E7200 VID?

[Cheex]

Hey guys.


I just installed my E7200. :thumbsup:
I have good news and bad news.

Bad news is that I'll have to reseat my Tuniq Tower 120. Core 0 is about 10*C hotter than Core 1. I can understand why though because I did have a little snag during mounting but I thought it would have been okay.

Good news is my VID on this chip is......drum roll please......(drumroll)....... 1.1750V

Tell me what you think and tell me how high you think I can get this baby!!

 

[mancunian]

Hey Cheex, I'd guess about 3.6-3.8Ghz.

And your Tuniq may well be mounted fine, the temp sensors on these Wolfdales are borked. If those temps of yours are idle temps, you may find they come closer together at load, which means it's probably mounted ok.

If they're load temps, perhap a remount will help.


Good luck with the OC

 

[Tempered81]

cheex i hope you get 3.8G+!

 

[Drsignguy]

Cheex, My E7200 has a VID of 1.1125v and I have it running @ 3.6 with ease. Temps at full load around 50c so you should at least get to this OC without a problem.

 

[Cheex]

Thanks guys. Well I don't think it is a case of a borked sensor because the temps both went up.
The temps were at idle about 35*C and 47*C. The 35*C sounds about right.
At load, it was like 46*C and 56*C. The load temperature of 46*C is impressive. I'm liking 45nm already.

Anyway I just finished remounting so, I'll post back in a few minutes with the new temps.

I am SERIOUSLY hoping that all is well now.

**crosses fingers**

 

[the unknown]

As a point of reference, my e7200 has some borked sensors, core0 never goes below 40C and I've never seen my core1 go below 30C (even when its very cold in the morning). However, at load, both rise and are equal once they get above 40 and 50C, with a minor 1-2 degree discrepancy.

Yours had varying load temps, so that reseating was probably a good idea.

 

[Cheex]

Well it seems as if the reseating didn't change a damn thing.

The temperature difference between cores is still 12*C.
I honestly don't think that the cores aren't running close to each other in temperature so I think it is in fact borked sensors.

The lower of the two temperatures seems the more correct figure based on the temps i was getting from my E6300.
Anyway to be on the safe side, I've decided to let Core Temp only show me the higher one and I will use that as my mark.


Now on to the overclocking....

It seems as if I will be able to get 3.8GHz stable rather easy, as it booted there without a problem with 1.4V (in BIOS) although i might be able to use less.
I BSOD'd at 4GHz (422x9.5). Increased the voltage to 1.425V and booted into Windows no problem.

However, it crashes both OCCT and Orthos almost immediately. So it is NOT stable at 4GHz (right now).

I will back down both the speed and the voltage though and go through and test it thoroughly.

Anyway, the top speed isn't what is bugging me...its the whole temperature thing....
Is it a bad sensor??
Is it a bad CPU???

What the hell is it??

 

[Jyve]

I have roughly a 10c difference in my sensors as well.

 

[Cheex]

So am I to take it that the CPU itself is actually okay??

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: Cheex
So am I to take it that the CPU itself is actually okay??

I would have to say yes, it's ok. Just watch your voltage input. Remember, it is a 45nm chip so 1.4+ in bios and with vdroop, your borderlined. But with that Tuniq, you should be ok.

 

[Cheex]

Can I trust to use the lower temperature value? I know it is the correct temperature. I know this based on the temperatures I was getting with my E6300. Being 45nm and using the same 1.4V the lower of the two temperatures are about 2-3 degrees C lower than the E6300 which would seem correct.

 

[jrichrds]

Originally posted by: Cheex
Good news is my VID on this chip is......drum roll please......(drumroll)....... 1.1750V

I've gone through about half a dozen retail-boxed E7200 and the lowest I've gotten is 1.05v and the highest I've gotten is 1.175v.

Originally posted by: jaredpace
yeah possibly - if it's a very recent pack date (last 2 months), it's likely to be an E0, if it's packed before mid to late july it's 99% chance a C0

I thought all the retail-boxed E7200 were M0 while the C0 (E8x00 rejects) were found amongst bare OEM chips.

Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
If it weren't a wolfdale, I'd go so far as to remove the IHS.

If you have the M0 stepping, the IHS pops right off.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: jrichrds

Originally posted by: Cheex
Good news is my VID on this chip is......drum roll please......(drumroll)....... 1.1750V

I've gone through about half a dozen retail-boxed E7200 and the lowest I've gotten is 1.05v and the highest I've gotten is 1.175v.

I thought that was good seeing as how many people were getting 1.2V+.

:roll:

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: jrichrds

Originally posted by: jaredpace
yeah possibly - if it's a very recent pack date (last 2 months), it's likely to be an E0, if it's packed before mid to late july it's 99% chance a C0

I thought all the retail-boxed E7200 were M0 while the C0 (E8x00 rejects) were found amongst bare OEM chips.

We were talking about E8400s. If you read Cbolt67's post before mine you can see:

Originally posted by: cbolt67
I'll see if I can get an answer to another question here. If I opt for an E8400 would the "pack dat" on the box help me get an EO stepping?

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: Cheex
Can I trust to use the lower temperature value? I know it is the correct temperature. I know this based on the temperatures I was getting with my E6300. Being 45nm and using the same 1.4V the lower of the two temperatures are about 2-3 degrees C lower than the E6300 which would seem correct.

Can I get some insight on this from you guys please?

 

[Arglebargle]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: jrichrds

Originally posted by: Cheex
Good news is my VID on this chip is......drum roll please......(drumroll)....... 1.1750V

I've gone through about half a dozen retail-boxed E7200 and the lowest I've gotten is 1.05v and the highest I've gotten is 1.175v.

I thought that was good seeing as how many people were getting 1.2V+.

:roll:

I picked up a Frye's special, and it's vid was 1.25v. Right now it's overclock is stuck at around 3.2ghz for Prime95 stability. Not that I am great at OCing....but it barely beats out my old 2160 now.

 

[Jyve]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: Cheex
Can I trust to use the lower temperature value? I know it is the correct temperature. I know this based on the temperatures I was getting with my E6300. Being 45nm and using the same 1.4V the lower of the two temperatures are about 2-3 degrees C lower than the E6300 which would seem correct.

Can I get some insight on this from you guys please?

I think you'll be alright...looks like you have sufficient cooling.

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: Cheex
Can I trust to use the lower temperature value? I know it is the correct temperature. I know this based on the temperatures I was getting with my E6300. Being 45nm and using the same 1.4V the lower of the two temperatures are about 2-3 degrees C lower than the E6300 which would seem correct.

Can I get some insight on this from you guys please?

I would trust the Higher as it is better to sure. Seems to me that your temps are fairly correct as all chips differ.

 

[Cheex]

Well, the higher temperature, under OCCT load, peaks is the mid 70s (either 75C or 76C, i don't remember) and the lower one (which it think is actually correct) peaks about 68C but stays consistently around 65C. All that is at 3.8GHz (400x9.5) with 1.4V in the BIOS.

I did the Auto test (1hr, Mix) and that passed, STABLE.
I did the Custom test (2hr, Mix) and that passed, STABLE.

I want 4GHz.....am I being greedy??

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: Cheex
Well, the higher temperature, under OCCT load, peaks is the mid 70s (either 75C or 76C, i don't remember) and the lower one (which it think is actually correct) peaks about 68C but stays consistently around 65C. All that is at 3.8GHz (400x9.5) with 1.4V in the BIOS.

I did the Auto test (1hr, Mix) and that passed, STABLE.
I did the Custom test (2hr, Mix) and that passed, STABLE.

I want 4GHz.....am I being greedy??

I would stick with 3.8 and see how she reacts. Under normal operation, your temps should drop a bit. As an example, OCCT is ramping that chip up and your temps are up there. Put a F@H SMP client and a GPU client on it and your temps wont reach as high as OCCT has been. So, take a looksee and watch it for a while and see what she does?


EDIT: as for Greedy, Nah, OCD, yes