e8400 dud help

[peterg60]

hi all new to site hope somebody can help me i think i got the dud e8400 out there lol

cant get it stable at 4ghz with less than 1.4 vcore in cpu-z

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can boot into windows but orthos test will stop after 7 mins


Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio .......................: [ 9]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio...................: +0.0
CPU Frequency .........................: 4GHz

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU[ Host Clock Control.................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 450Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ...........: 100

C.I.A.2 ...............................: [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive........................: 800mV
PCI Express Clock Drive................: 900mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps

DRAM Performance Control
Performance[/URL] Enhance....................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch.................: Auto
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ................: 801
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time.......................: 5
tRCD ..................................: 5
tRP'...................................: 5
tRAS...................................: 15

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...................................: auto
tWTR...................................: auto
tWR....................................: auto
tRFC...................................: auto
tRTP...................................: auto
Command Rate (CMD) ....................: auto

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ......................: [Auto]

Channel A
Static tRead Value.....................: 7--10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment..................: [Auto]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment..................: [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: [Auto]

Trd2rd(Different Rank).................: [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank).................: [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank).................: [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).................: [Auto]

Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
DDR Write Training.....................: [Auto]

Channel B
Static tRead Value.....................: 7---10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment..................: [Auto]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment..................: [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: [Auto]

Trd2rd(Different Rank).................: [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank).................: [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank).................: [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).................: [Auto]

Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
DDR Write Training.....................: [Auto]

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type...........................: [Manual]

CPU---------------------Normal-----------Current

Load Line Calibration..................: [Disabled]
CPU Vcore...............1.30000V.......: 1.42500V--showing 1.392v in cpu-z
CPU Termination.........1.200V.........: 1.200V
CPU PLL.................1.500V.........: 1.500V
CPU Reference...........0.760V.........: [Auto]

MCH/ICH
MCH Core................1.100V.........: 1.3200v
MCH Reference...........0.760V.........: [Auto]
MCH/DRAM Reference......0.900V.........: [Auto]
ICH I/O.................1.500V.........: 1.500V
ICH Core................1.100V.........: 1.100V

DRAM
DRAM Voltage............1.800V.........: 2.100V
DRAM Termination........0.900V.........: [Auto]
Channel A Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]
Channel B Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3..................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect..............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support...................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support.................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ............: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function......................: [Disabled]
]Virtualization Technology[/URL]..............: [Enabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect .............: [Disabled]

can any one suggest how i can get stable thanks

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 8500C5 1066MHz Dual Channe


- Power supply : Vdd: 1.8V ± 0.1V, Vddq: 1.8V ± 0.1V
- Double-data-rate architecture; two data transfers per clock cycle
- Bidirectional data strobe(DQS)
- Differential clock inputs(CK and CK)
- DLL aligns DQ and DQS transition with CK transition
- Programmable Read latency 5 (clock)
- Burst Length: 4, 8 (Interleave/nibble sequential)
- Programmable Burst type (sequential & interleave)
- Timing Reference: 5-5-5-18 at +1.8V / 5-5-5-15 at +2.2V
- Edge aligned data output, center aligned data input
- Auto & Self refresh, 7.8us refresh interval (8K/64ms refresh)
- Serial presence detect with EEPROM
- High Performance Heat Spreader
- PCB : Height 1.180? (30.00mm), double sided compone

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Hi and welcome.

First of all, leave all that advanced sh*t to defaults. I didn't read all that useless info. What concerns an overclock is the vcore, the northbridge voltages, pll, & the Termination.... raise the termination to atleast 1.40v try 1.36 MCH, enable load line calibration

 

[peterg60]

hi i havent got load line calibration
in bios this board got some bad vdroop

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Quite possibly the board. Is that an E0 stepping 8400?

 

[peterg60]

yes it is a eo stepping i was gunna buy new Asus P5Q pro board but dont want to spend 100 pound if its my e8400 only brought this board and chip 4 weeks ago

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Latest bios?

 

[peterg60]

yep f8

 

[Zap]

Hello peterg60, and welcome to Anandtech Forums.

Now, with a reasonable boost in voltage you can overclock about a full GHz... tell me again why you think it is a dud?

 

[Shmee]

1.4 does seem a bit high for a wolfsdale. Especially if you have it set to 1.425 in bios. Also, you may want to raise FSB VTT a bit as mentioned, it is needed for higher FSB's. That may help a lot.

 

[faxon]

dude your board has load line calibration. read your own first post, you listed it as disabled lol

 

[peterg60]

dude your board has load line calibration. read your own first post, you listed it as disabled lol


this board ant got load line calibration in bios

raist fsb vol and nb no good wont boot to windows with less voltage that stated an eo shouldnt that much voltage for sure

 

[Markfw]

I have 2 different E8400 (ES chips) Neither will do 4 ghz stable. 3.98 is the best.

 

[peterg60]

on what voltage

 

[Itchrelief]

Originally posted by: peterg60
dude your board has load line calibration. read your own first post, you listed it as disabled lol


this board ant got load line calibration in bios

raist fsb vol and nb no good wont boot to windows with less voltage that stated an eo shouldnt that much voltage for sure

The line just above CPU Vcore? Is it greyed out or something?

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: peterg60
on what voltage

If you are asking me, 1.4 vcore is the most I am willing to go. Even at that, the temps start to jump quickly. You can kill a chip with vcore along, and for a 45 nm chip, 1.4 is a LOT when they start at 1.2 or less, usually 1.05-1.1

 

[peterg60]

i have returned the chip for direct replacment my took 1.4254 in bios for 3.80ghz and thats a eo steping chip and that was just to get in windows upped fsb vol and nb dant help i got a feeling it could be my ep45 ds3p there is no llc and vdroop is very bad but could be a dud

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: peterg60
i have returned the chip for direct replacment my took 1.4254 in bios for 3.80ghz and thats a eo steping chip and that was just to get in windows upped fsb vol and nb dant help i got a feeling it could be my ep45 ds3p there is no llc and vdroop is very bad but could be a dud

Umm......OK.

 

[peterg60]

so willpost bk whats new chip like if its same im just gonna order Asus P5Q board

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: peterg60
i have returned the chip for direct replacment my took 1.4254 in bios for 3.80ghz and thats a eo steping chip and that was just to get in windows upped fsb vol and nb dant help i got a feeling it could be my ep45 ds3p there is no llc and vdroop is very bad but could be a dud

No respect here. The chip was just fine. You're a douche for returning a high quality CPU and passing along the cost to all of us honest consumers here. If my DS3L (a lower quality board in the same lineup) can push a QUAD to 457FSB (it has during a speed run) just fine then your dual isn't stressing it whatsoever.

Nice job.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: peterg60
i have returned the chip for direct replacment my took 1.4254 in bios for 3.80ghz and thats a eo steping chip and that was just to get in windows upped fsb vol and nb dant help i got a feeling it could be my ep45 ds3p there is no llc and vdroop is very bad but could be a dud

No respect here. The chip was just fine. You're a douche for returning a high quality CPU and passing along the cost to all of us honest consumers here. If my DS3L (a lower quality board in the same lineup) can push a QUAD to 457FSB (it has during a speed run) just fine then your dual isn't stressing it whatsoever.

Nice job.

+1. Just what we need in a bad economy, ripping companies off....Just think of this, the next time you get laid off.

 

[waffleironhead]

Id say this user deserves a permaban. Retail fraud is no joke.

.02

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: peterg60
i have returned the chip for direct replacment my took 1.4254 in bios for 3.80ghz and thats a eo steping chip and that was just to get in windows upped fsb vol and nb dant help i got a feeling it could be my ep45 ds3p there is no llc and vdroop is very bad but could be a dud

No respect here. The chip was just fine. You're a douche for returning a high quality CPU and passing along the cost to all of us honest consumers here. If my DS3L (a lower quality board in the same lineup) can push a QUAD to 457FSB (it has during a speed run) just fine then your dual isn't stressing it whatsoever.

Nice job.

+1. Just what we need in a bad economy, ripping companies off....Just think of this, the next time you get laid off.

Why aren't we banning for stuff like this? We do for software pirating.

 

[Zensal]

That is stupid. Everyone can't get the best chips all the time. I had an Opty 165 that wouldn't go over 2.4. Just gave me an excuse to upgrade sooner.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: peterg60
i have returned the chip for direct replacment my took 1.4254 in bios for 3.80ghz and thats a eo steping chip and that was just to get in windows upped fsb vol and nb dant help i got a feeling it could be my ep45 ds3p there is no llc and vdroop is very bad but could be a dud

No respect here. The chip was just fine. You're a douche for returning a high quality CPU and passing along the cost to all of us honest consumers here. If my DS3L (a lower quality board in the same lineup) can push a QUAD to 457FSB (it has during a speed run) just fine then your dual isn't stressing it whatsoever.

Nice job.

+1. Just what we need in a bad economy, ripping companies off....Just think of this, the next time you get laid off.

Why aren't we banning for stuff like this? We do for software pirating.

I have checked with higher authority. While I will post a warning below to all, it is not a bannable offense, like software pirating.

ALL. RETURNING A CPU WHERE IS IT NOT DEFECTIVE, JUST BECAUSE IT WON'T OVERCLOCK AS WELL AS YOU WANT IS FRAUD. WE HERE AT ANANDTECH DO NOT SUPPORT THIS BEHAVIOUR. THE SAME CAN BE SAID ABOUT BURNING OUT A CPU WHILE OVERCLOCKING and RMA'ing it.

Note: running a cpu overclocked on a motherboard should not void the motherboard warranty as far as I know, you are not overclocking the motherboard, just the cpu.

 

[soccerballtux]

There's another user that RMA'd his board after cooking it (because he OC'd the northbridge (not cpu-nb) too far).
Why is it not bannable? Are we not predominantly a hardware site, not a software site? If anything the penalties for stealing hardware ought to be greater.

I wonder what the Anandtech hardware advertisers (Crucial, AMD, Intel, etc) would think about that and what they'd think if several incensed forum posters emailed them about such a policy.....