Early Vega RX performance doesn't quite deliver upon AMD's hype

[3DVagabond]

Now AMD says it won't honor the advertised pricing scheme and claims it was introductory pricing. Way to go AMD.
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3015915/amd-slammed-over-misleading-radeon-rx-vega-pricing

I haven't seen an announcement from AMD that the MSRP is going up. Can you show us? Or is this just a retailer justifying why he's jacked the price?

 

[Shmee]

Is the Inquirer even remotely legit?

 

[Puffnstuff]

I haven't seen an announcement from AMD that the MSRP is going up. Can you show us? Or is this just a retailer justifying why he's jacked the price?

That was buried in that Inquirer article but many other outlets are reporting that AMD has committed their stock to the higher priced packs forcing people who want a card to buy into those rather than providing stock for card only pricing.
http://techreport.com/news/32417/amd-weighs-in-on-radeon-rx-vega-pricing-controversy
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58802...x.html&usg=AFQjCNEWSJjvZv0naxaNHWxI-MSQAbWCSQ
http://www.techradar.com/news/amd-rx-vega-64-could-get-more-expensive-as-introductory-pricing-ends
http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3023-aib-partners-to-gn-yes-vega-price-will-change

 

[3DVagabond]

That was buried in that Inquirer article but many other outlets are reporting that AMD has committed their stock to the higher priced packs forcing people who want a card to buy into those rather than providing stock for card only pricing.
http://techreport.com/news/32417/amd-weighs-in-on-radeon-rx-vega-pricing-controversy
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/58802/amd-addresses-radeon-rx-vega-pricing-stock-issues/index.html&usg=AFQjCNEWSJjvZv0naxaNHWxI-MSQAbWCSQ
http://www.techradar.com/news/amd-rx-vega-64-could-get-more-expensive-as-introductory-pricing-ends
http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3023-aib-partners-to-gn-yes-vega-price-will-change

Radeon RX Vega64 demand continues to exceed expectations. AMD is working closely with its partners to address this demand. Our initial launch quantities included standalone Radeon RX Vega64 at SEP of $499, Radeon RX Vega64 Black Packs at SEP of $599, and Radeon RX Vega64 Aqua Packs at SEP of $699. We are working with our partners to restock all SKUs of Radeon RX Vega64 including the standalone cards and Gamer Packs over the next few weeks, and you should expect quantities of Vega to start arriving in the coming days.

Most of these revert right back to Gibbo (The same guy who started the rumor that Vega was going to be a monster (70-100 MHs) mining card). Above is the reply from AMD. Nowhere does it say they are raising the prices of any of the SKU's. Just that stocks are low and they are working to replenish.

Now, when I look at US pricing the retailers, like New Egg, have already inflated the prices $100 to $200. This is just a retailer trying to justify it. Look at OCUK's site and they're 580-600 pounds for the ones they have. And if I recall they retail for 450 pounds in Britain.

 

[Puffnstuff]

When I see shenanigans like this I'm inclined to buy from the competition so NVidia will continue to get my business.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Well okay now reviewers are collaborating amongst themselves to verify this problem and here we have additional information of just how its taking place and how its affecting consumers at the ground level.

 

[Puffnstuff]

And it continues. In my mind the gtx 1080 ti is the best high end consumer card right now.

 

[Tweak155]

You act like AMD is forcing people to buy these cards. Sorry it's worth more than you think it is, as clearly it is selling out. Guess your mind is of little concern in these types of decisions.

 

[Puffnstuff]

You act like AMD is forcing people to buy these cards. Sorry it's worth more than you think it is, as clearly it is selling out. Guess your mind is of little concern in these types of decisions.

Apparently you haven't taken the time to fully understand the mechanics of this problem and if you did and still condone it then you are a shill. I'm not brand loyal and see this as a completely unethical action.

 

[Tweak155]

Apparently you haven't taken the time to fully understand the mechanics of this problem and if you did and still condone it then you are a shill. I'm not brand loyal and see this as a completely unethical action.

How am I brand loyal? Can you read my signature?

I fully understand the market is setting the price, not statements from retailers or AMD. If people are buying it, then the price is either correct or they could even go higher. It's when no one is buying it that it is too high... economics 101.

If the initial rush are just brand loyalists then we'll see the price go down or the product will not sell or be removed from the market altogether. Anyone selling a product should be getting the max price they can for whatever they're selling, you'd be a fool to sell something for $100 when there are buyers lined up waiting to buy it for $150.

 

[IRobot23]

Did anyone do detailed research about VEGA architecture and why is slower than its predecessors?

 

[Puffnstuff]

If the initial rush are just brand loyalists then we'll see the price go down or the product will not sell or be removed from the market altogether. Anyone selling a product should be getting the max price they can for whatever they're selling, you'd be a fool to sell something for $100 when there are buyers lined up waiting to buy it for $150.

That isn't quite what is going on here. Cards that were earmarked for the packages at $100 above the stock price have been placed into product groups with monitors and other items driving up their prices beyond just tacking on the extra profit margin and this is unethical as any business student should be able to lecture you on proper business ethics.

 

[Headfoot]

Making profit is in no way unethical, and I never want to work with a "business student" who thinks so.

 

[Tweak155]

That isn't quite what is going on here. Cards that were earmarked for the packages at $100 above the stock price have been placed into product groups with monitors and other items driving up their prices beyond just tacking on the extra profit margin and this is unethical as any business student should be able to lecture you on proper business ethics.

I don't think unethical means what you think it means. A business can decide how to sell its own product and consumers can decide whether or not they want to buy it the way they are selling it / at the price point it is being sold.

It would be unethical if AMD created Vega 64 bundles and gave you a Vega 56 card without telling you instead. However, in this case, they're clearly marking the bundle with what you're getting and at what price. You're getting EXACTLY what you're paying for.

You may want to find that business student to help you out.

 

[Puffnstuff]

It's okay, AMD just ensured that I will continue to buy NVidia.

 

[IRobot23]

It's okay, AMD just ensured that I will continue to buy NVidia.

Mhh, why RX 56 is really good buy for that money... 7nm next year and basically everyone will forget about ...

 

[npoe1]

Should we expect the performance numbers to improve by the end of the year?

 

[maddie]

And it continues. In my mind the gtx 1080 ti is the best high end consumer card right now.

That dude is a real joker.

Finally folks, we have it explained at last. SEP $499 & SEP $399 means these are prices for September and now all the lemmings marching off to the sea. Lord help me, but Idiocracy looks more and more prophetic every day.

Around the 3:20 mark,

 

[Khanan]

Well IMO that hype was PR, and as far as I can see (in shops) it's working out for them. At least now. Obv. don't know about long term.

Talking about performance, I would like to wait for better drivers and more features of the GPU used, but for now it's not quite a good deal I'd say.

 

[Sonikku]

NV didn't get half the flack for their "Founders Edition" Tax.