E6300 @ 46C,... is that too hot?

[Iceboie]

I have finished building my Conroe (Allendale) system a week now and from the readings from CoreTemp, it seems like my E6300 is too hot since it's show up as around 46C currently. I also checked my CPU temperature in the BIOS screen and it's also showing the CPU at around 45-46C as well.

This is the mobo combo from Fry's sale last week, E6300/ECS P4M800Pro v2. I using a Sycthe Ninja Plus with a Yate Loon 120mm fan attached and I used the thermal paste that came with the Ninja. Also, I have installed two 512MB DDR RAM, (one Kingston 512MB DDR 3200 and one Samsung 512MB DDR 3200 = 1GB.

I though my E6300's temperature should be around the 30C range or less, not in the 40C which my CPU is.

Is that too hot for an E6300? Will replace the Ninja's included thermal paste for the Arctic Silver 5 help to reduce the temperature and if yes, how much will be the difference?

And no, I did not OC anything yet.

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[MrWizzard]

Do you have any reason to think that might be too hot? Other than other people claim their cpus run at 30C OC under full load...:roll:

Look at the white paper that came with the processor. If you lost it then, look online for Core 2 Duo specs and operating temperatures. I think that will put your worry to rest.

 

[chimera1982]

First of all, your temps are ABSOLUTELY fine...

What's your ambient temperature? If it's in the low-mid 70s (F) or so, then you're fine...Also do you know what your temp is under load? Run some orthos on it and let us know how hot it gets...

I'm using an E6300 with the Scythe Ninja Plus and AS5 and I'm OC'd to 2.8GHz and I idle around 48C and get up to around 58-60C when under load...

All in all, your temps sound pretty normal. Try OCing it some and see how high your temps get...If they're getting too much above 60c under load, I'd reseat the heatsink and use some AS5.

 

[sanitydc]

seems hot to me.

 

[blurp]

Originally posted by: chimera1982
First of all, your temps are ABSOLUTELY fine...

What's your ambient temperature? If it's in the low-mid 70s (F) or so, then you're fine...Also do you know what your temp is under load? Run some orthos on it and let us know how hot it gets...

I'm using an E6300 with the Scythe Ninja Plus and AS5 and I'm OC'd to 2.8GHz and I idle around 48C and get up to around 58-60C when under load...

All in all, your temps sound pretty normal. Try OCing it some and see how high your temps get...If they're getting too much above 60c under load, I'd reseat the heatsink and use some AS5.

I agree with you. I reach 60-62 on load with Orthos while monitoring with Coretemp. Idle is : Core #1 = 51; Core #2 : = 46

 

[chimera1982]

I agree with you. I reach 60-62 on load with Orthos while monitoring with Coretemp. Idle is : Core #1 = 51; Core #2 : = 46

/Agree blurp...most people have these temps while overclocked...

seems hot to me.

Dunno where you get your info from Sanitydc, but those are perfectly normal temps...That's 3 of us just in this thread getting the same temps and 2 of us with the same cooler and of the 6 core2 systems I've built, all with e6300 or 6400s and all with scythe ninja plus coolers, i get those same temps...

 

[Skeeedunt]

C2D temperatures are all over the map. Same temps from core as from BIOS? Weird. I don't know anymore. Seems slightly high for a good HSF and CPU w/ no OC, but probably nothing to worry about.

 

[Raduque]

I'm running an E6300 OCed to 2.8 and i idle at 51c, load at 62 (dualprime95) in Core Temp. Stock Intel retail HSF, but I used some white thermal paste. Going to pick up some silver stuff this weekend and re-seat the HSF.

Oh yea, my BIOS and other temp programs are between 5-7C less then Core Temp.

 

[Iceboie]

My E6300 had decreased around about four degrees now after I reapplied and added more of the included thermal paste on the CPU and thus my E6300's temperature is now about around 42C to 43C.

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Still not the temperature range that I was expected to have but I guess it's good enough for now.


My C2D CPU is an OEM version but does it really matter? In general, does the Retail versions produced less heat than the OEM versions?

 

[sanitydc]

he's not overclocked?


and we are?



and we have the same temps???



yeah.... we slap an extra 1.1ghz on and get the same temps as him running stock... come on now...

 

[Iceboie]

Originally posted by: Iceboie
My E6300 had decreased around about four degrees now after I reapplied and added more of the included thermal paste on the CPU and thus my E6300's temperature is now about around 42C to 43C.

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Still not the temperature range that I was expected to have but I guess it's good enough for now.


My C2D CPU is an OEM version but does it really matter? In general, does the Retail versions produced less heat than the OEM versions?

The odd thing is that on my BIOS screen, the System Hardware Monitor is still showing that my CPU's temperature is around at 46C while CoreTemp is showing at around 42C.

So which readings are more accurate?

 

[Duvie]

My temps at stock with stock vcore and stock fan is getting 33c

Oc'd to 2.4ghz I get 39-40c idle and 54-56c load with dual prime with a .025 vcore boost...dont even know if it needed it though...

that is on the e6300


My e6600 hasn't been installed yet with a scythe....

 

[NoStateofMind]

I wouldn't worry, I've had my E6400 OC to 3.4Ghz Orthos 6hrs with a load of 70C in CoreTemp and 66C using Asus motherboard sensor

 

[chimera1982]

Sanitydc, I said my idle temps were around 48c...his are around 42c per his last post...Those aren't the same temperatures...

42c for a non overclocked e6300, depending on ambient room temp, is PERFECTLY NORMAL!

 

[BrownTown]

These CPUs are rated to run up to 90c, so don't freak out about those type of temps. I mean shoot, my laptop had a 1.6G Banais which runs at like 25W load and it gets up to 55c and i've never worried. MY parents computer has an old northwood and is so full of dust it got to 80c when i checked it (and cleaned the inside of the case) and has been going fine for like 5 years.

 

[b315653]

I just finished a new build. Gigabyte GA-965G-DS3, E6300. stock cooler, Patriot 5300, OCZ 700 Gamestream.
It fired right up but had cpu temps at 42C-44C from the get go (idle). Processor fan was running at 800-900 RPM. I went into BIOS and turned off the CPU Speed Control (was on Auto, went to Disable). The fan increased to 1600-1700 and the CPU temps went down to 33-34 at idle.
That's 9-10 degrees cooler. Just my expierence.

 

[River Side]

i use SpeedFan and only compare other's readings from the same software.. Idle temps for me are 47 degrees.. and load are 52 degrees.. I've overclocked to 3.3GHz

 

[Iceboie]

Originally posted by: b315653
I just finished a new build. Gigabyte GA-965G-DS3, E6300. stock cooler, Patriot 5300, OCZ 700 Gamestream.
It fired right up but had cpu temps at 42C-44C from the get go (idle). Processor fan was running at 800-900 RPM. I went into BIOS and turned off the CPU Speed Control (was on Auto, went to Disable). The fan increased to 1600-1700 and the CPU temps went down to 33-34 at idle.
That's 9-10 degrees cooler. Just my expierence.

After I disabled the Speed Fan Control from the BIOS screen, the CPU's temperature readings still stays at around 45C but however on the TempCore, it decreased to 40C.

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[996GT2]

46C is ok if your CPU is at load (in BIOS it runs near 100% btw), but if it's idling at 46C then you might want to check your heatsink or change fan options. It shouldn't damage anything though...that doesn't happen until your temps creep over 65C.

This is what my 2.8 GHz 3500+ is running at currently, with a light load on it and 70% fan speed. I know a Core 2 would run hotter, but 46C seems like a lot if it's at idle.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/996gt2/Temps.jpg

Also just for comparison, my friend's E6300@ 2.4 GHz idles at around 40C. If you're not OC'd then your temps seem a bit high...

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: 996GT2
46C is ok if your CPU is at load (in BIOS it runs near 100% btw), but if it's idling at 46C then you might want to check your heatsink or change fan options. It shouldn't damage anything though...that doesn't happen until your temps creep over 65C.

This is what my 2.8 GHz 3500+ is running at currently, with a light load on it and 70% fan speed. I know a Core 2 would run hotter, but 46C seems like a lot if it's at idle.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/996gt2/Temps.jpg

Also just for comparison, my friend's E6300@ 2.4 GHz idles at around 40C. If you're not OC'd then your temps seem a bit high...

Yes it does seem hot for stock. Not only that but you are using an AMD chip, and everyone knows Intel's chips run hotter.

So like I said earlier OP, you will be fine at that temp even though its high for stock.

 

[Iceboie]

Well, I have three Yate Loons 120mm fans (very silent and low airflow) attached to my PC case, one for intake, one on the Ninja, and one for exhaust. Since those Yate Loons have little airflow, is that the reason why my e6300's temperature is out of the norm compared to others?

Currently based on Intel Thermal Analysis Tool:
Idle: 42C
Load: 52C

For a stock temperature, I still think it's out of the norm.

Mobo: ESC P4M800Pro v2.0
CPU: E6300 OEM
HSF: Ninja Plus
Fans: 3 Yate Loons 120mm
RAM: 1G (512MB x 2) DDR 3200
Case: Mambo Thermal
Video: Integrated
PSU: Ultra X-finity 500W

 

[chimera1982]

Iceboie, what are the temperatures in the room the PC is in?

I think you're worrying WAY too much about this...42c idles/52c load is what I get when I leave my window opened and my room temps are in the 60s. Now, I live in MI, so it may be cooler here than where you live; However, when I had my PC on an upper level in the summertime, with ambient temps around 74F, my Idle was around 48c-50c and load would get up to 63c...

Also, whoever said you'll damage the processor above 65c is absolutely wrong...maybe you should go read up on Xtremeforums about some people running their conroes at 70c plus just to see how much heat they can take...

Now, you can reseat your heatsink...you can reapply AS5 if you'd like...But I still think you're gonna get low 40sC idle if your room temps are in the 70s. You MAY be able to knock it into the upper 30s. But, honestly, your processor life isn't going to be cut by running at low 40s idle/low 50s load at stock voltages. Just some thoughts.

 

[Iceboie]

Originally posted by: chimera1982
Iceboie, what are the temperatures in the room the PC is in?

I think you're worrying WAY too much about this...42c idles/52c load is what I get when I leave my window opened and my room temps are in the 60s. Now, I live in MI, so it may be cooler here than where you live; However, when I had my PC on an upper level in the summertime, with ambient temps around 74F, my Idle was around 48c-50c and load would get up to 63c...

Also, whoever said you'll damage the processor above 65c is absolutely wrong...maybe you should go read up on Xtremeforums about some people running their conroes at 70c plus just to see how much heat they can take...

Now, you can reseat your heatsink...you can reapply AS5 if you'd like...But I still think you're gonna get low 40sC idle if your room temps are in the 70s. You MAY be able to knock it into the upper 30s. But, honestly, your processor life isn't going to be cut by running at low 40s idle/low 50s load at stock voltages. Just some thoughts.

I live in TX , if it really matters, and the room temperature is always in the 70s. But anyhow, my e6300's temperature is now about around in the mid 30Cs after I enabled the Speedstep option in the BIOS to achieve the lower temperature.

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TAT:
Idle: 35C
Load: 42C

 

[Iceboie]

Current: 266 x 6 = 1596

EDIT:


If I raise the FSB (from 266 to 310) and lower the multiplier (from 7x to 6x) to maintain the same speed, will I still lose a little performance overall and the temperature will go back to in the 40Cs?

Original: 266 x 7 = 1862
New: 310 x 6 = 1860

 

[chimera1982]

You'd actually be getting better performance because your ram will then be running at a higher speed...And unless you have to raise the voltages, your temps shouldn't go up really at all.