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early 60's Super stockers

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Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
corvette is not really a muscle car

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!


oh man, thanks for that. I really needed that laugh. As much as I love all muscle cars, the corvette has a special place in my heart. Has got to be one of the fastest, smallest, muscle cars from the 50s still in production today.
 
Hehe... on a side note this reminds me of a discussion I had with a guy one time at a car show. He was complaining about how all of the cars from the mid to late 40s and early 50s were so overbuilt & drove like tanks. I just had to chuckle at him and ask "Care to guess what the factories then were making before they made cars?"
 
Originally posted by: ryan256
Hehe... on a side note this reminds me of a discussion I had with a guy one time at a car show. He was complaining about how all of the cars from the mid to late 40s and early 50s were so overbuilt & drove like tanks. I just had to chuckle at him and ask "Care to guess what the factories then were making before they made cars?"

hmmm, a tank?
 
captnkirk, I can't get your 64 plymouth link to work

yep corbra, vipers , vetts etc aren't really muscle cars, there sports cars 2 seaters
 
I love the super-stock re-makes that are floating around.

Some of the coolest pictures around are the ones that they have been placing on the last page of Car Craft for awhile. They are all vintage shots and some of them are really cool because they were taken before you had to have helmets and before they had concrete walls on the side of the track.
 
Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
captnkirk, I can't get your 64 plymouth link to work

yep corbra, vipers , vetts etc aren't really muscle cars, there sports cars 2 seaters

so in order for a car to be considered a muscle car it requires it to have a be large, more than 2 seats and have a very beefy engine?
 
CaptnKirk,nice looking car did yours have 413 or 426? single 4 barrel or max wedge

I don't think many if any were sold in 64 with a 413, engine swap?

a ex girl freind had a 64 sport fury, 361 2 BBl, automatic floor shifter
 
Car was an early '64 Savoy with the 413 Wedge & dual Carter AFB's.
Was an AFX until the 426's came out and the original owner pulled the aluminum hood & front fenders and ran it as a SS/AA - honest 10.90 @ 112 MPH car back then.
Art Carr Typewriter push-putton 3 speed TorqueFlite. No block outs, it instantally could shift into any gear, even reverse.

When I got it as 3rd owner it still had an altered wheelbase (front wheels 2" too far back & rear wheel's 3" too far forward) Leaded trunk must have weighed ovewr 100 Lbs. & had a support rod to hold it up.

I drove it on the street, and it could break any part at any time . . at will.
If you punched it on the street, it was just as likely to go sideways from the torque as it was to go straight.

Scari Sombischi.
 
Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
capt'n sounds like a cool car, I bet you still wish it was parked in your garage


Always regret not still having it. Wish it was back.
Had the long dual quad crossram intake and linkage, never did get that back on.
 
what's funny is muscle car review magzine did a road test, a old stock 1970 440 magnum dodge charger vs the new 2005 hemi charger

the old charger had a set cheap factory original sized tires with original rims, the new charger had the super high tech , high dollar top of line 18 or 19 tires..................the old charger could keep up the new one in the salom course, amazing, well if you put the big new tires and lightweight weight rims on the old, then what?
 
Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
interesting, it sound like you had one of the earlier long cross ram engines that looked like this:
61 long ram torque tubes

instead of that later max wedge cross rams like this:
max wedge


pics from:
cross ram
maxwedge.com


The vehicle was a very early 1964 Max Wedge Ramcharger model, build for factory sponsered competition in Southern California and released just at the introduction of the 1964 model year.
That would have been in mid September of 1963. The 413 Max-Wedge was also the power for the Dodge motor homes back then.
It had the oversize valves and the long ram tubes had been taken off to make it more 'streetable' - Even though I drove it on the street, I think that was a mistake - it should have been restricted to strip use, as it was a real nightmare to street-put with.

They had a big flaw back then - when accelerating in 1st & 2nd just before they reached the shift point, the check valves in the oil pump had a tendency to hang, which caused a presssure surge in the filter cartridge - and the filter case would be ripped open, and you lost all oil pressure - at high RPM, and the engine ran dry right then. Expensive.

Still wish I had it back though.
 
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