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East Coast gasoline shortage?

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Noticed the prices jumped a fair amount here in Boston. I complained to myself while I filled up, but I don't care too much since I get gas once a month now (work from home).

I didn't notice this over the past week or so (Boston Metro area). it did jump up to 3.93 a couple weeks back, and then the ridiculous station is at 4.09, but the one I usually fill up at is 3.85, no change for the past 5 days or so.

It won't break the bank for commuting, but I certainly hope that it doesn't keep going up since it'll keep me at home more from the tentative road trips.
 
drop the price of gas by 2 dollars and they we would use more gas, thus keep money flowing into these schmuck's pockets.
 
sounds like too much regulation that prevents them from modernizing the refineries

http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/10/news/economy/refineries-gas-prices/

Where in the link was there any mention about regulations? Refining is a dirty part of the gas industry so it makes sense to have tight regulations. To me the issue is one of profit. Less refineries means tighter supply means higher profits and demand is quite inelastic since consumers will likely suck up the higher prices (until prices go up to unaffordable ranges).
 
Where in the link was there any mention about regulations? Refining is a dirty part of the gas industry so it makes sense to have tight regulations. To me the issue is one of profit. Less refineries means tighter supply means higher profits and demand is quite inelastic since consumers will likely suck up the higher prices (until prices go up to unaffordable ranges).

What part of refining is dirty?
 
What part of refining is dirty?

Separation towers, its when the dirt and debris is separated from the raw oil. The trays have to be cleaned and the debris has to go somewhere. Its not like you are going to take tons of rocks covered with oil and dump them in the local landfill.

Heat exchangers get clogged up and have to be cleaned, hydroblasted and or replaced.

The water from the hydroblaster is treated as hazardous material and has to be disposed of properlly.

Coke, a byproduct is a fine powder that blows in the wind.

Insulation taken off pipes and towers has to be disposed of.


If the Industry was Nationalized this would not happen.

What would not happen? Parts would not last 30 years? Or you would repair parts before repairs were needed?

I do not know how many times I saw parts come in for repairs that were 20, 30+ years old. All they needed was the gasket surface welded up, machined and sent back.
 
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It's also gas 'change-over' season, when the storage terminals have to run the 'winter blend' fuel out of the storage tanks, clean the tanks, and pipe in the 'summer blend' fuel. There is about a 3-4 week window that gas supply is pretty hit-or-miss. The retail locations also have to turn their tanks over for the changes.

Besides the refinery problems, there is also the pipeline issue... pipeline capacity is at 100% and if there is a single hiccup, it affects the entire schedule with no way to 'catch up.'
 
eco-KOOK regulations have shut down the refineries.

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Back around 1989 or 1990 a heat exchanger shop I worked at received an exchanger from Citgo in Lake Charles that was in need of repairs.

While that unit was shut down for service, Citgo was losing an estimated $100,000 an hour. And that was when gas was around $1 - $1.25 a gallon. It todays money, your probably looking at around $500,000 an hour.

The whole time the exchanger was in the shop for repairs a Citgo representative was present and watching to progress of the work.

After the unit is up and running, its only brought down when it is in need of serious repairs.

5 years passes, 10 years pass, 15 years,,,, there reaches a point when the unit is outdated by new technology. The unit can reach an end of life where its more expensive repair then it is to demolish and rebuild.

The gasoline units and or whole refineries that are closing along the east coast, how old are they? Is it going to cost more to refurbish the unit with up to date parts then what the unit/refinery is worth?

When you say "refinery", you are talking about an area that encompasses and lot of different units. Each unit can possibly refine a different product. When someone says a refinery is being closed, is it the "whole" refinery, or just a unit inside the refinery.

Closing a low profit unit is no big deal. The unit will be demolished, and possibly rebuilt in a few years.

The refinery could be building a whole new unit right next to the old one. As soon as the old unit is shut down, the new unit is brought online.
 
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