EA: Origin won't copy Steam 75% off sales

[Borealis7]

i derped =/

 

[EDUSAN]

the only way to make the industry from not having big sales is to lower the full retail price of the games.
as simple as that

if games will continue costing $60 at launch, even if they suck, its just common sense to wait for a more suitable price.
release the game at $30 and we will buy it at 50% instead of 75% lol

 

[cmdrdredd]

Well I buy many games at $60 cause they are worth that to me. I don't buy every game that releases of course so the expense is not that great over a few months time.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I'm not you. I can't support shitty corporations. That would put a nagging sensation in the back of my skull that I wouldn't easily shake off. Also, I'm not putting game-breaking spyware on my rig.

How exactly is it game breaking? I click on bf3 it opens. Wow that just broke the game.

I don't personally care what you buy or don't buy but I don't think you are right to say that your opinion and personal boycott of EA makes you some kind of boy scout and everyone who buys Bf3 because it is a good game is somehow evil or stupid.

We are all free to spend our money where we want. I am just telling you my side. I bet you have shopped at Walmart too haven't you? You cannot always avoid our so called "evil corporations". I enjoy games enough that I am willing to pay full price for what i deem as quality. I don't think EA really gives a crap if some guy thinks they have to boycott. They sold millions anyway.

 

[-Slacker-]

How exactly is it game breaking? I click on bf3 it opens. Wow that just broke the game.

You'll have to ask the scores of unsatisfied costumers trashing the client; I deleted it not long after I had to spend hours getting Crysis 2's hires and dx11 patches to install, so I may not have the most comprehensive experience.

I don't personally care what you buy or don't buy but I don't think you are right to say that your opinion and personal boycott of EA makes you some kind of boy scout and everyone who buys Bf3 because it is a good game is somehow evil or stupid.

Neither do I, but it's pretty clear that you wanted me to elaborate on my EA games boycott, and so I did. And if you knew you were going to be intellectually insecure about someone's honest (and asked for) opinion, then you should have ended your cheap shot at disgruntled gamers of a post with "Don't reply with anything challenging; you may lie instead" or something. I'm sure I would have obliged.

We are all free to spend our money where we want.

...Yeah...So...?

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[gothamhunter]

Well, I did want this game. Been waiting for it for uh... several years.
I guess EA thinks getting zero sales is better than getting $40 for it.
Not gonna bite.


EDIT: LMAO! wow... just wow.
Double edit: Ok, this is the deluxe version. Regular is $59 just realized. Still, I'm done paying $60 on games. I've wasted too much money on shit this year.

I think the bigger "LMAO" here is asking full price for a SimCity game.

 

[DaveSimmons]

We are all free to spend our money where we want. I am just telling you my side. I bet you have shopped at Walmart too haven't you? You cannot always avoid our so called "evil corporations". I enjoy games enough that I am willing to pay full price for what i deem as quality. I don't think EA really gives a crap if some guy thinks they have to boycott. They sold millions anyway.

I agree, if you really want to play a game and don't mind paying $60 for a digital copy then have fun.

But as I said earlier their "no big sales" policy is going to keep me from trying new games, and keeping them off of Steam is going to make it even harder to convince me to buy others. Bat's comment that we'll all give in to the new shiny despite our comments here just isn't true, at least for me. I can hold my breath a loooong time

Maybe if EA rethinks their pricing and offers ME3 at a really good price on Origin then someday I might even jump through the hoops to get it there. Maybe.

 

[ViviTheMage]

I have a feeling that some Games and their Publishers/creators get a nice buttload of Cash when these Sales happen. A lot of people will pick up games on these Sales that they likely wouldn't even consider buying normally. I'm sure there are some people who purposely put off buying New Titles and instead wait for a Steam Sale, some might even just be cheap bastards who could easily afford Full Price, others might be to broke to justify Full Price, but I suspect those who were not even interested is a fair chunk of Steam Sale sales.

Recently I have snagged a couple games on Steam I normally would never have considered. 1 was approx 80% off, the other approx 90%. 1 of them I would have been furious to pay full price for as it was really poorly made, the other was a Budget title to begin with (regular price $15)that I normally wouldn't have given a second look at. The Developers didn't get much from those Sales, but at least they got those Sales.

I honestly bet it puts the torrenting crowd to purchase it as well...thus dipping into a different group of people who never would or have paid before.

Someone sees the numbers as justifiable.... its like making 10 people pay $100 a game, or 100 people paying $10 for the game....the sales are clearly working.

 

[Martimus]

I agree, if you really want to play a game and don't mind paying $60 for a digital copy then have fun.

But as I said earlier their "no big sales" policy is going to keep me from trying new games, and keeping them off of Steam is going to make it even harder to convince me to buy others. Bat's comment that we'll all give in to the new shiny despite our comments here just isn't true, at least for me. I can hold my breath a loooong time

Maybe if EA rethinks their pricing and offers ME3 at a really good price on Origin then someday I might even jump through the hoops to get it there. Maybe.

If ME3 is $5 then I would consider purchasing it with the Origin requirement, but that is far from a certainty. The only reason I use Steam so much is the sales have enticed me to purchase games with that resource draining DRM on in the background. Without the heavy sales, I can't imagine what will make me install Origin on my computer to.even see how it affects my system. Based on my experience with DA:O, I expect that it won't be the best experience.

If ME3 were $20 and did not require Origin, then I would buy it tomorrow. As it is, I don't think that even dropping it to $5 would entice me to buy it on Origin however.

 

[Phokus]

9 out 10 people in this thread will buy EA's next big budget, high profile, Origin exclusive title.

Not at full price i won't. I waited until Mass Effect 3 was $30. Fuck EA.

Edit: And I think the LAST EA game i bought was Bad Company 2, so yeah, fuck EA. The ONLY 2 games i have on origin are BC2 and ME3. My steam library is bursting at the seams with all the games i've bought from them.

 

[cmdrdredd]

You'll have to ask the scores of unsatisfied costumers trashing the client; I deleted it not long after I had to spend hours getting Crysis 2's hires and dx11 patches to install, so I may not have the most comprehensive experience.

Neither do I, but it's pretty clear that you wanted me to elaborate on my EA games boycott, and so I did. And if you knew you were going to be intellectually insecure about someone's honest (and asked for) opinion, then you should have ended your cheap shot at disgruntled gamers of a post with "Don't reply with anything challenging; you may lie instead" or something. I'm sure I would have obliged.

...Yeah...So...?

[...]

Now you're just being a d-bag. I never said you lied anyway. Its not a cheap shot at all but your high and mighty attitude is unappreciated.

I agree with DaveSimmons and think what he said is fair and open minded. A lot of people it seems only use the services for sales while I see it as a convenient way to buy a game and not bother going to the store. I like sales too but as I said I dint feel that $60 is that much for some titles.

 

[Edge1]

"We want to be Nordstroms". Well I want to own a lot of cool games. See, two can play that game. Won't be buying anything from Origin after reading this crap.

 

[CountZero]

I don't get the want to be Nordstroms comment. Nordstroms offers different more expensive products but they still have clearance sales, deep discount sales and even an entire store (Rack) dedicated to super deep sales. In the areas they offer the same products as Target (see Keurig) they are priced the same and also offer sales.

There isn't a store equivalent to what they want to be which is a store that sells the same thing for more with no enticing sales ever. The reason for that is obvious, outside of boutiques which are selling on exclusivity, it makes no sense to operate like that.

 

[mindcycle]

This many not be completely Origin related, but anyway.. I got BF3 from a graphics card purchase so I though i'd give it a shot. It "included" Origin, which I had yet to install up to that point. I was kind of excited to play through the campaign but didn't really have any interest in MP. So after installing the game, origin, and a bunch of patches, I was ready to play.. Right? Wrong..

You have to wait for the browser part to load, origin to load, then finally you can click single player campaign. That's about 3-4 mins maybe, then you wait for the game to load, which is another 3-4 mins on average. My computer isn't the newest, but it's no slouch either and those just seem like really long load times to me. That on top of every time I would play the game when I had some spare time (which was generally once a week) it would find some new origin or game update.. I don't give a shit about that, I just want to play the "single player" game!

I ended up getting a crack to bypass the Orgin and browser shit but I was honestly fed up at that point and probably only played 2-3 more times. Suffice to say, the fact that EA is going "more" toward this always online thing with their games, plus this retarded PR statement, I think i'll end up selling my next free DL code. Those are the only EA games I "buy" anymore anyway, lol

 

[Veliko]

Yes, the whole Battlelog browser-Origin-BF3 link is absurd. I can't change my multiplayer controls, loadouts or anything at all without actually joining a server first.

 

[reallyscrued]

I like sales too but as I said I dint feel that $60 is that much for some titles.

That's a curious statement. I've always wondered...why $60? Could you expand on why you think $60 isn't too much? Would $65 be your breaking point? How about $70? At what point would you go 'OH HAYL NO' and just not buy the game?

What is it about that price point that makes it so appealing to set EVERY game at that level? It seems like it's just based upon tradition. Aside from some really small studios or B-titles, it doesn't matter if the game took $10 Mil to make or $100 Mil to make, it will still release at $59.99 (reminds me of the movies).

 

[kami]

I didn't need more reasons to not purchase games on Origin but EA is eager to give me more reasons.

I typically only buy big titles (Skyrim, Diablo 3, etc.) at full price. Most of my purchases are done at deep discount steam sales. I'm sure the game companies would rather get my 75% off purchase rather than no purchase. Except for EA of course.

 

[-Slacker-]

Now you're just being a d-bag.

If you want people to be polite, don't qualify their dissatisfaction with something as "nerd rage".

I never said you lied anyway.

I didn't say you said I lied either.

Its not a cheap shot at all but your high and mighty attitude is unappreciated.

I already told you, if you wanted me to explain my position in a less challenging and more comforting way, you could have said so before hand. Or better yet, you could have simply not addressed my foirst post at all - that way you wouldn't have gotten your feewings huwt.

 

[maniacalpha1-1]

If you want people to be polite, don't qualify their dissatisfaction with something as "nerd rage".

This. We get it that some people either don't care, for various reasons, or simply don't wish to participate, but that doesn't make our complaints invalid.

If someone handed me $10,000 to buy every game I could possibly want, EA would still be still be bringing game quality down in franchises like Dragon Age, disposable income to spend $60 on it won't solve that problem.

Oh, wait...$10,000 might not buy that many games if you consider microtransactions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6-u8OIJTE

There's a point in the video where the EA CEO admits he spent "$5000 calendar year to date" on microtransactions.

 

[Red Hawk]

Well. I use Origin for Mass Effect 3 and had migrated my other BioWare/EA games from Steam to Origin (Origin allows you to download the games as long as you have the CD code, and for those games you don't need Origin running in the background). I don't have anything against Origin as a service, and would have considered buying more third-party games on Origin if the price was right, but this is basically EA proclaiming "Nope, we're not going to compete". I guess Steam will remain my go-to service for downloading third-party games at great prices.

 

[Via]

I wonder what Steam's revenue breakdown is.

For example - I just bought Chaser for $1.25. Since there are tens of millions of Steam accounts out there I don't think it's out of the question that somewhere between 250,000 and a million steam users dropped some spare change on it.

Let's assume 500,000. That would mean that steam earned $625000 from the Chaser sale.

How much goes to the publisher, and how much does valve keep? Is it 50/50? Even at 50/50 I would have to assume that a sudden influx of over $300,000 would be a welcome thing for an almost ten year old game for any publisher.

 

[Gordon Freemen]

It's always the naive, lazy, undereducated and YOUNG that proclaim there's nothing wrong with EA games policies and practices. To many people ignorance is bliss I presume.

 

[Dankk]

How much goes to the publisher, and how much does valve keep? Is it 50/50? Even at 50/50 I would have to assume that a sudden influx of over $300,000 would be a welcome thing for an almost ten year old game for any publisher.

Valve keeps those numbers behind tight lips, and I suspect the earnings vary on a per-publisher, per-developer, or even per-game basis.

The only way to know would be to ask the actual publisher what they make, and even then they probably couldn't tell you because they're under NDA.

 

[Martimus]

It's always the naive, lazy, undereducated and YOUNG that proclaim there's nothing wrong with EA games policies and practices. To many people ignorance is bliss I presume.

If that is the case, then I wish I agreed with EA's policies. I wish that I was young.

 

[Gordon Freemen]

If that is the case, then I wish I agreed with EA's policies. I wish that I was young.

If you clicked OK on the EA games and or Origins EULA then you agreed to get ass pumped by EA games unwittingly or otherwise and without any lube.