E4300 VS X2 4400+ (in a Dell)

[zeth]

I have the choice between a Core 2 Duo E4300 or an Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (in a Dell, so no overclocking ...)

Which is the better processor?

 

[soonerproud]

They both perform about the same so in this case go for the best price.

 

[Hajpoj]

Except the intel chip runs cooler and uses less power.

 

[bryanW1995]

what temps do they run at in a dell? idle/load? how much power at idle/load does each chip use in that dell?

 

[Sunrise089]

Intel runs cooler....in a PC that isn't going to be OC'd and is under warranty, plus the AMD chip isn't exactly a space heater.

Intel uses less power....and we all know the $2 annual savings (if the OP even pays the electric bill) is totally worth it.

OP - buy from whichever company you like better. This is there rare situation where you can be brand-loyal without making a poor decision.

 

[harpoon84]

What tasks do you plan on doing on the PC? Certain applications favour each chip, since they are pretty close in overall performance it comes down to what your specific usage patterns are.

 

[zeth]

The main processor intensive use will probably be gaming.

 

[BadRobot]

When building a gaming rig and there is no overclocking I prefer AMD out of these 2 processors.

But just because I prefer doesn' t mean I have a good reason.

If i was encoding I would go with Intel.

 

[magreen]

Originally posted by: zeth
I have the choice between a Core 2 Duo E4300 or an Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (in a Dell, so no overclocking ...)

Which is the better processor?

They perform the same. But you actually can overclock the X2 4400+ in a Dell E521 if that's your system. Use ClockGen. They have a thread on here somewhere about it.

 

[lyerx]

if you want overclock,use 4300

but dell can't oc

 

[ssiu]

Just wondering if it is possible to overclock the Dell (or other "non-overclockable" big OEM machines) by doing the "266FSB pin mod" to the E4300? If yes it would run at 2.4Ghz.

(The newer Dell Inspirons use the G33 chipset, which is quite attractive for a budget machine, as G33 supports 1333FSB and future 45nm processors (if I understand correctly)).

 

[f4phantom2500]

Originally posted by: lyerx
if you want overclock,use 4300

but dell can't oc

uh, actually magreen's right man.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...ey=y&keyword1=clockgen

if you can oc an x2 in a dell (which you can, apparently) but not a c2d, i'd say go with the x2.

 

[Extelleron]

Assuming it's a Brisbane (65nm), power usage should be very similar between the E4300 and X2 4400+, with no real advantages to either. Performance will likely be very similar as well; Intel will be slightly faster in a few apps, AMD in others, in most, they will be virtually tied. I would go with the X2 4400+ because I prefer AMD over Intel, but there's no REAL reason to go for either over the other.

 

[servicemonkey]

OC the E4300 in your Dell:

http://www.techspot.com/galler...owphoto.php/photo/1887

 

[ssiu]

Originally posted by: servicemonkey
OC the E4300 in your Dell:

http://www.techspot.com/galler...owphoto.php/photo/1887

Yes that's the "266FSB pin mod"; I'm looking for confirmation that it realy works even on a Dell.

 

[zeth]

E4300 266MHz pin mod confirmed working in the Inspiron 530, using a Defogger Repair Kit I got at Autozone for $1. Glad I went with that.

I'd try the 1333mhz mod, but I'm not sure my fingers are steady enough for the precision required for that...

 

[kmmatney]

The pin mod worked with my E4400 it now defaults to 2.66 Mhz. However it didn't allow me to overlock any higher (I maxed out at 2.9 Ghz, at stock voltage). In some cases, the pin mod allows the FSB to go even higher than without the pin mod.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Main advantage of the E4300/E4400 is the ability to do the pin mod. FSB will go from 200 to 266MHz.

 

[Yongsta]

Originally posted by: zeth
E4300 266MHz pin mod confirmed working in the Inspiron 530, using a Defogger Repair Kit I got at Autozone for $1. Glad I went with that.

I'd try the 1333mhz mod, but I'm not sure my fingers are steady enough for the precision required for that...

Interesting, what pins must be connected for the 1333 mhz FSB? Would that mess up the PCI clocks? My friend has a Dell with E4300 so he could do this for his system.