E6600 temps on p5wdh

Geekwannab

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These are my temps running E6600(stock cooling, no AS5).Everything was left auto in the BIOS and am running it without any case(ambient around 20C)

Idle
Asus probe-39C
Speed fan-38C
Everest Home- 38C
Core temp - 53C:Q:confused:

Idle image

Load(after 15 mins of arthos)
Asus probe-53C
Speed fan-51C
Everest Home- 50C
Core temp - 67C:Q:(
Load image

I just ordered a Ninja and the P180B. Have any of you exprienced temps like this
 

talaash

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Originally posted by: Geekwannab
These are my temps running E6600(stock cooling, no AS5).Everything was left auto in the BIOS and am running it without any case(ambient around 20C)

Idle
Asus probe-39C
Speed fan-38C
Everest Home- 38C
Core temp - 53C:Q:confused:

Idle image

Load(after 15 mins of arthos)
Asus probe-53C
Speed fan-51C
Everest Home- 50C
Core temp - 67C:Q:(
Load image

I just ordered a Ninja and the P180B. Have any of you exprienced temps like this


Are these temperatures with no settings changed? Or are they your OC temps?

If you have not changed anything and are getting these readings I would firstly disable Q-Fan in the Bios, see how that affects things. Secondly it would be helpful if you uploaded details of your full setup so we can help you further. It could be lots of things causing this to happen, case, cooling, heatsink not properly mounted etc etc.


 

Conky

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How many times is it going to have to be posted that the ASUS boards are recording unusually high temps with the new Conroes, despite not actually be that hot?

:roll:
 

OcHungry

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some of you need to face the fact. These core 2's run hot no matter how you go about it, or not believing it, accepting it, or admitting it. below is an Article on the laptop version of these core 2 duo's by PC magazine telling people about the real deal Anandtech forgot to mention.
I think the Intel's guerilla marketing has paid off and many of you have been had by Anandtech, and all the review sites that deliberately avoided any mention of temp in any of their reviews. There were whole lots of these reviews (here, there). You should have been curious of why non of these review sites had written a single line or a short sentence regarding conroe's Temp.
So go ahead and act like an Ostirage hide your head in the sand, or be creative on your reasoning/excuses why these Temp are wrong and insist that core 2's Aint really as hot as they seam. But sooner or later a few objective minded Users will shoot a laser beam down the crouches of these CPU?s seeking the truth. Until tehn, You will not admit, accept, or believe it. but what choices do you have when that laser hard on has finished penetrating these core 2's and reported back the diggings. I bet It?s gonna be ?Hot?.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2009199,00.asp
 
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I beg to differ Ochungry. My e6400 is oc'ed to 2.88GHz (stock is 2.13) and it has never gone above 42C at full load (dual prime95, games, 3dmark0X).

One other point on the heat issue, what you consider hot is unlikely to be what the manufacturers and other users, not to mention the equipments tolerances, consider hot. as an example, the bios in my GFX card will only run the fan at 100% when the temp goes over 80C, is that too hot?

 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: celticbattlepants
One other point on the heat issue, what you consider hot is unlikely to be what the manufacturers and other users, not to mention the equipments tolerances, consider hot. as an example, the bios in my GFX card will only run the fan at 100% when the temp goes over 80C, is that too hot?

Good point, but comparing GPU and CPU temperatures is irrelevant. GPU's are spec'ed to run MUCH hotter because of the limited cooling solutions available and the noise factor.

As well, there are no 65nm GPU pieces. :D

 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: OcHungry
some of you need to face the fact. These core 2's run hot no matter how you go about it, or not believing it, accepting it, or admitting it. below is an Article on the laptop version of these core 2 duo's by PC magazine telling people about the real deal Anandtech forgot to mention.

While I believe you're trolling and probably an AMD employee, there is some validity to the general thought process that Conroe's are extremely low power, cool running chips. I get a fairly good laugh each day when people say "OMG my 6600 is running 70C!" and then they mention they're using 1.45+ volts. Well, what did you expect?

On the mobile side of things (which is what PC Mag has been focusing on) Merom is gonna be awesome. It does use a bit more juice and run a little hotter than Yonah but the performance is awe-inspiring. (Also note that heat/power measurements in the mobile space are far more important, as you can't slap a Tuniq Tower on your laptop :p)
 

n7

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Do you get a fairly good laugh over my E6400 running @ 48-50C idle @ stock or below stock vcore? :roll:

Geekwannab, there seems to be an issue with the P5W DH & P5B Deluxe mobos regarding temp reading i think.

In your case though, all your temps make sense, except for Core Temp, which is very likely inaccurate in your case.

The Core 2 Duo isn't a very cool running CPU, contrary to what we were led to believe.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: n7
Do you get a fairly good laugh over my E6400 running @ 48-50C idle @ stock or below stock vcore? :roll:

No, I believe your ASUS board has issues. Common idle temps are in the low to mid 30's.

The Core 2 Duo isn't a very cool running CPU, contrary to what we were led to believe.

Baloney. At stock speeds and voltages Conroe's DO run cool. It's when the geeks start feeding them excess voltage and trying to attain a 100% overclock that they heat up and people start crying foul.

Now excuse me while I try a 1.7V test. I'll be back to bitch about the 85C core temps in a few minutes.
 

Geekwannab

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Originally posted by: talaash
Originally posted by: Geekwannab
These are my temps running E6600(stock cooling, no AS5).Everything was left auto in the BIOS and am running it without any case(ambient around 20C)

Idle
Asus probe-39C
Speed fan-38C
Everest Home- 38C
Core temp - 53C:Q:confused:

Idle image

Load(after 15 mins of arthos)
Asus probe-53C
Speed fan-51C
Everest Home- 50C
Core temp - 67C:Q:(
Load image

I just ordered a Ninja and the P180B. Have any of you exprienced temps like this


Are these temperatures with no settings changed? Or are they your OC temps?

If you have not changed anything and are getting these readings I would firstly disable Q-Fan in the Bios, see how that affects things. Secondly it would be helpful if you uploaded details of your full setup so we can help you further. It could be lots of things causing this to happen, case, cooling, heatsink not properly mounted etc etc.

Everything is stock NO OC. Also I thought they would be running cooler as I am running it without the case. I am asking this because I wanted to OC a little bit with the stock HSF, alas am afraid to do so now. Ah well, so much for the stock HSF.I hope the Ninja comes in real soon and I will apply some AS5 and mount the Ninja and post back with temps.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Geekwannab
Everything is stock NO OC. Also I thought they would be running cooler as I am running it without the case. I am asking this because I wanted to OC a little bit with the stock HSG, alas am afraid to do so now. Ah well, so much for the stock HSF.I hope the Ninja comes in real soon and I will apply some AS5 and mount the Ninja and post back with temps.

I've seen a lot of people who have failed to mount the stock HS/F properly.

The Ninja is a far better cooler but if mounted wrong or if the contact is bad between the IHS and the Ninja, you may have problems.

Throw a rice-sized dab of AS on the core, set your HS/F down, and verify full and complete contact before you continue. If the contact is bad, you're going to need to lap either the HS/F base or the IHS of the chip.
 

mcmikemc

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That sucks man. My 6600 is around 28C idle and 42 load. That is stock voltages all around , an overclock of 366x8 and a Ninja.
 

Geekwannab

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Originally posted by: mcmikemc
That sucks man. My 6600 is around 28C idle and 42 load. That is stock voltages all around , an overclock of 366x8 and a Ninja.


Are these temps reported by core temp. Also how did you drop the multi on the E6600. Are you using P5B with the recently released BIOS. If you are using the P5WDH, please let me know what BIOS you are using
 

Geekwannab

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: n7
Do you get a fairly good laugh over my E6400 running @ 48-50C idle @ stock or below stock vcore? :roll:

No, I believe your ASUS board has issues. Common idle temps are in the low to mid 30's.

The Core 2 Duo isn't a very cool running CPU, contrary to what we were led to believe.

Baloney. At stock speeds and voltages Conroe's DO run cool. It's when the geeks start feeding them excess voltage and trying to attain a 100% overclock that they heat up and people start crying foul.

Now excuse me while I try a 1.7V test. I'll be back to bitch about the 85C core temps in a few minutes.


lol, by the time you try to type and post a message , POOF there goes ur proc fried.:p
 

Geekwannab

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I got the tracking # from preformance-pcs for my Ninja. Woot:D. Can't wait to see the temps with this bad boy mounted with some AS5.
 

mcmikemc

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Originally posted by: Geekwannab
Originally posted by: mcmikemc
That sucks man. My 6600 is around 28C idle and 42 load. That is stock voltages all around , an overclock of 366x8 and a Ninja.


Are these temps reported by core temp. Also how did you drop the multi on the E6600. Are you using P5B with the recently released BIOS. If you are using the P5WDH, please let me know what BIOS you are using


They are reported to me using Easy Tune 5. I am using a DS3 and there is an option to set the multi from 6-9 for my E6600. I heard that the DS3 let you change the multi while the Asus board did not (when I bought it) which is one of the reasons I went with the DS3.
 

Geekwannab

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Geekwannab
Everything is stock NO OC. Also I thought they would be running cooler as I am running it without the case. I am asking this because I wanted to OC a little bit with the stock HSG, alas am afraid to do so now. Ah well, so much for the stock HSF.I hope the Ninja comes in real soon and I will apply some AS5 and mount the Ninja and post back with temps.

I've seen a lot of people who have failed to mount the stock HS/F properly.

The Ninja is a far better cooler but if mounted wrong or if the contact is bad between the IHS and the Ninja, you may have problems.

Throw a rice-sized dab of AS on the core, set your HS/F down, and verify full and complete contact before you continue. If the contact is bad, you're going to need to lap either the HS/F base or the IHS of the chip.

If I wanna put AS5 with the stock HSF, I got to remove the "Crapy GOO" off the stock HSF and then apply AS5. I am gonna get the Ninja real soon anyway. So I think I will wait for the Ninja to get here before I start using my new build for gaming and putting it on load. I have to go back to my ACER8204 for my gaming until I get this issue resolved. Ah well.

 

Geekwannab

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Ok I have undervolted my conroe to 1.3V and disabled the CPU Q fan controller in the bios. No I am getting reasonably better readings

IDLE
ASUS probe,speedfan and everest all report 34C
Core temp-47C

Will post the Load temp after running half an hour of orthos
 

Geekwannab

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Ok. It got interesting when I undervolted my conroe. After I undervolted my CPU to 1.3V in the BIOS, windows booted up fine.But when I ran SP2004/Orthos it failed in the first 5 seconds. So, I set the Vcore back to AUTO and booted up . Again everything was fine until I tried running SP2004. Nope, no go, it erroed out again.I was like WTF. Then I realised that I had changed the RAM timings and frequency to DDR2-800 with 4-4-4-12 timings which is what my RAM is rated at. I then went to Crosair's site and found this.. It's rated @ DDR2-800 alright but the voltage required for that timing(4-4-4-12)was 2.1V. So I went into the BIOS and set the VRAM to 2.1V and its running fine now. The VCore still is @ auto and my idle temps was like 35C from all of speedfan,everest and Asus probe and 50C in coretemp.
Load temps are like 45 in asus probe and 64C in core temp.
 

n7

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You are trying to run the 2:3 divider?

As in, FSB @ 266, & RAM @ 400?

If so, you might actually increase chipset/FSB vcore, as it seems most mobos don't like running non 1:1 dividers terribly well...
 

Geekwannab

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Originally posted by: n7
You are trying to run the 2:3 divider?

As in, FSB @ 266, & RAM @ 400?

If so, you might actually increase chipset/FSB vcore, as it seems most mobos don't like running non 1:1 dividers terribly well...

Thanks for the info. Will try it. Anyway, after dropping everything to auto and SPD timing to "Enable", SP2004 is running fine now(no errors until now which is after half an hour of SP2004) with my RAM doing DDR2-666 5-5-5-15 on the 4:5 divider.
 

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It seems everyone gets higher readings from Core Temp over PCprobe, myself included. Core Temp measures the individuals cores doesn't it? What does PCprobe measure, the speader?
 

renozi

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Geekwannab enable Intel Speed Step and set the power option in windows to Portable/Laptop. E6700 @stock, idle 31C, load 45C in everest. And this is on a hot day!
My ram does 4-4-4-8 right now @800 with 2.0v, but could do it with auto volts too...I just wanted to be safe and run 2.0v like spec'd.