at minimum get your blood tested a month or more in. Not just cholesterol, but liver/kidney markers as well.

Humans are like rats or cockroaches when it comes to short term survival. You can live on nothing but bananas for year, or potatoes, or just meat for a year. But that doesn't make any of those options healthy in the long term.

Just because some internet celebrity looks good for their age, is no reason to follow their diet.

 

[whm1974]

I stay away from fad diets as much as I can. And there is no way I'm letting my cholesterol even getting to 300 less much over.

 

[Kaido]

I did it for awhile (re: various "Dave's losing the gut" threads over the last decade). And then I started introducing a rotating diet because it gets boring pretty quickly. But it WAS easy to follow. For me, the trick was distracting myself while eating, because it was boring doing plain chicken & broccoli every day, so I'd read ATOT or watch Youtube or something to distract myself from the boring meal. Then five minutes later you feel awesome because you just ate plain, whole foods with no preservatives or artificial anything. I went through a Soylent phase as well, which is probably the most convenient food on the planet, especially now that it comes pre-bottled & shelf-stable (worked great, FYI). Eventually I learned how to cook (especially with the Game Genies of food - the Instant Pot & Anova) and learned about IIFYM. So now I tend to eat great-tasting homemade food that fits my macros, with some junk food thrown in here & there (like Whoppers) for good measure.

I'm a big fan of the idea of eating a variety of foods, for a variety of reasons, including (1) so you don't go insane, because you're getting some variety in your diet, and (2) because we still know surprisingly little about the real effects of nutrition, how it affects longevity & disease, etc. We know what the minimum required to keep you alive (see the W.H.O.), we know what works for getting you in-shape through fat loss & muscle gain (macros), but there's still a lot we don't know. I do think eating real food is best for you body. But there's this weird dichotomy where even though whole foods make you feel awesome, that's not enough of an addicting draw to lure you in day after day - I'd still much rather live on fast food, take-out, and junk food all the time, but I also like to feel good & not be a butterball, so there's some balance involved.

My recommendation? If you use Gmail, send yourself an email every day with what you ate for the day. A personal thread of your basic daily food log. Optionally add in bowel movement times & results, energy levels, mood, etc., but at minimum, just write down what you ate for the day. It not only helps you track yourself when going through phases (I have ADHD, so my brain tells me that whatever I'm doing now is what I'll be doing forever & ever, when that's clearly not true, but that doesn't change how it feels! lol), but also gives you a visual history that you can skim through over time. My knowledge of food has taken five or ten years to get where it is today. Right now, I really like IIFYM as a sustainable approach to getting good results while also not going nuts from a restrictive diet. And that works whether you're eating the same thing every day or whether you have a month's worth of variety. My personal preference at this time is to eat a variety of foods, to fit them in my daily macros, and to prepare meals that I look forward to eating. It's so much easier to stick with your diet when (1) you prep your meals ahead of time, and (2) you look forward to eating each meal because it tastes awesome.

Looking forward to eating a meal that has already been made is the best way I've found to be successful (particularly with IIFYM). I have an insulated lunchbox from Isolator Fitness to carry my food with me all day long, plus alarms on my phone for when to eat. Alarm goes off, I pull out a prepared meal, and it's something yummy so I want to eat it vs. going to the nearest fast-food restaurant or vending machine. This sounds simple, but it's literally life-changing. You feel good all day, you get in great shape through food, and you just don't have to worry about questions like "what's for dinner?" anymore.

 

[Kaido]

Mark is probably the biggest name in Paleo today, and he makes a living selling Paleo books and supplements. Though I do find it funny that the guy who says we should eat like cavemen, sells supplements.

But, you are going for Keto? I do think keto hype is BS.

tbh I don't have any problem with paleo or keto, anything that gets people to pay attention to what they eat & to eat more real food is a Good Thing imo. A lot of people eat like crap & those diets provide them with the structure they need to improve their lives through better food choices. My personal approach, at the moment, is that IIFYM is great if you are interested in getting results, and the more real, whole foods you can ingest, the better - meat, veggies, greens, fruits, nuts, etc.

But I don't really buy into the supplements game (outside of say, something prescribed by a doctor to correct something specific, like low iron). I use protein powder sometimes, mostly as a quick way to get a meal or meet my macros for the day, or more often to blend into a dessert recipe to enhance the nutrition, but I'm not even a fan of vitamins.

 

[Kaido]

Humans are like rats or cockroaches when it comes to short term survival. You can live on nothing but bananas for year, or potatoes, or just meat for a year. But that doesn't make any of those options healthy in the long term.

I think that's key right there. I did fruitarian for like six months. Felt pretty awesome, but then, you're living on high amounts of sugar & your digestion is amazing (low fat + high fiber lol). Long-term? Maybe. Maybe not. Best I've ever felt in my life was on the fruit-based diet, and different diets make you feel differently. A healthy vegan diet (not like Boca burgers & Tofutti & stuff) makes you feel pretty light & energetic as well. But it's also great grilling up some burgers with my family & going into a food coma while watching a movie at home. Long-term nutrition is still such a question mark in many ways that I don't really feel comfortable recommending a super-restrictive diet to most people. That's probably my only real issue with keto, is how many natural, healthy foods you "can't" eat anymore, but then again, a lot of people doing those diets were eating way worse before & those diets are a big step up for them, so I can't complain too much!

 

[whm1974]

I think that's key right there. I did fruitarian for like six months. Felt pretty awesome, but then, you're living on high amounts of sugar & your digestion is amazing (low fat + high fiber lol). Long-term? Maybe. Maybe not. Best I've ever felt in my life was on the fruit-based diet, and different diets make you feel differently. A healthy vegan diet (not like Boca burgers & Tofutti & stuff) makes you feel pretty light & energetic as well. But it's also great grilling up some burgers with my family & going into a food coma while watching a movie at home. Long-term nutrition is still such a question mark in many ways that I don't really feel comfortable recommending a super-restrictive diet to most people. That's probably my only real issue with keto, is how many natural, healthy foods you "can't" eat anymore, but then again, a lot of people doing those diets were eating way worse before & those diets are a big step up for them, so I can't complain too much!

I'm fairly sure that eating a fruitarian diet long term will lead to type 2 diabetes.

 

[PeterScott]

I'm fairly sure that eating a fruitarian diet long term will lead to type 2 diabetes.

I am fairly sure that is much less likely than when consuming the SAD, or even high fat fad diets:
https://ucdintegrativemedicine.com/2016/09/diet-diabetes-saturated-fats-real-enemy/

There was a recent case of guy who ate nothing but meat for year(carnivore diet). When he had a blood test, he was in the diabetic range on one test, and heavily into pre-diabetic on another(fasting blood sugar was found to be 127 and his Hb(a)1c was 6.3). He didn't have any carbs for a year, let alone sugar, and he pushed himself into at least pre-diabetes on an all meat diet.
https://donmatesz.blogspot.ca/2018/04/shawn-bakers-carnivore-diet-blood-tests.html

The Paleo/Keto community continually comes up with all kinds of excuses why out of range blood markers just don't matter for them...

I really think people following any fad diet (Carnivore, Keto, or Fruitarian) should get blood-work done, and change their diet if you get out of range values. Ignoring those negative changes is living in denial.

But in a world where we have evidence that even Extra Virgin Olive Oil causes your arteries to clamp down and has been associated with increased arterial plaques in animal studies. There is no way in hell I would go on any high fat Keto diet.

Though of course the absolute worse thing is the SAD, because it has excess saturated fat, excess sugar and processed food, and excess calories. It's a synergy for ill health outcomes.

 

[whm1974]

I myself do make some effort to eat wider variety of foods and I'm also making headway towards consuming less processed foods as well. I guess I will be eating more kimchi in the future.

 

[Kaido]

I'm fairly sure that eating a fruitarian diet long term will lead to type 2 diabetes.

No, because sugar isn't the whole story. The quantity of fat & fiber affects how your blood handles sugar. Fruit is typically a low-fat, high-fiber, high-sugar food. The less fiber you have, the more likely sugar is to spike your blood sugar levels. The more fat you have, the more it interferes with glucose transport into your muscles (aka insulin resistance). So if you're eating high-sugar, low-fat, high-fiber foods like fruit, you're generally OK. On the extreme side, if you have diabetes, then you primarily need to control your carb intake. Here's an interesting video that is worth watching to the end:

On the other extreme, with high-fat keto diets, you're already limiting your carb intake. It has a lot to do with inflammation as well, but that's a topic for an entirely different post, haha. Another angle to look at is macro intake. So from a high-level perspective, your body is powered by calories, and your stomach absorbs three primary fuel sources (protein, fat, and carbs), which add up to your total calorie intake for the day. We know from various studies what our minimum water intake is & what our minimum intake required is for those three macros. We also know from macro programs (such as Macros for Dummies, aka IIFYM), how to calculate out what your own body's requirements are for one of three specific goals (weight gain, weight maintenance, and weight loss) in order to get specific measurable & visible results over time. We know a lot about reversing heart disease & Type II diabetes through diet as well. Although there's still a lot we don't know about food & nutrition, we do have enough information to make good decisions for our health & to help guide us into getting the results we want.

Anyway, eating a lot of fruit won't necessarily make you diabetic, although if you ARE diabetic, then you need to watch your carb intake regardless. On the flip side, look at a lot of the junk food we consume, such as soda (which is essentially pure liquid sugar) & sugary treats (low-fiber, high-fat, high-sugar) are basically the opposite of fruit. When you don't pad high sugar intake with high fiber & low fat, then things start to get a little crazy with the sugar spikes in your blood. Oh, and you can be pretty healthy on a fruitarian diet...plenty of people have gotten good results on it. Note that fruitarian doesn't necessarily mean 100% fruit-only, but is a raw (uncooked) vegan (no animal products) diet that is also made up of greens, nuts, and seeds. Check out this guy as a good example of fruitarian done right:

 

[PeterScott]

No, because sugar isn't the whole story. The quantity of fat & fiber affects how your blood handles sugar. Fruit is typically a low-fat, high-fiber, high-sugar food. The less fiber you have, the more likely sugar is to spike your blood sugar levels. The more fat you have, the more it interferes with glucose transport into your muscles (aka insulin resistance). So if you're eating high-sugar, low-fat, high-fiber foods like fruit, you're generally OK. On the extreme side, if you have diabetes, then you primarily need to control your carb intake. Here's an interesting video that is worth watching to the end:

Your post was good, but your linked video... Not so much.

For me, she's unwatchable. Irritating and slow to get to the point. I couldn't last 5 minutes, even skipping ahead she wasn't making much headway.

If there is useful specific info in there, point it out, because she just seemed be doing a slow buildup for another round of demonize the carbs.

I think it's fair to say there has been success reversing pre-diabetes with many dietary interventions. The recommended diet unfortunately probably looks bad compared to everything.
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/plant-based-diets-for-diabetes/

One of biggest factors with reversing type 2 diabetes is simply cutting back calories in a huge way, which most dietary interventions do. Bariatric surgery usually reverses it as well, as does fasting...

 

[CalebRockeT]

But in a world where we have evidence that even Extra Virgin Olive Oil causes your arteries to clamp down and has been associated with increased arterial plaques in animal studies. There is no way in hell I would go on any high fat Keto diet.

I've noticed your posts about oils in the past, and in my attempts to research it a bit I've been unable to find any articles or data that sound like what you're describing - just a lot of "links to cancer when reusing heated vegetable oils for cooking." If it's not too much trouble, could you please link me to something with more information? Thanks you.

 

[Kaido]

Your post was good, but your linked video... Not so much.

For me, she's unwatchable. Irritating and slow to get to the point. I couldn't last 5 minutes, even skipping ahead she wasn't making much headway.

If there is useful specific info in there, point it out, because she just seemed be doing a slow buildup for another round of demonize the carbs.

I think it's fair to say there has been success reversing pre-diabetes with many dietary interventions. The recommended diet unfortunately probably looks bad compared to everything.
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/plant-based-diets-for-diabetes/

One of biggest factors with reversing type 2 diabetes is simply cutting back calories in a huge way, which most dietary interventions do. Bariatric surgery usually reverses it as well, as does fasting...

I thought the video was great, but you have to watch it for its informational content, not for entertainment, as she's a doctor giving a medical speech and is not an entertainer. Unfortunately, medical stuff isn't typically very exciting to watch, but if you're interested in learning more about how to manage Type II diabetes, that video is a goldmine of information. If you prefer text, check out the article below, and also note that this is the latest research on what actually works based on testing & results. This part is the most interesting to me: “The general recommendations are to tell patients with type 2 to consume 40-65g of carbohydrate per meal, plus more at snacks. We are essentially recommending that they eat exactly what’s causing their problem":

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blog/201...hallberg-on-how-to-reverse-type-two-diabetes/

If you want a TL;DR, aside from the quote above, I'd follow that up with: “Low-carb is not zero carb and it is not high protein. My patients eat fat, and a lot of it. Fat is the only macronutrient that is going to keep our blood glucose and insulin levels low.” FWIW, her clinic is pretty much the leader in Type II diabetes management & reversal (note: not "cure", because that would imply that it can't come back). They just released the results of their 5-year clinical trial a few days ago:

https://blog.virtahealth.com/improving-cardiovascular-disease-risk-factors-virta-treatment/

The Virta Health team is thrilled to announce peer-reviewed cardiovascular outcomes from our ongoing, 5-year clinical trial. For patients living with #type2diabetes, the Virta Treatment significantly improved 22 of 26 cardiovascular disease risk factors, including blood pressure and inflammation, while removing antihypertensive medications. Along with the 60% type 2 diabetes reversal rates, these outcomes are an incredible win for the millions suffering from T2D and cardiovascular disease.

Most people just want to take a pill to deal with their medical problems because change is hard. In the case of Type II, that "pill" is insulin units (note that I'm not hating on people who have it & who use it, and that not nearly 100% of people will respond successfully to this course of action - and as a side note, I'm interested in this stuff because I have low blood sugar & am always interested in how nutrition relates to the management of my body's energy & health), and for many people, that can be reduced or eliminated through dietary changes. One of my friends just got diagnosed with Type II. He's two months into his diagnosis, still weighs over 300 pounds, and still refuses to change his diet. Change is hard; quick-fixes are easy. Medicine is easy (again, if it's your ONLY choice, that's fine, but if you can manage it through a lifestyle change with better results & not having to be dependent on taking pay-for medicine with side effects for the rest of your life, why wouldn't you?). That, and the leading cause of death in America is heart disease. The latest information says that heart disease is 90% preventable:

http://www.switzer.com.au/the-experts/ross-walker/heart-disease-is-it-reversible/

There's a lot to be said about how diet affects heart disease, especially in managing it, but that's a topic for a different thread, haha.

 

[PeterScott]

I've noticed your posts about oils in the past, and in my attempts to research it a bit I've been unable to find any articles or data that sound like what you're describing - just a lot of "links to cancer when reusing heated vegetable oils for cooking." If it's not too much trouble, could you please link me to something with more information? Thanks you.

Endothelial function impairment appears to be similar in all oils tested. AFAIK all oils do this. They significantly shut down the arteries ability to dilate for hours.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17174226

More Polyunsaturated fats still results in more progression of arterial lesions(inlcuding Oleic Acid) monosaturated:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2407875

 

[PeterScott]

I thought the video was great, but you have to watch it for its informational content, not for entertainment, as she's a doctor giving a medical speech and is not an entertainer. Unfortunately, medical stuff isn't typically very exciting to watch, but if you're interested in learning more about how to manage Type II diabetes, that video is a goldmine of information. If you prefer text, check out the article below, and also note that this is the latest research on what actually works based on testing & results. This part is the most interesting to me: “The general recommendations are to tell patients with type 2 to consume 40-65g of carbohydrate per meal, plus more at snacks. We are essentially recommending that they eat exactly what’s causing their problem":

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blog/201...hallberg-on-how-to-reverse-type-two-diabetes/

If you want a TL;DR, aside from the quote above, I'd follow that up with: “Low-carb is not zero carb and it is not high protein. My patients eat fat, and a lot of it. Fat is the only macronutrient that is going to keep our blood glucose and insulin levels low.” FWIW, her clinic is pretty much the leader in Type II diabetes management & reversal (note: not "cure", because that would imply that it can't come back). They just released the results of their 5-year clinical trial a few days ago:

https://blog.virtahealth.com/improving-cardiovascular-disease-risk-factors-virta-treatment/


Most people just want to take a pill to deal with their medical problems because change is hard. In the case of Type II, that "pill" is insulin units (note that I'm not hating on people who have it & who use it, and that not nearly 100% of people will respond successfully to this course of action - and as a side note, I'm interested in this stuff because I have low blood sugar & am always interested in how nutrition relates to the management of my body's energy & health), and for many people, that can be reduced or eliminated through dietary changes. One of my friends just got diagnosed with Type II. He's two months into his diagnosis, still weighs over 300 pounds, and still refuses to change his diet. Change is hard; quick-fixes are easy. Medicine is easy (again, if it's your ONLY choice, that's fine, but if you can manage it through a lifestyle change with better results & not having to be dependent on taking pay-for medicine with side effects for the rest of your life, why wouldn't you?). That, and the leading cause of death in America is heart disease. The latest information says that heart disease is 90% preventable:

http://www.switzer.com.au/the-experts/ross-walker/heart-disease-is-it-reversible/

There's a lot to be said about how diet affects heart disease, especially in managing it, but that's a topic for a different thread, haha.

IOW, exactly as I indicated. It's another, carbs are the devil, eat lots of fat mantra. Glad I didn't waste anymore time.

I like how you utterly ignore where I pointed out that Type 2 Diabetes, has also been reversed with low fat plant based diets as well, and bariatric surgery for that matter. Really almost any intervention that cuts calories. But sure, increasing dietary fat is the savior.

 

[Kaido]

I've noticed your posts about oils in the past, and in my attempts to research it a bit I've been unable to find any articles or data that sound like what you're describing - just a lot of "links to cancer when reusing heated vegetable oils for cooking." If it's not too much trouble, could you please link me to something with more information? Thanks you.

Processed vegetable oils is a pretty interesting topic to read about:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ng-dean-ornish-says-about-nutrition-is-wrong/

...the USDA explicitly states that most of our increase in consumption of added fats has been due to the growing use of vegetable oils and related products.

...

...the average American’s adult’s intake of 33 percent of calories from fat. (An adult who consumes two tablespoons of olive oil in, say, a portion of salad dressing has already exceeded getting 10 percent of his day’s calories from fat if he’s eating 2,000 calories daily.)

Some interesting reading & a video on olive oil:

https://www.forksoverknives.com/why-olive-oil-isnt-a-health-food/

And on coconut oil:

https://www.forksoverknives.com/is-coconut-oil-healthy-or-hazardous/#gs.IDmbcRE

Both of which are advertised to be "healthy". A bit more introductory reading on the idea that even "good" oils aren't all that they are cracked up to be:

http://www.plantplate.com/Guide/Detail?GuideID=1009

It's kind of like sugar from fruit vs. sugar from soda...the fruit couples sugar with low-fat & high-fiber, whereas the soda is just straight-up, direct-inject liquid sugar, haha. Same with oils:

Vegetable oils are liquid fats that have been extracted from whole plant foods. Olives, sunflower seeds and corn are all examples of whole foods; the fat contained in them are part of a whole package that also includes fibre, amino acids, vitamins and minerals. When you extract the oil, you leave behind the vast majority of these nutrients, and what remains is a very concentrated source of fat and calories with very few health benefits.

Does that mean they are evil, or that you shouldn't have them? I mean, I drink soda on a regular basis & I still get a Whopper probably once a week. I don't live on it, but I think you can pretty much handle anything in moderation, you know? But I also think it's good to be aware of the actual impact of food on our bodies, so that we can make more intelligent choices about what we eat & drink. Also, see this hilarious article:

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/04/mcdonalds-salad-has-more-calories-than-big-mac.html

 

[Mayne]

on day 9 of the chili I made. I really need to learn proportions. Some mornings have been scary but I i'm still ahead of the game so far.

 

[Kaido]

IOW, exactly as I expected. It's another, carbs are the devil, eat lots of fat mantra. Glad I didn't waste anymore time.

I like how you utterly ignore where I pointed out that Type 2 Diabetes, has also been reversed with low fat plant based diets as well, and bariatric surgery for that matter. You know almost any intervention.

I didn't disagree with you; my discussion point was simply on that TED Talk in particular. This is the latest, leading research on how food affects Type II diabetes. Our collective knowledge of nutrition is continually evolving; the latest clinical research says that limiting carbs has a huge impact on people with Type II diabetes. Plant-based diets are also excellent ways to manage Type II diabetes, as is surgery, as is medicine, such as insulin. There are many paths to the same outcome, but I do think it's worth suspending our own personal worldviews in order to listen to what the latest studies are saying. Thirty years ago, cigarettes weren't "bad", but we know better now. Ten years ago, trans-fats weren't "bad", but we have new information on that now. We have strong lobbies that suppress information because they want to either sell us their products, which can have negative impacts on our bodies, or want to sell us their medicinal solutions, when lifestyle changes can give us better results in many cases. Check this video out, for example, especially the part about the sugar industry:

 

[Kaido]

on day 9 of the chili I made. I really need to learn proportions. Some mornings have been scary but I i'm still ahead of the game so far.

It usually takes a few weeks for your body to adjust to dietary changes, and part of that is your stomach essentially shrinking or growing to match the quantity of food you eat at each meal. I did the "one meal a day" thing for about a year simply because I had a crazy work schedule (and this was before the convenience that was Soylent) and it was pretty uncomfortable for a few weeks, but then your body adapts & you're fine. My brother's previous trainer ate 9 meals a day. The dude looked like an action figure, but he also had to wake up at midnight to eat his last meal, haha. Same deal with Thanksgiving...most of us over-eat & feel super bloated and pass out after because we're not used to eating that much food in one shot, haha.

 

[PeterScott]

I didn't disagree with you; my discussion point was simply on that TED Talk in particular. This is the latest, leading research on how food affects Type II diabetes.

The Keto fad is in full swing and I was already aware that some doctors have gone that route to treat diabetic patients. So another pro keto video about diabetes treatment doesn't really add anything new from my perspective.

Show me Keto diet reversing heart disease like whole food plant based diets do, and you will have my interest.

I think all this back and forth is great for confusing everyone about what is healthy.

There is no confusion about one thing: Eating plant based whole foods is healthy.

Eating plant based whole foods consisting of a mix of fruits/vegetables/legumes has no question marks to worry about the impacts of higher fat on artery health, or animal proteins as cancer drivers, or the whole mess that is processed foods. It's the only dietary pattern to show actual heart disease reversal.

Basically there are no contraindications and question marks, for Plant based whole foods, like there is for Paleo/Keto/(insert fad diet here).