E6300 vs 4600+?

[BassBomb]

I will NOT overclock.

Which CPU would overall be best bang for buck? I always wanted a C2D but... 4600+ looks like a great deal (cept for power consumption).

Did not choose a E4300 because the price is only 15$ less than E6300

Total System Cost (Mobo + CPU) CDN Dollars

C2D Setup:
E6300 = $230
P5 (P965) Delux = $210
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TOTAL = $440 x 1.14% = $502

AM2 Setup:
4600+ (65w) = $155
Decent Asus Mobo = $165
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TOTAL = $320 x 1.14% = $365

Almost $150CDN price difference for the setups. Now which has more bang for the buck?

I used AT's E4300 review for my performance comparisons.


EDIT : Socket 775 Boards - http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProdList&cmd=pl&id=MB.157

P5B Deluxe or P5B-E look good to me. Actually P5B-E looks great now that I see it. Before there was only a P5B w/o Firewire and less SATA which made me not like it.

 

[RamIt]

If your not overclocking there is no reason to spend a preminum on those motherboards.
You should be able to find a motherboard for either of those systems for well under $100 that will be very stable at stock speeds.

It might help if you listed your intended usage of the computer for someone to give you some reliable feedback.

 

[BassBomb]

Well I would like a quality motherboard, and would not want to lose any features already present on my own board

There is a Asus P965 board non deluxe for $175 that would be a better deal than the one I selected -- But I am trying to compare the boards with similar features

I will only buy an Asus board that is one requirement... I have been solid with Asus in my last 3 builds

I use my pc mainly for Gaming + 3D Rendering

 

[BassBomb]

BUMP THAT

 

[Cheex]

Gaming & 3D Rendering, in that case get the E6300 build. At stock I think they are about equal and IF you do decide to overclock at some point the E6300 will scale a lot better than the 4600+.

In addition to that, having an Intel platform will allow you to get on the Quad-Core bandwagon when the price drops. That will work wonders for your 3D Rendering and also will be cheaper than the AMD 4x4 solution.

 

[cubeless]

can u order from ewiz? 4600+ $115

and ditto above about mobo... u can find a no oc mobo with those features for a much more reasonable price... like the msi in the newegg combo deal...

way higher bang for buck than c2d at this moment in time...

 

[BassBomb]

Thanks for the suggestion, but ewiz is from the States, and even if it does ship it won't beat out the prices my local retailer gives me

Price + Shipping + Border Taxes

VS

Price + Half Tax

I am in Canada btw.

I will only buy Asus motherboards as stated above. I do not upgrade often, so by the time im ready to move to Quad Core, there will probably be a new socket (happened to my 939 Futureproof thoughts)

 

[cubeless]

if u really want to go quad core, then just double the perf of your 939 with a 3800x2 and hang out... if your local guy can meet $120 that newegg is selling the oem 3800x2 for it would be a great choice whilst the rumored price drops on the intel stuff are coming in...

with an x2 your current system does have a lot of future in it...

 

[BassBomb]

Originally posted by: cubeless
if u really want to go quad core, then just double the perf of your 939 with a 3800x2 and hang out... if your local guy can meet $120 that newegg is selling the oem 3800x2 for it would be a great choice whilst the rumored price drops on the intel stuff are coming in...

with an x2 your current system does have a lot of future in it...

I do not want to go quad-core.

I will not drop an X2 into my board, because A. They are no longer good priced in Canada B. I want a new video card, jump to PCI-E C. I want more RAM

With all those togheter in price, why not jump the entire set, rather than stick with 939?

 

[imported_Truenofan]

well you'd have to buy new ram as well then for a c2d rig, and for rendering, if im not mistaken you need quite a large sum for it, 2gb or better would be your best bet, ddr800 budget ram is another 100 at least for decent quality, for high quality go above 150. and thats not a suggestion, you have to for c2d. you stick with a x2 you can keep your ddr, and go to pci-2 with a 939 socket. if you want to go c2d and keep ddr, you would have to go with the asrock dual775 vista....and that would let you keep your ram, and video card for the time being, but it would take a slight hit on performance.

 

[BassBomb]

Okay well, im going to make it clearer:


75% Gaming 25% Rendering (just for fun occasionally)

I am not sticking with 939

I am not buying a board that is not Asus


Now, no one has answered my question. 4600+ VS E6300, which one has better bang for buck?

 

[Cheex]

Well...My vote would be for the E6300.

 

[cubeless]

look at the chart... they are about tied... 4600 will be right in middle of 3800 and 5000...

the amd wins on cost at stock...

but the c2d is soooo easy to oc u will not be able to resist... and that will make it a better deal...

cpus

 

[n7]

Bang for buck winner = X2 4600+

 

[bruceyg]

Originally posted by: n7
Bang for buck winner = X2 4600+

agree, but no need to buy an expensive board, Asus 570 board is around 100 bucks

Edit: the best bang or bucks is brisbane core 3600+ & Tforce550, combo costs $140 AR from newegg. Don't know how much in Canada.

 

[imported_Truenofan]

yeah, for the price, the amd's are better, but if you ever plan on overclocking, as a last ditch effort to get more performance, the c2d is the way to go. either way he is forced into buying new ram as well.

 

[bruceyg]

even consider overclocking, I still think the 3600+/Tforce550 is better, oced to 2.8Ghz at stock Vcore runs cool only 25C idle, honestly I didn't feel the big difference with my another machine E4300 at 3.1Ghz, both are pretty fast machine to me. The e4300+p965board costed me almost double. For gamers, save $140 to upgrade your video card to 8800Gts, much better choice.

 

[kmmatney]

If your not going to overclock, then I would say the AMD setup is better. Neither will be the limiting factor for gaming, and with the AMD setup you have more money for the video card, which needs some serious updating to not completely bottleneck your new cpu.

 

[BassBomb]

Video card is out of this equation... Either way I am going to get a video card, but I am still waiting to decide on that section until there is more competition NA MEAN?

3600+ wouldn't be a big enough upgrade for me

 

[bruceyg]

compared with your 3200+ it's huge difference, the most important is that 3600+ is dual core processor, no problem of playing H264 movies, your 3200+ probably can't handle it.

download them and test your machine, when playing deep blue, CPU usage for dual core 3600+ is more than 55%


H264 Deep Blue
H264 Kingkong

 

[BassBomb]

It will be a significant difference, but it is not a substantial enough increase that im looknig for.

Thanks for everyones help!